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Title: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 05, 2019, 03:22:56 PM
In my view one of the big problems for the English speaking world to get more familiar with the Five Arts systems is the language.
Many of the good sources are either in Chinese or they switch to Chinese characters often in them.
Interesting example is Sweeney books for QMDJ, starting with his first book where the idea is to memorize 150+ characters that are used later in the series of books, something that I doubt we will find more then 10 western people that will attempt to do even less so will manage to actually do it.

So stuff like basic English words for the lines, branches and relations, or at least Pin Yin is vital in the understanding of these systems in my view.

One of the reasons I haven't posted links here to some of the apps is because I'm working on something else that is suppose to replace them.
During the past few years many members have asked for web version of the Gmuli apps.
While that was challenging to do back then, in the last few months I have been working on that and so far the WWG app is almost ready for use.

The question is - what do members want as a function in a Liu Yao internet app.

So far I have implemented this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sxpLKFcV/Example-WWG.png)
(can show stems and switch to the animals)
Some of the fields won't be very accurate, still aligning it.

I'm thinking of adding some stuff that we didn't have before, for example to switch to Friendly, Vulnerable etc. from the animals.
The Solar calendar will be using apparent position of the Sun instead of the Mean position in the other Gmuli apps, the idea is that in this way the traditional approach will still be there, however as it is based on the open source implementation of the SPA libraries they are supposed to be the most accurate for that giving accurecy of  +-0,003 degrees for more then 5 thousand years span. That won't be working right away, however, as it will require altitude and other stuff and I'm guessing most users probably won't be aware of that, so in the future that may be added as well, even then we will work with something like +-1min as the hour input field doesn't accept seconds.

This time it will use the apparent position as that is what is accepted(also for people that want the mean values can always use the PC one, to be fair that matters only once a month on the Solar Month change).
Again the bazi app will be with the idea to take some more alternative calculations like Stable/Unstable Pillars and stuff like that that may be missing in other calculators, but more on that when I get to the BaZi part of the apps when I plan to ask for that as well.

 I haven't added Super I Ching or the other stuff, as I don't know if ipeople need it.
So now is the time for feedback, what you would want in web version of the Gmuli WWG app?

The idea is for assignments that are shown like alternative stems/branches, or other ways of generating hexagram that the old app had and stuff like that. For the colors and the way it looks that is very subjective, so I'm just adding it in the more functional way I can come up with, with time if there is enough interest can add themes for alternative looks or something like that.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: JLim on April 06, 2019, 04:46:50 PM
Thank you for sharing your work!

Suggestions:
1. Ti & Yong -->preferably Self & Others.  I have limited time to explain now, but for Liu Yao (Wen Wang Gua), the philosophy is different than Ti & Yong (such as used in Mei Hua or Plum Blossom). 

2. Hidden line: could you put it at the leftmost column?  We need to read the hidden line together with the line of the original hexagram.  So, if there is space, I'd prefer both lines to be aligned.

3. Can you highlight the Voidness (if any) in the hexagrams?
In this example, Xu is Void so maybe use a special notation for the 6th line of the result hexagram? Something like (戌 Xu) -- using parentheses.  If you use parentheses, I would also remove the parentheses from the Six Kins, so "Child" instead of "(Child)". 

4. I would really like the option to hide irrelevant branches in the Result hexagram.  For example, I would rather not see the 4th line of the result hexagram 午Wu Fire.  The 4th line You Metal is not being overcome by 午 Wu Fire!  If the option is not chosen, then the user can see ALL branches as shown in your screenshot.

5. Move the four pillars closer to the hexagrams.  When you do that, for example, Shen (Month) would be close enough to Si Fire (6th line), which is nice because Shen-Si makes a combination.  In the current layout, Shen seems so far from Si.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 06, 2019, 05:27:53 PM
Awesome, will add it.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 06, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2019/04/06/Example-WWG.png)

Dear @Gmuli  .. hi ..

I like your works on app. You are genius on this ...
I would like to follow the above formula when casting an Hexagram...
I think nothing is so difficult to make this .. or just like this ..!!
Thanks in advance

Tientai

Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 06, 2019, 09:20:38 PM
 if you could have option with the complete symbolic star attached to it , where Astrofuge had put the table on  https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0  . Symbolic star is very useful when you really want to make deep understanding of liu yao  , but I haven't found a lot of software that show them beside some chinese one , the one that use show some of them like the most common yi ma (horse ) , peach blossom .. and also the day solver. This star is particularly useful when want to find a solution to a problem (because transform bad luck into good luck ) . Other star have each their strenght too depends on the situation . Also the Na Yin melodic element are useful also for giving general intellectual environnment and give hint too .  That s the reason why there is in chinese the heaven stem with the earth branch, because each branch are different even if same animal  , but different heaven stem and that can give a very deep understanding of the subject on the divination.

I saw a lot of situation where there where solution if people would like to change their point of view and then we can make use of symbolic star and get better understanding with na yin in order to turn bad into good luck . It s pity that people don't use it :'(

about the other line that is not relevant , I personnaly prefer to keep it because I can remember it in the whole Hexagram , but if it s only an option that you can click to hidde it s ok for me

If you could put the six animal in left , and then the hidder , it would be easier as it s the format used in  chinese traditionnal way of plotting hex. if its  ok for you



Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 06, 2019, 11:18:05 PM
Dear @firelink .. hi
When I started to learn Liu Yao  (or Wen Wang gua) .. it was challenging for me to combine many theories coming from Chinese metaphysics.
I was adding so many things expecting that will make the difference...!!
But I was so faraway  from correct judgements  .. and feel so bad for it...!!
Much time I was spend when one day I desided to delete what is overload on this divination art ( Liu Yao ).
The results are much better ... and feel very glad for it.
We may know many subjects on CM.. but we must not combine all together...!!
For Liu Yao is not a matter of addition rather is a matter of delition. .!!.. until remains what is fittful. .!!
I should like to combine many subjects .. but now I don't like it..
That's my humble opinion ..
Tientai 

Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 06, 2019, 11:45:44 PM
Tientai: Sure, will add one more html for that design.

firelink: Animals then hidden lines, sure, will rearrange it in both np.
I added ways to show or hide the lines in the other hexagram, so it can be switched on and off.


About the symbolic stars... We do have them in the PC app, currently(all from the topic there):
(https://i.postimg.cc/xC23C9CG/WWGwith-Stars.png)
Right click on a line > Symbolic Star for the Line - and it will show all of them that are valid for that specific line.
Symbolic Stars in the menu will show all of them.

Link to app is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

Manual is here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/380367830/Gmuli-Wen-Wang-Gua-Calculator-Manual (https://www.scribd.com/document/380367830/Gmuli-Wen-Wang-Gua-Calculator-Manual)

Adding them to the site, they aren't very fully translated in there. As far as I remember from what we talked in the forums they have specific topics where they are working/covering(obvious for some, like legal problems suggest its assuming legal related question) and that part is missing, so I think I would prefer to wait for alternative translation or if they are included in a book someday.


Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 12:28:16 AM
thankx for the information Gmuli , Could you add the heaven stem associated with the branch in the hex ? about the program , thank for the link, but  I don't use MS Windows thats  why I would be happy to have this function in a web application format , otherwise do you have a Linux version or having a way to compile it on a GNU/Linux machine ? I hope my need  can  be included in some way if it s possible :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
Quote
Could you add the heaven stem associated with the branch in the hex ?
We will have that, sure.

otherwise do you have a Linux version or having a way to compile it on a GNU/Linux machine ?

We can run them in multiple ways.

Еasiest way is to use the new mono VB support layer. I will cover it for Ubuntu, as that is the most user friendly Linux I think, if you are using something heavier will probably know how to install and run package as well.

Step by step:

Go in the directory where you saved the .exe
Open Terminal There(Right Click on empty space, Open Terminal Here for XFCE).
This 3 commands are all you need:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install mono-vbnc
mono "Gmuli WWG Calculator.exe"

Random generation of Hexagram won't work there(it will provide the same values every time) as the support for the random classes in mono and wine has never been good. The rest all works I think, so you can add any hexagram you made and it will show you the symbolic stars, stems with the lines(traditional), stems with the lines(alternative) and many others things.
Also can create hexagram in the other ways(from events, time, name etc.)

Sceenshot of the app running on virtual machine with mono and Xubuntu:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hs5PbJr7/Screenshot-2019-04-07-12-06-10.png)

There are a few other ways to run the apps, with wine+winetricks+.net2.0 or with wine+mono.
Mono alone would hopefully work, but I can cover wine as well if you need.

Overall they are using the oldest Net version possible. That allows running them on XP, also running them on any Win emulation or compatibility layers like Wine or Mono, should be fine.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 01:31:56 PM
@Gmuli , it works well with the new mono version that you showed.  I m wondering how can I  choose line by line which yao it is (old yang/ young yang - old yin . young yin) like changing line or not and his yin/yang polarity for generating hexegram this way ?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
Currently we can select Hexagrams in a few ways.

We can click the Trigrams on the left(upper left for higher trigram, lower left for lower trigram).
For example if we want to input 64, we click 9.Li in the Upper Trigrams on the left.
Then we click 6.Kan in the Lower Left Trigrams, and it will show Hexagram 64.
Then we click the changing lines that we want one by one. It will create the name of the hexagram and the result one right away.

Alternatively we can press F4 and type 64. That will also show the Hexagram. If we want to input it faster, we can press F4 > 64.5 and that will add Hexagram 64 with changing line 5. We can also write the name of the Hexagram, but that is very limited in how it works yet, so I would suggest the other ways of input.

When we click the lines it shows info about them(Strength, Relations, Activity etc.).

If you check the manual there are more details for other ways to input them/generate Hexagram.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
I have check about input method ,  it does work about the red arrow , I was just wondering about na yin , there is a mention of na yin but i cannot find it on the earthly branch of the hexagram ?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 02:12:02 PM
I have check about input method ,  it does work about the red arrow , I was just wondering about na yin , there is a mention of na yin but i cannot find it on the earthly branch of the hexagram ?

Currently we have a very unusual implementation of Na Yin on the branches. It will work only for blindsect branches and stems.
How to see that:

View > Branches > Blindsect(or Alt+2)
View> Additional Info on Lines > Stems(based on blindsect) or (Ctrl+4)

When we have both of them enabled, if you mouse over the relation it will show the Na Yin element and the words that come with it.

Keep in mind there seem to be a lot of blindsects/schools out there and it seems very few of them use this assignment of stems/branches. I personally enjoy the traditional method as it has a lot of meaning behind it(their method may have as well, I haven't looked into it much).

Na Yin from the Stem of Trigram + Traditional Branch we don't have currently.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 02:23:32 PM
about the symbolic star , some of them doesn't seem to fit the traditionnal understanding   for exemple : 3.Heaven Adversity
Transforms misfortune To good fortune.  - Is there a way to modify it ?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 02:34:15 PM
about the symbolic star , some of them doesn't seem to fit the traditionnal understanding   for exemple : 3.Heaven Adversity
Transforms misfortune To good fortune.  - Is there a way to modify it ?

Once its exe no, but I can change the description and upload new version with the changes if you want.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 03:33:56 PM
about the symbolic star , some of them doesn't seem to fit the traditionnal understanding   for exemple : 3.Heaven Adversity
Transforms misfortune To good fortune.  - Is there a way to modify it ?

Once its exe no, but I can change the description and upload new version with the changes if you want.


It would be very nice from you , thankx , could you also include the chinese ideogram , the topic from Artofuge have put in text ASCII / UTF 8  format the different name in english and chinese and also pinyin phonetic from Axis (I could add  the WUBI format too , I have some bash script that I wrote about it for the wubi part, I can send it to you if you need it :) )  , I suppose it would help  :) https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0

I was also wondering about the symbolic star in the resulting hexagram , how can I see them ?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 04:34:43 PM
I looked into the descriptions, next update should work fine.

Here are the names, feel free to add whatever you need.

StarNames(1) = "Nobleman"
StarNames(2) = "Fortune star"
StarNames(3) = "Heaven Virtue"
StarNames(4) = "Moon Virtue"
StarNames(5) = "Fortune Nobleman"
StarNames(6) = "Happiness from Heaven"
StarNames(7) = "Heavenly Horse"
StarNames(8) = "Official Amulet Seal"
StarNames(9) = "Moon Virtue Combo"
StarNames(10) = "Heavenly Doctor"
StarNames(11) = "Heavenly Amnesty"
StarNames(12) = "Roval Amnesty"
StarNames(13) = "Amnesty Scroll"
StarNames(14) = "Ten Heavenly Stems Amnesty"
StarNames(15) = "Four Seasons Amnesty"
StarNames(16) = "Heavenly Ear & Eye"
StarNames(17) = "Official Nobleman"
StarNames(18) = "Heaven Solver"
StarNames(19) = "Earth Solver"
StarNames(20) = "Dav Solver"
StarNames(21) = "Moon Solver"
StarNames(22) = "Inner Solver"
StarNames(23) = "Outer Solver"
StarNames(24) = "Relief Deitv"
StarNames(25) = "Separation Deitv"
StarNames(26) = "Day Separation"
StarNames(27) = "Thunder Fire Deitv"
StarNames(28) = "Shining Live star"
StarNames(29) = "Open Prison Deitv"
StarNames(30) = "Grand Duke"
StarNames(31) = "Slashing Sword"
StarNames(32) = "Rotting Corpse"
StarNames(33) = "Sun"
StarNames(34) = "Emptv Skv"
StarNames(35) = "Funeral Door"
StarNames(36) = "Entangled Net"
StarNames(37) = "Iron Chains"
StarNames(38) = "Official Tally"
StarNames(39) = "Five Ghosts"
StarNames(40) = "Death Amulet"
StarNames(41) = "Small D eplete "
StarNames(42) = "Barricade"
StarNames(43) = "Big Deplete"
StarNames(44) = "Utter Defeat "
StarNames(45) = "Heaven Adversity"
StarNames(46) = "Flving Curtain"
StarNames(47) = "W hite Tiger"
StarNames(48) = "Fortune Virtue"
StarNames(49) = "C urled Tongue"
StarNames(50) = "Heavenly Dog"
StarNames(51) = "Funeral Guest"
StarNames(52) = "Sickness Am ulet"
StarNames(53) = "Finality"
StarNames(54) = "Calamity spirit"
StarNames(55) = "Robberv spirit"
StarNames(56) = "Sinking Ship"
StarNames(57) = "Blood Knife"
StarNames(58) = "Bald Head"
StarNames(59) = "Weeping Skv"
StarNames(60) = "Heavenly Prison"
StarNames(61) = "Four Seasons Robberysta"
StarNames(62) = "Heavenly Robbery star"
StarNames(63) = "Four Seasons Small spirit"
StarNames(64) = "Big Dusk spirit"
StarNames(65) = "Tomb Door spirit"
StarNames(66) = "Hill of 3 & Tomb of 5"
StarNames(67) = "Funeral Carriage"
StarNames(68) = "Bathing spirit"
StarNames(69) = "Closure Lock"
StarNames(70) = "Salty ake"
StarNames(71) = "Widower star"
StarNames(72) = "Solitude"
StarNames(73) = "Empty House"
StarNames(74) = "Dark spirit"
StarNames(75) = "Hammer Official Tall"
StarNames(76) = "Hooking spirit"
StarNames(77) = "White Tiger spirit"
StarNames(78) = "Death Penalty"
StarNames(79) = "Isolation deitv"
StarNames(80) = "Broken Piece"
StarNames(81) = "Banner spirit"
StarNames(82) = "Dead-end Path"
StarNames(83) = "Travelling Horse"
StarNames(84) = "Heavenly Wealth"
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Dao on April 07, 2019, 05:07:30 PM
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Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 07, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
@Gmuli  thankx , what is the delimiter ? I m making a csv file with the different field . I think to use the vertical line as delimiter  |  , what do you think
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 07, 2019, 11:02:00 PM
It doesn't need different value for each word/character even if its in Chinese or another language.
I was thinking just to add the other parts in the quotes.
So instead of
Starnames[1] = "Nobleman"
It can be
Starnames[1] = "Nobleman Some Other Text Even in Chinese"
For example. : )

Then paste it in a post and I can add to the app.
Otherwise its more complicated then it needs to be.




Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 08, 2019, 12:37:14 PM
ok here is the conversation / add  using UTF8

StarNames(1) = "Nobleman   天乙贵人   tiān yǐ guìrén   gd nnl khgm w    From Day stem "
StarNames(2) = "Fortune star   福星   fú xīng   pyg jtg   From Day stem "
StarNames(3) = "Heaven Virtue   天德星   tiān dé xīng   gd tfl jtg   From Month Branch"
StarNames(4) = "Moon Virtue   月德星   yuè dé xīng   eee tfl jtg   From Month Branch"
StarNames(5) = "Fortune Nobleman   天福贵人   tiān fú guì rén   gd pyg khgm w   From Day stem"
StarNames(6) = "Happiness from Heaven   天喜   tiān xǐ   gd fku    From Month Branch"
StarNames(7) = "Heavenly Horse   天马   tiān mǎ   gd cn    From Month Branch"
StarNames(8) = "Official Amulet Seal   唐符国印   táng fú guó yìn   yvh twf l qgb    From Year Branch"
StarNames(9) = "Moon Virtue Combo   月德合   yuè dé hé   eee tfl wgk   From Month Branch"
StarNames(10) = "Heavenly Doctor   天医   tiān yī    gd atd   From Month Branch"
StarNames(11) = "Heavenly Amnesty   天赦   tiān shè   gd fot   From Month Branch"
StarNames(12) = "Royal Amnesty   皇恩大赦   huáng ēn dà shè   rgf ldn dd fot   From Month Branch"
StarNames(13) = "Amnesty Scroll   赦文   shè wén    fot yygy   From Month Branch"
StarNames(14) = "Ten Heavenly Stems Amnesty   十干天赦   shí gān tiān shè   fgh fggh gd fot   From Day stem "
StarNames(15) = "Four Seasons Amnesty   四季天赦   sì jì tiān shè   lh tb gd fot    From Month Branch"
StarNames(16) = "Heavenly Ear & Eye   天耳天目   tiān ěr tiān mù   gd bgh gd hhhh    From Month Branch"
StarNames(17) = "Official Nobleman   官福贵人   guān fú guì rén   pn pyg khgm w    From Day stem "
StarNames(18) = "Heaven Solver   天解   tiān jiě   gd qev    From Month Branch"
StarNames(19) = "Earth Solver   地解   di jiě   f qev    From Month Branch"
StarNames(20) = "Day Solver   日解   rì jiě   jjjj qev    From Day stem "
StarNames(21) = "Moon Solver   月解   yuè jiě   eee qev   From Month Branch"
StarNames(22) = "Inner Solver   内解   nèi jiě   mw qev   From Day stem "
StarNames(23) = "Outer Solver   外解   wài jiě   qh qev   From Month Branch"
StarNames(24) = "Relief Deity   解脱神   jiě tuō shén   qev euk pyj   From Day stem "
StarNames(25) = "Separation Deity   喝散神   hē sàn shén   kjq aet pyj    From Month Branch"
StarNames(26) = "Day Separation   日喝散   rì hē sàn   jjjj kjq aet    From Day stem "
StarNames(27) = "Thunder Fire Deity   雷火神   léi huǒ shén   flf ooo pyj    From Month Branch"
StarNames(28) = "Shining Live star   活曜星   huó yào xīng   itd jnw jtg    From Month Branch"
StarNames(29) = "Open Prison Deity   开狱神   kāi yù shén   ga qtyd pyj    From Month Branch"
StarNames(30) = "Grand Duke   太岁   tài suì   dy mqu   From Year Branch"
StarNames(31) = "Slashing Sword   剑锋   jiàn fēng   wgi qtd    From Year Branch"
StarNames(32) = "Rotting Corpse   腐尸   fǔ shī   ywfw nngt    From Year Branch"
StarNames(33) = "Sun   太阳   tài yáng   dy bj   From Year Branch"
StarNames(34) = "Empty Sky   天空   tiān kōng   gd pw    From Year Branch"
StarNames(35) = "Funeral Door   丧门   sàng mén   fue uyh    From Year Branch"
StarNames(36) = "Entangled Net   勾绞   gōu jiǎo   qci xuq    From Year Branch"
StarNames(37) = "Iron Chains   贯索   guàn suǒ   xfm fpx    From Year Branch"
StarNames(38) = "Official Tally   官符   guān fú   pn twf    From Year Branch"
StarNames(39) = "Five Ghosts   五鬼   wǔ guǐ   gg rqc    From Year Branch"
StarNames(40) = "Death Amulet   死符   sǐ fú   gqx twf    From Year Branch"
StarNames(41) = "Small Deplete   小耗   xiǎo hào   ih ditn    From Year Branch"
StarNames(42) = "Barricade   栏杆   lán gān   suf sfh    From Year Branch"
StarNames(43) = "Big Deplete   大耗   dà hào   dd ditn    From Year Branch"
StarNames(44) = "Utter Defeat   暴败   bào bài   jaw mty    From Year Branch"
StarNames(45) = "Heaven Adversity   天厄   tiān è   gd dbv    From Year Branch"
StarNames(46) = "Flying Curtain   飞廉   fēi lián   nui yuvo    From Year Branch"
StarNames(47) = "White Tiger   白虎   bái hǔ   rrr ha    From Year Branch"
StarNames(48) = "Fortune Virtue   福德   fú dé   pyg tfl    From Year Branch"
StarNames(49) = "Curled Tongue   卷舌   juǎn shé   udbb tdd    Year Branch"
StarNames(50) = "Heavenly Dog   天狗   tiān gǒu   gd qtq    Year Branch"
StarNames(51) = "Funeral Guest   吊客   diào kè   kmh pt    Year Branch"
StarNames(52) = "Sickness Amulet   病符   bìng fú   ugm twf   Year Branch"
StarNames(53) = "Finality   亡神   wáng shén   ynv pyj    Year Branch"
StarNames(54) = "Calamity spirit   灾煞   zāi shā   po qvt    From Day Branch"
StarNames(55) = "Robbery spirit   劫煞   jié shā   fclnz qvt   From Day Branch"
StarNames(56) = "Sinking Ship   浮沉   fú chén   ieb ipm    Year Branch"
StarNames(57) = "Blood Knife   血刃   xuè rèn   tld vyiz    Year Branch"
StarNames(58) = "Bald Head   披头   pī tóu   rhc udi    Year Branch"
StarNames(59) = "Weeping Sky   天哭   tiān kū   gd kkdu    From Month Branch"
StarNames(60) = "Heavenly Prison   天狱   tiān yù   gd qtyd   From Month Branch"
StarNames(61) = "Four Seasons Robbery star   四季天贼   sì jì tiān zéi   lh tb gd madt   From Month Branch"
StarNames(62) = "Heavenly Robbery star   天贼   tiān zéi   gd madt   From Month Branch"
StarNames(63) = "Four Seasons Small spirit   四季小煞   sì jì xiǎo shā   lh tb ih qvt   From Month Branch"
StarNames(64) = "Big Dusk spirit   日下大煞   rì xià dà shā   jjjj gh dd qvt   From Day stem "
StarNames(65) = "Tomb Door spirit   墓门煞   mù mén shā   ajdf uyh qvt    From Day stem "
StarNames(66) = "Hill of 3 & Tomb of 5   三丘五墓   sān qiū wǔ mù   dg rgd gg ajdf    From Month Branch"
StarNames(67) = "Funeral Carriage   丧车煞   sàng chē shā   fue lg qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(68) = "Bathing spirit   沐浴煞   mù yù shā   isy iww qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(69) = "Closure Lock   关索煞   guān suǒ shā   ud fpx qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(70) = "Salty Lake   咸池煞   xián chí shā   dgk ib qvt    Year Branch"
StarNames(71) = "Widower star   鳏寡煞   guān guǎ shā   qgli pde qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(72) = "Solitude   孤辰   gū chén   br dfe    From Day Branch"
StarNames(73) = "Empty House   寡宿   guǎ sù   pde pwdj   From Day Branch"
StarNames(74) = "Dark spirit   阴煞   yīn shā   be qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(75) = "Hammer Official Tally   锤门官符   chuí mén guān fú   qtgfz uyh pn twf   From Month Branch"
StarNames(76) = "Hooking spirit   勾陈煞   gōu chén shā   qci ba qvt   From Month Branch"
StarNames(77) = "White Tiger spirit   白虎煞   bái hǔ shā   rrr ha qvt    From Month Branch"
StarNames(78) = "Death Penalty   受死   shòu sǐ   epc gqx   From Month Branch"
StarNames(79) = "Isolation deity   隔神   gé shén   bgk pyj   From Month Branch"
StarNames(80) = "Broken Piece   破碎煞   pò suì shā   dhc dyw qvt    Year Branch"
StarNames(81) = "Banner spirit   旌旗煞   jīng qí shā   "yttg yta qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(82) = "Dead-end Path   截路空亡   jié lù kōng wáng   faw kht pw ynv   From Day stem"
StarNames(83) = "Travelling Horse   驿马   yì mǎ   ccf cn    From Day Branch"
StarNames(84) = "Heavenly Wealth   天元禄   tiān yuán lù   gd fqb pyv    From Day stem"

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StarNames(1) = "Nobleman 天乙贵人 tiān yǐ guìrén gd nnl khgm w From Day stem "
StarNames(2) = "Fortune star 福星 fú xīng pyg jtg From Day stem "
StarNames(3) = "Heaven Virtue 天德星 tiān dé xīng gd tfl jtg From Month Branch"
StarNames(4) = "Moon Virtue 月德星 yuè dé xīng eee tfl jtg From Month Branch"
StarNames(5) = "Fortune Nobleman 天福贵人 tiān fú guì rén gd pyg khgm w From Day stem"
StarNames(6) = "Happiness from Heaven 天喜 tiān xǐ gd fku From Month Branch"
StarNames(7) = "Heavenly Horse 天马 tiān mǎ gd cn From Month Branch"
StarNames(8) = "Official Amulet Seal 唐符国印 táng fú guó yìn yvh twf l qgb From Year Branch"
StarNames(9) = "Moon Virtue Combo 月德合 yuè dé hé eee tfl wgk From Month Branch"
StarNames(10) = "Heavenly Doctor 天医 tiān yī gd atd From Month Branch"
StarNames(11) = "Heavenly Amnesty 天赦 tiān shè gd fot From Month Branch"
StarNames(12) = "Royal Amnesty 皇恩大赦 huáng ēn dà shè rgf ldn dd fot From Month Branch"
StarNames(13) = "Amnesty Scroll 赦文 shè wén fot yygy From Month Branch"
StarNames(14) = "Ten Heavenly Stems Amnesty 十干天赦 shí gān tiān shè fgh fggh gd fot From Day stem "
StarNames(15) = "Four Seasons Amnesty 四季天赦 sì jì tiān shè lh tb gd fot From Month Branch"
StarNames(16) = "Heavenly Ear & Eye 天耳天目 tiān ěr tiān mù gd bgh gd hhhh From Month Branch"
StarNames(17) = "Official Nobleman 官福贵人 guān fú guì rén pn pyg khgm w From Day stem "
StarNames(18) = "Heaven Solver 天解 tiān jiě gd qev From Month Branch"
StarNames(19) = "Earth Solver 地解 di jiě f qev From Month Branch"
StarNames(20) = "Day Solver 日解 rì jiě jjjj qev From Day stem "
StarNames(21) = "Moon Solver 月解 yuè jiě eee qev From Month Branch"
StarNames(22) = "Inner Solver 内解 nèi jiě mw qev From Day stem "
StarNames(23) = "Outer Solver 外解 wài jiě qh qev From Month Branch"
StarNames(24) = "Relief Deity 解脱神 jiě tuō shén qev euk pyj From Day stem "
StarNames(25) = "Separation Deity 喝散神 hē sàn shén kjq aet pyj From Month Branch"
StarNames(26) = "Day Separation 日喝散 rì hē sàn jjjj kjq aet From Day stem "
StarNames(27) = "Thunder Fire Deity 雷火神 léi huǒ shén flf ooo pyj From Month Branch"
StarNames(28) = "Shining Live star 活曜星 huó yào xīng itd jnw jtg From Month Branch"
StarNames(29) = "Open Prison Deity 开狱神 kāi yù shén ga qtyd pyj From Month Branch"
StarNames(30) = "Grand Duke 太岁 tài suì dy mqu From Year Branch"
StarNames(31) = "Slashing Sword 剑锋 jiàn fēng wgi qtd From Year Branch"
StarNames(32) = "Rotting Corpse 腐尸 fǔ shī ywfw nngt From Year Branch"
StarNames(33) = "Sun 太阳 tài yáng dy bj From Year Branch"
StarNames(34) = "Empty Sky 天空 tiān kōng gd pw From Year Branch"
StarNames(35) = "Funeral Door 丧门 sàng mén fue uyh From Year Branch"
StarNames(36) = "Entangled Net 勾绞 gōu jiǎo qci xuq From Year Branch"
StarNames(37) = "Iron Chains 贯索 guàn suǒ xfm fpx From Year Branch"
StarNames(38) = "Official Tally 官符 guān fú pn twf From Year Branch"
StarNames(39) = "Five Ghosts 五鬼 wǔ guǐ gg rqc From Year Branch"
StarNames(40) = "Death Amulet 死符 sǐ fú gqx twf From Year Branch"
StarNames(41) = "Small Deplete 小耗 xiǎo hào ih ditn From Year Branch"
StarNames(42) = "Barricade 栏杆 lán gān suf sfh From Year Branch"
StarNames(43) = "Big Deplete 大耗 dà hào dd ditn From Year Branch"
StarNames(44) = "Utter Defeat 暴败 bào bài jaw mty From Year Branch"
StarNames(45) = "Heaven Adversity 天厄 tiān è gd dbv From Year Branch"
StarNames(46) = "Flying Curtain 飞廉 fēi lián nui yuvo From Year Branch"
StarNames(47) = "White Tiger 白虎 bái hǔ rrr ha From Year Branch"
StarNames(48) = "Fortune Virtue 福德 fú dé pyg tfl From Year Branch"
StarNames(49) = "Curled Tongue 卷舌 juǎn shé udbb tdd Year Branch"
StarNames(50) = "Heavenly Dog 天狗 tiān gǒu gd qtq Year Branch"
StarNames(51) = "Funeral Guest 吊客 diào kè kmh pt Year Branch"
StarNames(52) = "Sickness Amulet 病符 bìng fú ugm twf Year Branch"
StarNames(53) = "Finality 亡神 wáng shén ynv pyj Year Branch"
StarNames(54) = "Calamity spirit 灾煞 zāi shā po qvt From Day Branch"
StarNames(55) = "Robbery spirit 劫煞 jié shā fclnz qvt From Day Branch"
StarNames(56) = "Sinking Ship 浮沉 fú chén ieb ipm Year Branch"
StarNames(57) = "Blood Knife 血刃 xuè rèn tld vyiz Year Branch"
StarNames(58) = "Bald Head 披头 pī tóu rhc udi Year Branch"
StarNames(59) = "Weeping Sky 天哭 tiān kū gd kkdu From Month Branch"
StarNames(60) = "Heavenly Prison 天狱 tiān yù gd qtyd From Month Branch"
StarNames(61) = "Four Seasons Robbery star 四季天贼 sì jì tiān zéi lh tb gd madt From Month Branch"
StarNames(62) = "Heavenly Robbery star 天贼 tiān zéi gd madt From Month Branch"
StarNames(63) = "Four Seasons Small spirit 四季小煞 sì jì xiǎo shā lh tb ih qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(64) = "Big Dusk spirit 日下大煞 rì xià dà shā jjjj gh dd qvt From Day stem "
StarNames(65) = "Tomb Door spirit 墓门煞 mù mén shā ajdf uyh qvt From Day stem "
StarNames(66) = "Hill of 3 & Tomb of 5 三丘五墓 sān qiū wǔ mù dg rgd gg ajdf From Month Branch"
StarNames(67) = "Funeral Carriage 丧车煞 sàng chē shā fue lg qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(68) = "Bathing spirit 沐浴煞 mù yù shā isy iww qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(69) = "Closure Lock 关索煞 guān suǒ shā ud fpx qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(70) = "Salty Lake 咸池煞 xián chí shā dgk ib qvt Year Branch"
StarNames(71) = "Widower star 鳏寡煞 guān guǎ shā qgli pde qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(72) = "Solitude 孤辰 gū chén br dfe From Day Branch"
StarNames(73) = "Empty House 寡宿 guǎ sù pde pwdj From Day Branch"
StarNames(74) = "Dark spirit 阴煞 yīn shā be qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(75) = "Hammer Official Tally 锤门官符 chuí mén guān fú qtgfz uyh pn twf From Month Branch"
StarNames(76) = "Hooking spirit 勾陈煞 gōu chén shā qci ba qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(77) = "White Tiger spirit 白虎煞 bái hǔ shā rrr ha qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(78) = "Death Penalty 受死 shòu sǐ epc gqx From Month Branch"
StarNames(79) = "Isolation deity 隔神 gé shén bgk pyj From Month Branch"
StarNames(80) = "Broken Piece 破碎煞 pò suì shā dhc dyw qvt Year Branch"
StarNames(81) = "Banner spirit 旌旗煞 jīng qí shā "yttg yta qvt From Month Branch"
StarNames(82) = "Dead-end Path 截路空亡 jié lù kōng wáng faw kht pw ynv From Day stem"
StarNames(83) = "Travelling Horse 驿马 yì mǎ ccf cn From Day Branch"
StarNames(84) = "Heavenly Wealth 天元禄 tiān yuán lù gd fqb pyv From Day stem"
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 08, 2019, 01:23:29 PM
Added the new names, fixed descriptions and some other formating problems, should be fine now:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

If other problems show up lets move to PMs, I wanted this topic to be more about the web apps. : )

Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: firelink on April 08, 2019, 01:42:06 PM
@Gmuli thank you , it s work, I was just wondering about adding the heaven stem in the hexagram line , you said that you will add it , or I can help to do it if you want  .  let's move on PM about ur software :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
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Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
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Hi All,
Thank you very much for improvements.. and pinyin..
- (out of topic) but very useful Shensha list for Bazi... sadly he misses the Pinyin to be clear for those who dont read ideograms...
 https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=12313.msg130253#msg130253

Note: correction, error with the link above, sorry..
Bazi shen sha tables: https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=12313.msg139312#msg139312
Best Regards

In order to use theses ShenSha , it need to be added in the calculation and table of the software of Gmuli ,  @Gmuli do you want to add them ? for me it s ok , I will make the translation / table and addition like for the previous symbolic star :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 08, 2019, 03:04:10 PM


In order to use theses ShenSha , it need to be added in the calculation and table of the software of Gmuli ,  @Gmuli do you want to add them ? for me it s ok , I will make the translation / table and addition like for the previous symbolic star :)

Isn't this BaZi Shen Sha? : O
I get some of them may be similar, but lets stay with the WWG ones in the apps. : )
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Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 11, 2019, 05:39:44 PM
If we can add this post to the first one will be great, so people can find the link.  Thanks. : )


Here it is with most of the changes we mentioned. @Tientai alternative view will come soon hopefully, but until then no reason not to post the already working version.

So link is here:
http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html (http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html)

We will make a site in the future there, but for now its nice to have the calc up and running, so people can use it. : )

I added what we mentioned already. Animals show on the left now, the lines of the Resulting Hexagram are hidden by default, they show up if they change or if we click "Show All Lines". We can see the stems on the place of the animals by clicking to show the stems.

There are 2 ways to input Hexagrams.

Changing lines we add by clicking the space after the line. Hidden lines will show up on the left os Self/Others if there are any.

And we can generate random Hexagram.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjCWshyg/brighthallwwgcalc.png)
All is dynamic so there isn't need to refresh the site.

For the BaZi date and hour, the month is selected first, just the way controls work in HTML5.

So far the code is half on javascript and half on PHP. My idea was to move all calculations to PHP, but thinking about it now, no reason to rush. Will do it in the future, meanwhile members interested in programming can see the code, also calculator can be used. The BaZi and Solar Calendar was already moved to PHP, however, so that will only show ajax requests.

Check it, let me know if you want some improvements.
What I'm currently working on:

Chinese Terms for all lines.
Alternative view for @Tientai
Moving the code to PHP and compressing the JS after, it will load faster, but the code will be unreadable.

Have idea to add the gods later as well(Hostile God etc.) as lately we talk about them a lot.

If you have visual problems try ctrl + + and ctrl + -. as sometimes on some resolution that may fix it.

Let me know about impressions/possible problems and enjoy. : )


Gmuli/Deian
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 11, 2019, 08:09:51 PM
@Gmuli .. hi ..

Very good job you did ...
it's like you got to the top of an iceberg ...
This App. is  good for common use in every examples, Quizzes, or holding records so quickly and effectively ....

*Some observations for fewer improvements are in the photo below.  I've put the possible improvements in a cloud ..
(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2019/04/11/gmulis-example.png)
I could somehow to publish this photo only by[crl copy .. Paste] or any convenient way you propose,  or any idea to create a png file ...?

Heaps of thanks @Gmuli for this work ..
tientai


Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 11, 2019, 08:57:27 PM
I haven't forgotten, but needed some more time.
The alternative view from your image is here:
http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme2.html (http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme2.html)


So here we go, alternative theme 2:


(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2019/04/06/Example-WWG.png)
While that theme looks like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/52XsRJ1B/alternativetheme2.png)


Colors of Animals - will set them with the characters in the days to come.

How to make screenshot.
I'm using this free app:

https://www.getpaint.net/download.html (https://www.getpaint.net/download.html)



Ctrl+Alt+Print Screen - this will capture the active window(current one).
Then we open the app we go to edit paste.
May ask us to we want to resize canvas, we do!

Then we can make selection of what we want to show with the tool top left(looks like rectangle).
After that pressing Image>Crop to Selection and we are ready with Image to upload.

We can upload in the server here and just link in the post. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 11, 2019, 10:50:16 PM
Some bugs with Chrome were fixed, should work fine on Chrome too, now.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 12, 2019, 12:31:21 PM
If you don't see changes try to hold Ctrl and press F5(that will empty the cache when reloading the site).

If you see bugs or problems let me know on PM or in here. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 12, 2019, 04:43:44 PM
While it should work perfectly on Chrome and Firefox right now, if someone tried Internet Explorer it didn't work at all.

I looked into that it seems a lot of what we use isn't supported by IE at all(including basic HTML5 tags), so while I got it to work a little, there will be some restrictions.

So if you are using Internet Explorer and don't have Firefox, Chrome or a way to install them(or run them portable), here is what won't work.

The rest should work fine, now.
 If someone really needs to use IE, needs to input time or manually select the trigrams and doesn't have a way to use the other browers PM me and I will rewrite it so it runs on IE as well.

With this the app is fully working on Chrome, Firefox and is almost fully working on IE, currently.

So its good start, tell me if you see problems or bugs with it that aren't mentioned . : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 17, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
Small update, mostly visual.

Visually the lines may look uneven on tablet or phone, will look into that in the future.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 24, 2019, 08:18:40 PM

With this I think we covered all that was mentioned in the topic so far with the exception of the Symbolic Stars, but as only Firelink is using them and he got the other app to run on Linux, I'm guessing that isn't important for the site now(also a mess to add as there are lots of them).
Also what Ren mentioned about the tables, but as I don't have information on that and it may be proprietary I can't move on with it yet.

If you see problems or bugs let me know, I'm thinking of what should I add next, when I figure it out will mention, meanwhile if someone needs something else not proprietary let me know on PM or in here. : )

As always use Ctrl+F5 to update the cache if you can't see Nayin or another thing.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 26, 2019, 09:48:03 PM
We have secure connection to the site now.

https://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html (https://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html)
https://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html (https://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html)

Also added chinese characters to the old calculator.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 29, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
We have functions for screenshot now on Chrome,Firefox and mobile.
(check at the lower part of the page)

It can save Image either of the whole screen or just the upper part with the Hexagrams. IE doesn't support the libraries, so it won't be visible option there.
(will look into some alternative in the future for IE, probably)

There were some problems with the ( )  for void. We also mark it as Grey color in the relation. The color always work, but the brackets may need some input(changing line, trigram, anything really) to show up. Otherwise should work fine.
Will look into that as well.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xM2hNXN/Example-Question.png)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 30, 2019, 04:48:20 PM
dear @Gmuli .. hi

Thanks for your interest and helping with your marvellous work by the App.
http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html  .. is what i need..
i want to ask you if you could put the below keys on this Theme3.html ...

(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2019/04/24/nayin.png)

You create the https://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html
But I want to start writing the date by the use of Chinese month and day pillars ...
and not starting from the western calculating calendar. .. !!

Best regards
Tientai
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 30, 2019, 05:25:20 PM
I thought you meant the Na Yin. You mean the "choosing day stem/branch thing"?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 30, 2019, 08:56:42 PM
I thought you meant the Na Yin. You mean the "choosing day stem/branch thing"?

correct @Gmuli  ... "choosing day stem/branch " .. irrespective of western calculator ..
thanks anyway
tt.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 30, 2019, 09:30:47 PM
Sure, np.
May take some time, though, will post when ready.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on May 01, 2019, 04:07:24 PM
Added function to change day branch, day stem, month branch or month stem manually in all themes.

To do it click day branch, month branch, day stem or month stem.

Now, that is connected to some changed, however.
If we do it where it used to give some extra info will say "Manually Selected Stem/Branches." as the way the connection is between Day and Month pillar there is no way to know how many days there are to end of the month just from these 2 pillars.

Similar problem with Solar Longitude, as we can't know when that day is in the month we know the range now, so instead of saying exact longitude it will say the range of 30 degrees based on month branch.

Animals, Void and everything else will adjust to the selected Stems/Branches.
If the Stems/Branches doesn't exist(different polarity) the Na Yin element will lose its background color, indicating that the pillar we have added is impossible. It will still try to calculate as best as it can.



Links are same as always, and we can choose day/month branches and stems not only by clicking the lower pillars but also the higher ones in Theme 1.

http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html (http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html)
http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html (http://bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on May 01, 2019, 05:14:19 PM
@Gmuli  .. hi

This application is admirable  .. I'm left speechless !!
All I would say a great thumbs up and Bravo .. thank you ..
Your endeavor is perfect ..
Tientai
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: ren on May 01, 2019, 09:19:28 PM
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Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on May 01, 2019, 10:22:06 PM
I added the question textbox from theme3 to the original theme as well.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on May 03, 2019, 10:33:39 PM
The brackets for void aren't working very well, the Grey color works, though. If unsure, just look at the color.
(for today for example on line 3 Parent will have darker color meaning the line is in void).
I think I should just leave the color, as its clearer to see and brackets have some programming difficulties to work very well.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on May 05, 2019, 07:55:28 AM
Starting to work on BaZi calculator part of the site.
There are many wonderful calculators out there, as most members use bazi-calculator already, I don't plan to make the one on bright-hall.net very big.
 Similar to the old app, it will cover some less used calculations that I like, but it isn't with the idea to replace the existing calculators out there.
So will just add few things that I'm using and will move on to other apps, probably XKFX next. I'm hoping to be able to make Da Liu Ren and Tai Yi calculators when all else is done, although not sure it will be possible with the existing info, we will see.

Anyway, since next is the BaZi part, if someone wants something in it that isn't in the other free calculators out there, feel free to post. And again bazi-calculator (https://bazi-calculator.com/) is free for reasonable use, so I don't plan to focus on the BaZi calculator at our website too much. : )
No point giving free alternative to something that is already free and we are happy with.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on July 15, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
We were talking about this in the other forum, seems good idea to clear it out here as well.
A lot of visual stuff(everything more or less) can be changed from your own PC after the site is already running.

Lets say you want borders.

In Firefox, press F12.
Go to Console

Write this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxWw8dJ0/code-for-borders.png)

And press Enter for borders.

Similarly any javascript thing you want to change you can do after its already running.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on July 15, 2019, 10:42:34 AM
Another example lets say you want to remove the Menu text, as you want to make screenshot and it does show up now on all pages.

Press F12.
Go to console.
Type this:

document.getElementById("menubutton").style.display = 'none';

Enter.
And it will be gone. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on July 25, 2019, 04:34:25 PM
We will remove the buttons for taking screenshot. The reason for that is that there is much easier way now with Firefox(probably with all browsers, but as the website is made with Firefox in mind, will cover that).

To use check the URL line for the 3 black dots. Click that and click Take Sceenshot. Then choose what part of the screen you want saved and click Download.

Easier way to do the same, just open the site you want and press Ctrl+Shift+S

Images how to do it here:
https://screenshots.firefox.com/

Its much simpler and more useful then the code on the side, even more so consider it has some problems connected to it, so it will be removed at some point, this should be much easier and nicer.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on August 15, 2019, 02:31:28 PM
Was mentioned that the WWG site has some function that people may not know when they visit it. So I added a tour to it explaining some functions. To start it load the site and press Help up left corner(press Ctrl+F5 if you don't see Help there).
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps - hexagram names
Post by: JLim on August 17, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
Hi Gmuli, I have just discovered that you use the Wade-Giles system for the hexagram names.  But there are some corrections that I would like to suggest for the following hexagrams:

5 Hsu --> Hsü
10 Lu --> Lü
16 Yu --> Yü
56 Lu --> Lü

Hexagram 10 and hexagram 56 are the same in pronunciation but different in Chinese: 10 is Lü 履 (Treading) and 56 is Lü 旅 (The Wanderer).

This is one source for the hexagram names as translated by Richard Wilhelm: http://www2.unipr.it/~deyoung/I_Ching_Wilhelm_Translation.html#5
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps - hexagram names
Post by: Gmuli on August 17, 2019, 08:20:01 PM
All done, thanks for feedback. : )
(need Ctrl+F5 if it doesn't show, right away)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: JLim on September 30, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
Hi Gmuli,

I have a suggestion on the readability of the Liu Yao software plot.  For example, in the case Does this project end well with this teacher? (http://fivearts.org/index.php?action=post;quote=5550;topic=825.0;last_msg=5558), the text on the right side Void Branches are Xu and Hai.  Void Stream ends in ... (and so on) would be nicer if it was well-aligned.  Do you think you could modify that a bit?
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on September 30, 2019, 09:34:01 AM
Hi Gmuli,

I have a suggestion on the readability of the Liu Yao software plot.  For example, in the case Does this project end well with this teacher? (http://fivearts.org/index.php?action=post;quote=5550;topic=825.0;last_msg=5558), the text on the right side Void Branches are Xu and Hai.  Void Stream ends in ... (and so on) would be nicer if it was well-aligned.  Do you think you could modify that a bit?

We are working on a lot of changes in the way it looks.
But as its third party libraries it takes some time to implement them.

Will post when we have something. But all that stuff should be better after the change.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Sacrar on October 01, 2019, 12:44:22 AM
@Gmuli

Will it be possible in the web version of the calculator to include the energy valuation of each line based on the month EB, as it is included in the calculator for windows? and all the other things/stuffs included in extra info lines? stars and 12 gods? Or is it too much to ask?  ;D

The truth is that I find it difficult for the web version overcome your windows software, but you surprise us anyway  :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on October 01, 2019, 08:28:07 AM
@Gmuli

Will it be possible in the web version of the calculator to include the energy valuation of each line based on the month EB, as it is included in the calculator for windows? and all the other things/stuffs included in extra info lines? stars and 12 gods? Or is it too much to ask?  ;D

The truth is that I find it difficult for the web version overcome your windows software, but you surprise us anyway  :)

Thanks. : )
The problem is that a lot of members were complaining that in the windows app there was too much on screen and it was distracting.
So much that some even said its unusable like this for them.
The main one may be better to stay like this or people doesn't seem to like it.

We are working with an author on alternative version of the free web calc for a book that would be published in the future. For it we use what is used in the book and the 12 life stages and some other stuff is showing there. Also very cool diagrams. But I can't comment much on it, as its up to the author now of how we will proceed.

So far the focus is on the new calc and the new User Interface, so its easier and more friendly to use.
I do miss some stuff in the old calc as well, especially the translation/text with the lines, as I'm used to that, but its for the best I think.

Anyway, short answer - a lot of stuff going on, not sure when I will be able to look into that, can use the PC version if you need some specific function from there. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: JLim on October 02, 2019, 04:48:52 PM
The problem is that a lot of members were complaining that in the windows app there was too much on screen and it was distracting.
So much that some even said its unusable like this for them.
The main one may be better to stay like this or people doesn't seem to like it.
I would stay pretty much like this.  There is already enough information given for the Liu Yao chart plot.  Analysis and interpretation will need to be done by the analyst based on the different theories and schools that they follow.

In the case of specific Liu Yao school, customization like the below can be done:
For it we use what is used in the book and the 12 life stages and some other stuff is showing there. Also very cool diagrams. But I can't comment much on it, as its up to the author now of how we will proceed.
---------------
So far the focus is on the new calc and the new User Interface, so its easier and more friendly to use.
I do miss some stuff in the old calc as well, especially the translation/text with the lines, as I'm used to that, but its for the best I think.
I agree with the exclusion of translation/text with lines.  They are part of I Ching based divination, while Liu Yao is the analysis of Six Lines, which is just another I Ching based divination tool.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on October 02, 2019, 07:09:45 PM
Yea, the content is more or less good so far imo. The app is still there if people need some of the other stuff can always use that.

Currently, the new design will be somewhat different then what we have so far, but there are many reasons why its much better.
However, I do get people may already be used to the old calc design, so we will leave all the old versions on the same place when adding the new.
Officially the one in the menu on the site will be the new one after its done. I will post links again to the old versions here, but they may not be accessible directly on the site, haven't decided yet.

It will work on any major browser, including the ones that it doesn't work on now(like IE) and it will be a lot more nicer on mobile devices as well.

Starting to work on BaZi calculator part of the site.
There are many wonderful calculators out there, as most members use bazi-calculator already, I don't plan to make the one on bright-hall.net very big.
 Similar to the old app, it will cover some less used calculations that I like, but it isn't with the idea to replace the existing calculators out there.
So will just add few things that I'm using and will move on to other apps, probably XKFX next. I'm hoping to be able to make Da Liu Ren and Tai Yi calculators when all else is done, although not sure it will be possible with the existing info, we will see.

Anyway, since next is the BaZi part, if someone wants something in it that isn't in the other free calculators out there, feel free to post. And again bazi-calculator (https://bazi-calculator.com/) is free for reasonable use, so I don't plan to focus on the BaZi calculator at our website too much. : )
No point giving free alternative to something that is already free and we are happy with.

There was change of plans. There won't be calcs for Da Liu Ren, Tai Yi or QMDJ.
There may be one for XKDG, but it will just be interactive compass, so same as the Images we can see all around the net, only a little more easy to use.
(so 4 pillars to hexagrams, degrees to hexagrams, or hexagrams to pillar only stuff like that)

Reason for that... Well, same reason I removed the apps. Back then I thought no one is interested in DLR or Tai Yi or unusual ways of calculating Ju in QMDJ, so we would try to make calcs for systems that have been forgotten. Turns out its more or less the opposite, so no reason getting into that now. : )

Considering that in the future we may have some interactive compass for XKDG, some app for Flying Star, maybe something for 8 houses, although not sure and we will wrap up that part of the Five Arts. After that may move to a lot more complicated 3D TCM calc, but that may not happen, either, will see how it develops with time.
We plan to add some databases, so people can save questions and if they want make them available for the community to read and some stuff like that.

Although at some point we will open donations. if people want to support the initiative(as we will do all we can to keep it free for the community), there will be some ways.

After all that will probably move back to game development as that I love doing, even though its much less useful as doing it with only 2 people is challenging in today's environment.

Meanwhile, if an author, school or book seems to need calculator, we are sometimes making them, always free so far, as some of these books need support and some of the systems will be very challenging to calculate for a western person by hand(like the one with symbolic stars we added or the new one that may come in a few months).
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on November 03, 2019, 11:21:25 AM
We are good to go(moving the calc to the new design).

However, now the question comes for how exactly that should look.

Anyone have somepreference or ideas about what to change?
Or I can just move it while trying to preserve how it looks now.
Overall now is the time for ideas on how it will look. : )

Keep in mind in the future there will be other looks based on other stuff, that we won't be able to change, so if you are looking for something specific that may be covered in the future.
And will leave the current ones as well, for people used to them.

Ren: We are working on something that may also cover what you asked, but I can't go into details yet.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on January 05, 2020, 06:15:12 PM
@Gmuli

Will it be possible in the web version of the calculator to include the energy valuation of each line based on the month EB, as it is included in the calculator for windows? and all the other things/stuffs included in extra info lines? stars and 12 gods? Or is it too much to ask?  ;D

The truth is that I find it difficult for the web version overcome your windows software, but you surprise us anyway  :)

Its ready. : )
May not see it right away, though, there is stuff that can be done(delete cache or open in a mode without cache, /flushdns etc.), but in general it should show up in the old space sooner or later for all.

Sooo.. The strength in the month and what we talked about after that for the hidden lines is in there, currently.
Its somewhat easier to use now. You can click any of the branches and it will show all relations, hidden lines, day branch etc.

The other thing is that you can drag and drop a branch to another branch and it will show only the relation of those 2 to each other. Makes it much easier to use. And that will also work for all branches that have some role in it, including hidden ones.
(https://i.postimg.cc/76YnkNDw/draganddrop.png)
I haven't added much else, coz of already mentioned reasons. : )

All of the relations will show in the color of the branch and they can be closed. So you can only leave the relations you think are valid or matter for what you are using them and make screenshot or anything along those lines.

The old design for @Tientai is still accessible, it doesn't have the strength by the month and the other stuff, as no one wanted it before anyway(the old version is accessible from the menu Liu Yao /WWG > WWG Old Design.



There aren't any rules added, for when combination will be valid or when line will be falling in tomb etc. Also any detail on its strength other then the basic relation to the element of the month branch.
When/if we make different versions with other authors/practitioners we will add whatever they want to use.
The stuff that we are using is more or less in the .exe app.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Sacrar on January 16, 2020, 08:04:21 PM
@Gmuli  Please, Could you keep the alternative view of the old version of the calculator? I had gotten used to that view because it is clear, clean and pleasing to the eye, and it is easier to work on it to export it to doc/word document format. By alternative view I mean this one:
(https://i.ibb.co/NjTyP2K/Sin-t-tulo.png) (https://ibb.co/fpDx5dH)

Although I really think that this was the main version and the one you left is the alternative version, the one a forum member likes, the one with a full pillar of day and month

Greetings.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: JLim on January 16, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Hi Gmuli,

I do like your software because of the presentation in English.  But is it possible to have the Output displayed using less width, like the Chinese app that I use?  I know the Chinese characters are more concise than any language that uses the Latin alphabet.  But if you can present it with somewhat less width can make it comfortably fit on the phone too. 

(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2020/01/10/image.png)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on January 16, 2020, 09:20:13 PM
@Gmuli  Please, Could you keep the alternative view of the old version of the calculator? I had gotten used to that view because it is clear, clean and pleasing to the eye, and it is easier to work on it to export it to doc/word document format. By alternative view I mean this one:
(https://i.ibb.co/NjTyP2K/Sin-t-tulo.png) (https://ibb.co/fpDx5dH)

Although I really think that this was the main version and the one you left is the alternative version, the one a forum member likes, the one with a full pillar of day and month

Greetings.

Well, sure, but the new look has a lot of perks. For example we can directly access a question and date of asking now like this:

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/64,0,1,0,1,1,0,9,1,2020-01-16,22:10

So this will load hexagram 64 with changling line 5 asked today. Any question we ask it will provide string(just click copyURL) and we can send that and it will load that quesiton on that day.

To be even more useful, we can just open the old .txt files from the old site or app and paste the string after the url and it will load that question asked at that time.
We can even load the quesiton just by QRCode or make QRcode and send so people can make.
So if you have QR reading app on the phone, can just scan the code and it will load the page with the question and date.

I will post some help pdf or something, someday, as its getting somewhat complex.
Also there are relations between the branches!Most of us probably doesn't need by now, but if we make screenshot we can show some relation in it. : )

And we can enable all 4 pillars from settings in the new one. : )

Aaaand of course, if that isn't enough the old design you mean is still accessible here:
https://old.bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalc.html
(although the menu will need some fixing, will fix later today)

While the old design we made with @Tientai  is still here:
https://old.bright-hall.net/WWG/WWGCalcTheme3.html

JLim:
They are using just the Chinese characters, though, that is much easier on space.
I have a lot of difficulties fitting all of the info in the screen. Currently, the field with the Chinese characters also shows the relations. And from what I have seen there are very few English speaking enthusiasts that can read the Chinese characters for the relations.

The best from space perspective I come up with was to make each line - 2 lines of text. But it become really difficult to read for some reason.

If someone has ideas of how to format it I'm more then open to suggestions, but if I remove the english words for the relations it will do more harm then good.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on January 18, 2020, 05:34:49 PM
Still adding stuff to the new design, so there can be some fixes as well.
For example, if someone was using the url maker,replace the part before bright-hall.net with "www", as it points to the test server now. From now on it will point to the normal one, so only if you made strings last few days.
It will still open them now, but in the future we test stuff there, so better to point it to the real one(www.bright-hall.net) .

Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on January 19, 2020, 11:22:09 PM
 I plan for this to be ;ast post with info about an update here, as sometimes I make a lot of them in the apps and don't want to spam about it in here.
But as we talked about much of the stuff in this specific one, here, seems wise to post as well. From now on will post on the home page(here : https://www.bright-hall.net (https://www.bright-hall.net)) when there is big enough update.
May post link in here as well, but only something like (new update).

What is changed.
We have the old design we made integrated into the main site now. Can access it here:
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/2 (https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/2)
It can also be changed from Settings > Themes.

That will also keep the question, so can change the view while keeping the same date and other info.

Now, the theme is also added to the url that is made, if it isn't the default one. So if you are using the other theme and make url and send to someone, when they open it they will see it in the same way.


Drag and drop for branch relations and the other stuff is also there.

I removed the default Yin and Yang lines, people using that already know where they are and people that aren't using that doesn't need darker lines in reading. : )

I tried to make a shorter text so it can fit better on phones. To enable that go to settings > Show full English translations..

It works on both themes.

And thats it for now, enjoy! : )

Here is link with random question and the other theme:

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/20,0,0,0,1,0,0,4,2,2020-01-13,14:29/2/ (https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/20,0,0,0,1,0,0,4,2,2020-01-13,14:29/2/)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Sacrar on January 20, 2020, 01:27:36 AM
I just discovered that drag and drop can be done. This function look great.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Sacrar on January 20, 2020, 05:49:24 PM
@Gmuli Producing change lines by finger tapping on mobile devices does not seem to be working actually.  Tested in Chrome and Firefox.

really neither doesn't work in PC, clicking.
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on January 20, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
@Gmuli Producing change lines by finger tapping on mobile devices does not seem to be working actually.  Tested in Chrome and Firefox.

really neither doesn't work in PC, clicking.

Check now. If it still doesn't seem to work, click help and check where it will point for clicking, as its not the whole line, its just on the right of the text of the relations.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg9xzHrj/changingline20jan2020.png)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Sacrar on April 13, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Hi @Gmuli,

I detected a bug in the calculator. This month of April has 30 days, however the calculator allows to select 31st Day with somewhat strange earthly branches.

I hope it helps to correct, maybe there are other similar errors.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QxTWZJgv/Anotaci-n-2020-04-13-005420.png) (https://postimg.cc/sv32pSNJ)
Title: Re: Gmuli Web Apps
Post by: Gmuli on April 13, 2020, 05:42:14 PM
Write on mail for problems with the site pls, mail is all over the place(here and there and on the apps etc)

For selecting date and time we are using the integrated control into the browser.
За Firefox there is info here:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input/date

So we are using what is in the browser. meaning any bugs have to be fixed by them(and probably will be eventually).

I plan to add manual one for a while now. But this one has the bonus that with browser updates will get better. While if we add something manually it will stay as it is, so while it may not be perfect now(for IE doesn't work for example), as time goes by should improve with browser updates.