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Title: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on October 24, 2020, 12:20:30 AM
I have changed the Internet company and the previous operator has cut the connection before complete change has been made. So I am without Internet (I write from mobile phone).

I Asked: When the technician will come to my house to carry out the installation? In theory it would be 10 to 15 days, beyond what the hexagram says. A small big problem :(

I can not upload images to server, I hope this is enough.
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/29,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,1,2020-10-23,23:07
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 24, 2020, 07:43:22 AM
I have changed the Internet company and the previous operator has cut the connection before complete change has been made. So I am without Internet (I write from mobile phone).

I Asked: When the technician will come to my house to carry out the installation? In theory it would be 10 to 15 days, beyond what the hexagram says. A small big problem :(

I can not upload images to server, I hope this is enough.
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/29,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,1,2020-10-23,23:07

I will use QMDJ as I need to get better at it. : )
I would say 5 to 10 days.
Map is from 24 october 2020 at 8 AM.
Chai Bu now, so Ju is 5 Yin Dun.

Will explain if its, accurate. : )
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 25, 2020, 07:53:37 AM
Actually, no point explaining as no one here seems to be learning QMDJ... So with Liu Yao.
QMDJ did had a lot of indication it will happen faster then one would expect, though, so I'm aiming at all days/months that are before the last time that you are expecting it to happen(15 days).

Officer as technician I would assume?
Then it may happen when Hai comes, Hai day is 4 november, while Hai month is 7 november.

So we have from QMDJ, faster then expected around range of 5 - 10 days.
From Liu Yao, when Hai movement is complete, so around 4 November or 7 November.

 Lets wait and see.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on October 26, 2020, 08:06:31 AM
Hi, @Gmuli ..

Can you recommend any good book on Qimen dunjia  ..?

My view on @Sacrar 's case I guess .. there is much possibility technician will come on Si fire or Shen metal .. (.. when the break of Liu He of Hai -Yin)... I am on the range of 5 -10 days ..
Best regards
Tt
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Raymond on October 26, 2020, 09:13:14 AM
My guess is, the technicians probably will try to do it on 3rd of November but fails to do so (maybe no one is at home).
However they will get it done on the 4th of November.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 26, 2020, 10:16:30 AM
Hi, @Gmuli ..

Can you recommend any good book on Qimen dunjia  ..?

My view on @Sacrar 's case I guess .. there is much possibility technician will come on Si fire or Shen metal .. (.. when the break of Liu He of Hai -Yin)... I am on the range of 5 -10 days ..
Best regards
Tt

I liked Jack Sweeneys translations. He gathered a lot of cases from Chinese masters and translated them by topic(for health, or for war, or sports etc).
They may be challenging to find now, but there is a lot of info in there.

JYs material is good, in my view. People can be unfair at times to the stuff there, as it is expensive, but the material itself is good, in my humble opinion.


Lately, I'm learning from this:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DrKhimGoh/videos
https://drkhimgoh.com/

She has weekly QMDJ free lessons and I like it a lot(although I haven't watched all out yet, but I'm catching up).

Can recommend that one, its good material, there is a book that is very related to the lessons there, as well, the book it sold on the site, but if we can't afford it there is still much that can be learned from the lessons by themselves.

Lately, I'm focusing mostly on that, can't say how well it works for me yet, as its waaay too early, but I have reasons to think it will work out great. : )

If it seems it works well enough may think of writing to see if we can do something together with the calculators and stuff. I planned on no QMDJ calculator, but I'm open to making web one as well, if there is a good enough reasons to do so.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on October 26, 2020, 01:11:07 PM
Thank you @Gmuli for all these informations ...  appreciate this .

I am sure (if you deside it ) .. you are very competent on creating an app. To support th his ancient CM art ...!!
Your support with all apps you provide us make our work easy..!!
A great thanks isn't enough !!
Best regards
Tt
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 26, 2020, 01:39:38 PM
Thank you, for the encouraging words! : )
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: vadim on October 26, 2020, 05:23:11 PM
My version is November 4th. Kan gua-pre-heaven number 6 Zi-1 hour. 6 + 6 + 1 = 13. In 13 days it will be November 4th. 5 line is bounding with the day. On November 4th, hai day, she will be released. Another option: since the 5th line of hai bounding with the day, then on the day of Si hai it will be free. This will be October 29th. On the same day, the 2nd line leaves the void.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: ren on October 26, 2020, 05:27:50 PM
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Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 26, 2020, 06:33:34 PM
Well, they were for my own use, the QMDJ app specifically I couldn't upload update, as currently in it there are a lot of stuff from the JY event and it seems unfair to upload that like this... So it meant no more updates there as well... Although even now there are still some problems with the Zhi Run, the calculations are messy, but then I do find it more comfortable then most of the alternatives, as we could manually select Ju and other stuff that is usually missing in online calculators.

The android app has improved a lot, though, allows many years now and it has Zhi Run...
Has become so good, makes it pointless to make another one for android, not that I had plans for that...
The youtube lessons are using Chai Bu, though, I'm open to trying it out and that makes everything much easier, as its a lot easier to calculate...

Porting to android, doesn't seem likely... Bazi app isn't even in the forums now, I think, so will be moving in very unexpected direction...
It can happen, though, if something new comes out or if someone like the Xamarin peoples, decide to add more support for VB Net, but I doubt it.

There are a few more QMDJ books in English out there, Jack Chius and some more peoples... Although he calls it Ji Men Dun Jia, so searching QMDJ may not show it up.

I don't use Mei Hua in the usual way, so not sure I can benefit much of that, but it is good there is more sources about it now.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on October 27, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
there is much possibility technician will come on Si fire or Shen metal .. (.. when the break of Liu He of Hai -Yin)... I am on the range of 5 -10 days ..
I agree with you, Tientai.  Yong Shen is Yin Wood (Child line).  After seeing the Six Animals, between Si or Shen, I tend to favor Shen day on 1 Nov. Let's see  :)

There are 2 Officer lines.  Here is what each means:

- Xu Officer represents trouble (being cut off), which transforms to Hai Sibling that combines with Yin Child.  Child line is the problem solver or technician.  Trouble now, but problem solved later (by the technician).

This line combines with Sibling means that it's not one person, but can be either
(1) more than one technician, or
(2) any one of a team of technicians. 

- Chen Officer represents the new Internet compay.  In this hexagram, the previous Internet company is no longer relevant.

And Sacrar, you can still comment on the forum using the mobile version.  Raymond has fixed it!

Officer as technician I would assume?
Then it may happen when Hai comes, Hai day is 4 november, while Hai month is 7 november.
Gmuli, which Officer do you use?
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 27, 2020, 03:52:21 PM

Gmuli, which Officer do you use?

The one closer to him.
Coz its in the month and I view the month as a structure/canvas thing for the question, for this question makes sense to be the company.

Yet I don't know the situation, if there is someone in it related to the question that is on that line instead the reading would be different, so its the best guess for the little info we work with.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on October 27, 2020, 05:59:29 PM
Hi all.

As I commented in another post (https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1114.0), the company that supplied me with the fiber line connection is the owner of the line and is rented to the new company. The maneuver that has made cutting the service until completing the change of service can be seen as a revenge or "sabotage".

The standard procedure is as follows:

- The technician belonging to the company owner of the optic fiber line has to come first to make standard testing, installation, checking...

 - Second, the new company technician will come to install router and wireless telephone.

Is the owner of the line relevant? I suppose yes and no. Relevant because if  do not come first technician can not come after the other technician. Therefore I will not have Internet service and phone until the two technicians come.

Now can be the case that only one of the two comes, maybe only of that new company. At the moment none has called me.

An officer is empty and clash another Officer: it can be seen as it can not act if the other does not come before or it can mean that it was not involved in solving the problem (postpone or delay visit)

It can also be seen as actually the first technician is not necessary since the installation is made, and would only need the technician's installation of the new company. But you have to respect the standard procedure, a technician first and the other later.

Thanks for commenting.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 27, 2020, 06:06:50 PM
Messy. : )
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on October 27, 2020, 06:31:23 PM
Messy. : )

Yes a little complicated. I have already called the new company several times and they tell me the same always, if the first technician does not come, they can not send their own technician.

I know other people to whom the same happened. Some solved quick others were up to 1 month without service  :-[
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on October 27, 2020, 06:55:53 PM
Lets wait and see, I guess. : )

There are many ways logically to think of it...
Hexagrams are suppose to be moving from bottom up through time, so first technician may be lower Officer...
Yet another point of view may be that the one closest to you will arrive first...

So far I think its better to see how it develops first. : )
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on October 27, 2020, 07:27:02 PM
I agree let's wait and see ...!!
There is also another point of view ..!!
All Hexagram is on 6 clash category ..!!
As @Gmuli said is - a messy -
Maybe there is  a delay of the the connection .. due to 6 clash ..!!
As Alex Chiu refer : if Self line isn't supported by any moving line by a bound or by month or day then is a permanent 6 strike.. conditions may be later than expected    ..
Let's see ..
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on October 27, 2020, 08:28:18 PM
Tientai, this Self line is supported by Day, because Self line is Zi Water and Day is Hai Water.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on October 27, 2020, 08:44:24 PM
Tientai, this Self line is supported by Day, because Self line is Zi Water and Day is Hai Water.

ohhh .. yes @JLim i dont see it ...
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on October 28, 2020, 09:28:41 PM
I agree let's wait and see ...!!
There is also another point of view ..!!
All Hexagram is on 6 clash category ..!!
As @Gmuli said is - a messy -
Maybe there is  a delay of the the connection .. due to 6 clash ..!!
As Alex Chiu refer : if Self line isn't supported by any moving line by a bound or by month or day then is a permanent 6 strike.. conditions may be later than expected    ..
Let's see ..

In another thread I raised the question of breaking the lock of six clash hexagram. In this hexagram, is the conjunction (Liu He) of Hai with Yin capable of breaking the blockade?

And one extra question. Is this Liu He of Si fire (changed line) with Shen metal removes the blockage of the six clash hexagram? To break the blockage, any Liu He of the first hexagram with the second removes the blockage?

Also as JLIM points out, Mao offspring with Hai Sibling gives the image of "solution".
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on October 28, 2020, 10:35:38 PM
 
Quote
In another thread I raised the question of breaking the lock of six clash hexagram.  In this hexagram, is the conjunction (Liu He) of Hai with Yin capable of breaking the blockade?
Sacrar .. only Shen metal can break the conjunction of Liu He and also break the lock of 6 clash Hexagram due to Shen metal suporting Zi water 6th unmoving Self line ...

Also as JLIM points out, Mao offspring with Hai Sibling gives the image of "solution".
Perhaps @Sacrar  you mean Yin Offspring with Hai sibling gives the image of "solution". .. !!
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on November 07, 2020, 02:30:00 PM
Hi all,

Summary of events:

- Friday 30th October (Wu) at solar time You receive a call from new company technician to make an appointment.
- Monday 2 November (You) new company technician comes at 3 pm solar time (Shen). He can't do anything, just install equipment, but without internet, not signal...breakdown.
- Tuesday 3 November (Xu) comes another technician (subcontractor) to check what the problem is. Elevates the incidence to a higher department, to the owner of the fiber optic line.
- Wednesday 4th November (Hai) the technician from the old company that owns the fibre line comes to repair the problem in the terminal box (out, in the street). By means of this repair I can already have internet.
- Thursday 5 November (Zi) new company's technician comes to check and close the installation.

In total, 3 different technicians have come to me. It seems that on Tuesday 3rd  Xu and Wednesday 4th November Hai was the key in the hexagram, because he is the technician who manages to solve the problem and to have internet.

Thank you for participating, in general it seems that everyone was very successful, Gmuli, Tientai, Jlim, Vadim, Raymond. Gmuli your QMDJ seems accurate.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on November 08, 2020, 02:16:07 PM
Good news that you have your new Internet connection, Sacrar!
So, you had quite a few visits from different technicians.  This can be seen in the hexagram, as I commented earlier
This line combines with Sibling means that it's not one person, but can be either
(1) more than one technician, or
(2) any one of a team of technicians. 
About the exact date, since you have it on before Hai month, it's still within my expectations from the hexagram.
Title: Re: Another line cut
Post by: Sacrar on November 19, 2020, 08:57:31 PM
Hi all,

Well, well, comment that I have already suffered several breakdowns since I changed my internet company. Some fortuitous others caused by human errors and others perhaps intentional, perhaps. It seems a streak of very bad luck, the same technician says that it's the first time he sees a succession of breakdowns all followed by the same person in such a short space of time (maybe I need to check my bazi ^^). The thing is that I have suffered a third breakdown and the line needs to be repaired, but the thing is that the technician needs permission from the owner of a local/small building to be able to climb on the roof and make the repair. I have told him that it is difficult for me to contact the owner and that the best thing to do is to repair it without asking for permission, and I think that nothing will happen because of that. So one of the technicians is trying to convince the other technician to go and repair without the permission of the owner of the premises/building.

Well, in spite of this, the question is more concrete: When will I have internet again?
(https://i.postimg.cc/sgmxRfJk/internet.png) (https://postimg.cc/75Cw3kd9)
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/41,0,1,0,1,0,1,8,7,2020-11-19,19:41

If I wait until Xu is filled it will be 8 days, which seems like an eternity, so I think it will be a chen day to get Xu out of the void and Shen Offspring will be prosperous. I don't know, my skills to analyze timming are scarce.

What do you think?

PD:
- I forgot to mention, there is a potential san he of Yin-Wu-Xu, but it cannot be formed until Xu's emptiness is filled.
- I don't like that Shen offspring is hidden and broken by day and in a disappearing stage of life (it seems a bad sign).


Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on November 19, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
Its really a guessing at this point, as I'm not sure how you have assigned the lines, but for participations purposes I will go with the guess of the days around 23 november(so around next monday).
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on November 20, 2020, 11:30:46 AM
Its really a guessing at this point, as I'm not sure how you have assigned the lines, but for participations purposes I will go with the guess of the days around 23 november(so around next monday).

I did not make any particular assignments. I simply thought that having the internet means that the technician will fix the line. The Other, Yin Official line can be seen as the breakdown or as the technician who has to fix the breakdown, and the Mao Official on the second line can be seen as the other technician who intermediates in the situation. Something like that. I'm not sure.

The sixth line, being the last one, and with green dragon suggests me a high place, maybe climbing to the roof to pass the new cable/wire. the upper trigram is Gen (mountain) also suggests a roof.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on November 30, 2020, 12:00:59 PM
What happened here around 23 november I wonder?
Still no net?

Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Sacrar on November 30, 2020, 04:36:59 PM
What happened here around 23 november I wonder?
Still no net?

The technician came in day Chen, saturday (21/11). Approximately between Chen and Wu hours the repair was done and by Wu time I had internet (I wasn't at home, so I don't know for sure). The Yin-Wu-Xu SanHe would be formed by coming out of the void of Xu when it was clashed by Chen day?

One interesting thing... the regressing branches mean delay. An appointment was made for Friday, but the technician didn't come, to finally come the next day, Saturday, another/new technician. Other line comes with green dragon, as Jlim likes to use, among anothers things green dragon means new.
Title: Re: Line cut
Post by: Gmuli on November 30, 2020, 05:06:30 PM


The Yin-Wu-Xu SanHe would be formed by coming out of the void of Xu when it was clashed by Chen day?


Makes sense for me, yea.
Title: Another internet outage. when will I have internet again?
Post by: Sacrar on October 14, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
I had another internet outage. The terminal box on the street has a fault. The technicians came and instead of fixing the problem they created a bigger problem and the box was now without power. A total of six technicians came yesterday to fiddle with the terminal box. I don't know what kind of botched job they did. I don't know if they came together or separately and each one made a mess.

The technician told me that the problem caused was big. I found this out today from my technician.

On Friday the 13th I had the outage. I did the divination yesterday.

I asked, when will I have internet again?

(https://i.postimg.cc/50qw6VcH/screenshot-internet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrvSV2k1)

Mao Offspring changes to Officer, and this Wei Officer is wood tomb. It has the image that a solution becomes a problem (?)

I wonder if it is in Mao's day, but 10 days seems like an eternity to me...

Any comments would be appreciated.
Regards.