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General discussions => FREE Divination Request => Topic started by: DiegoFS on December 27, 2020, 05:58:26 AM
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Tientai and other companions of the Forum: for the moment I will leave you these links that will connect you to the most interesting videos that I found:
Master Gu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sOuAEygRPY
Master Damo Mitchell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acX1nCrZ2AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuA484T1CHM
Master Mantak Chia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glU3a4cGn1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc8NrfdNle8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzoPhu-Kr-Q
Master Mark Rasmus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kvCnUTMpjI
Master Zhixing Wang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCpaplH3d4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9S9-3SqJrU
Master Shi Heng Yi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpN3AcXLSSk
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...... I remember that around the year 2003, I was always filled with doubts and questions, especially because at the beginning you make mistakes and it is logical to assume that you walk on uncertain roads, only with time you acquire security and self-confidence. Sometimes when you make a mistake you start to value these techniques more, naturally you have to get up again.
Dear @DiegoFS ..
Thanks for your extended quoting concepts over this subject .. !!
One remark : what you mean with your above notice ?... I think is a typo error ..!!
I marked with red what isn't fitting well .
Thanks anyway
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Hello Tientai, I think I should start to seriously study English grammar, the truth is that my English is very poor and sometimes I do not coordinate the sentences with the correct sense, maybe some words do not have the purpose of my ideas, I apologize for that.
I will try to reorganize the idea expressed: when one begins to walk the Path of the Tao, you begin to change the Rules of the Game to your own Qi and in this sense it is as if the organism tries to reject the new guidelines and therefore mistakes are made (a times without being on purpose). I think that is the reason that in the Monasteries the novices withdraw more easily because they assume that they are not able to continue. Whoever wants to become a Lay Monk (who lives in a normal city and interacts with the other people in society), encounters this same problem. Only until you balance your own Qi can you truly achieve stability in this inner work.
I will try to express this idea with examples from everyday life:
A person who intends to dedicate himself to being a Marathon athlete will fail in his first attempts because his body is not used to running long distances; at the beginning you will only run 500 or a thousand meters and will have to stop, sit down, rest, to be able to continue. Only with the passage of months or one or two years of hard work and correct training techniques will you be able to run a full Marathon in decent form. Something similar happens with Qi Gong.
Let's look at another example, a baby who is learning to walk will need his mother or father to hold his hands at first, and from time to time he will fall to the ground, because he is just trying to walk, alone and by dint of effort and repeating the task, he will be able to walk. It will take weeks and months to achieve this. Something similar happens with the Internal Alchemy.
Another example: a person who is learning to cook, surely at first his food will burn, it will be salty or bad taste. Only with repetition and by using a trial and error model, you will achieve that your food is well prepared and tastes good. With Tai Chi Chuan the same thing happens.
The same happens with that person who is learning to drive a vehicle, at first they must go to a Driving Academy and receive classes and take a Guide by their side so as not to crash the vehicle. At first you will be clumsy to drive, but little by little you will get it right. Something similar happens in the Internal Martial Arts.
I believe that to achieve the Tao, especially in the beginning you must have a lot of Resilience to achieve goals.
In essence, Qi Gong, Internal Alchemy, Tai Chi Chuan, Bagua Zhang ... have the same purpose, regardless of the School or Technique you learn, they all have a common denominator redirecting the Qi. Therefore, it seems wrong to me that many practitioners of these Philosophical Models argue among themselves, each one believes that he is the best or does it better than his “rivals”. As long as the Goal is the same, everyone will be right.
Something I wanted to add: in Antiquity, many civilizations of the Ancient World handled these Tao techniques, each one according to their culture: the Incas in Peru, the Chibchas in my country, the Aztecs and Mayans in Central America, the Red Skin Indians in North America. The Etruscans, Greeks, Normans in Europe. The Egyptians, Chaldeans, Persians, in the near East, and a little further west did the Hindus and Tibetans. The Tao had many different names and models in the ancient world. What happens is that in Imperial China these techniques were taken to a very sophisticated level, I think that by race Asians have traditionally been very good observers of nature and very perfectionists when doing things. That is why the Tao is like the University of the Spiritual part, because the Techniques are very refined.
But in general, these techniques in ancient times were globalized.
Tientai, I hope you detail the Videos I sent you, while I look for more information.
Regarding the Covid, another piece of news appeared: in Malaysia and the Philippines (and neighboring countries), the D614G strain (seems to be a "sister" of the one that is circulating in Europe and the United Kingdom) is 10 times faster in transmission than the Traditional coronavirus.
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To Tien Tai and interested colleagues and based on this topic I will leave the name of two Reference Books:
THE INNER STRUCTURE of TAI CHI. Mantak Chia and Juan Li
IRON SHIRT CHI KUNG I. Mantak and Maneewan Chia.
They can be downloaded for free in pdf (I believe that the other Books of this Master Mantak Chia can also be downloaded for free). In them there is enough information about it and they are well explained.
The Damo Mitchell Books would have to be paid for in dollars, but in my view it is not mandatory to have them unless you want to become Advanced Masters of the Tao.
A hug for everyone.
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Dear @DiegoFS ..hi
I am much familiar with master Yang ch'I Ming's writings on Qi gong ..
He is the only one that reveal the source of his writings in Chinese quotations and translations ..!!
Perhaps you know this name ..
What is your opinion ?
Thanks ..
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Tientai,
Are you referring to Dr. Yang Jwing Ming?
ren
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Well, Tientai the truth is to the Master Yang Ch'i Ming I haven´t had it in my references, but according to what you say that he makes old bibliographic reviews in his writings, that implies that he is a very serious and reliable researcher.
Normally I have taken translations in my language (Spanish), with the idea of simplifying. Translating from another language takes a long time (although I sometimes take quotes, methods, key phrases and the like). However, I thank you for the information and I will try to review texts from Master Yang Ch'I Ming, in my spare time (or Yang Jwing Ming as Ren quotes).
To all these Masters, I have a Deep Veneration and Respect, regardless of the School where they are or lead. All these Taoist Masters (despite their invisible work and little recognized by the media), are an Axis and a Support of the Energy of the Planet, without these characters and their influence, this Modern Civilization would have already collapsed years ago.
It is curious that the Ecological and Environmental Protection Groups of the current World, assume that Global Warming, the Thawing of the Arctic and Antarctic Pole and the generation of this Pandemic and the next Pandemics that will be worse and more dramatic (as just recognize today, Mark Ryan, Head of the Emergency Program of the World Health Organization), the Burning of Forests and Jungle like the Amazon, are all related to Pollution from Factories and Heavy Industry. In reality, the Increase in Planetary Temperature is only partially related to Environmental Pollution, the REAL REASON for the collapse of the Environment is in a very high and critical percentage, due to the distancing of Humanity (99% I would say) of the Tao.
Humanity does not want to understand that Planet Earth is a Living Being and that between us Human Beings and Planet Earth we have a Spiritual Umbilical Cord that deeply unites us. And that as the Human Race moves further away from the Balance of the Tao, the planet not only suffers its direct consequences, but it "punishes" us in many ways. Suffice it to say that in about 25 years, all the volcanoes in the world will erupt at the same time (for this same reason) and the magnetic axis of the planet will turn violently 90 degrees, so that the Poles will be located on the Equatorial Line. and the tropics will remain where the current Poles are. It would even be interesting to ask our colleague Gilyotina who lives in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia, how the temperatures have been there lately, but I think that the polar cold is not as marked as before. In these coming years Siberia will become a Summer Zone like Miami (Florida, USA) or Rio de Janeiro (Brazil), in the end there will not be a single ice cube left.
By the year 2,050, each human being will be in their rightful place. But there is no doubt that the Mission of these Masters has an Invaluable Spiritual Qualification and much more in these times of chaos and uncertainty. Thanks for the information Tientai,…
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I'm big fan of Mantak Chia <3
I do just want to mention that in his system, after the healing sounds, the base is the microcosmic orbit/heavenly circle.
Much of the advanced practices(fusion of the 5 elements, lesser and greater Kan and Li etc.) suggest we already have opened it and isn't suppose to be done without that step.
(at least that was how it was 15-20 years ago, I assume still is)
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While on the topic I would mention the form that most resonates with me. There are a few people that teach it, the story exists in all of the books about it I think, basically its the same lineage and more or less the same place it started from for us.
I like Michael Winns way of presenting it, we can see the whole form here(at the second part of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGADkgSXLuQ
This was for corrections in his initial videos, where each step is explained and detailed in more depth, but at the end the whole form can be seen.
Its good stuff, in my humble opinion and I've been doing it for many, many years now.
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I want to present on more significant Master on Chinese Internal Nei dan arts ..
Is Master Lu Kuan Yu :
Charles Luk often used the title Upāsaka (居士), e.g. "Upāsaka Lu K'uan Yü" (陸寬昱居士), referring to his role as a devout lay follower of Buddhism. His first Buddhist teacher was a tulku of Esoteric Buddhism, the Khutuktu of Xikang. Later he became a disciple of Hsu Yun, the famous inheritor of all five houses of the Chán school in China.[1] Master Hsu Yun personally asked Charles Luk to translate key Chinese Buddhist texts into English, so that Western Buddhists could have access to authentic teachings to assist their practice. Upon his death in 1978, this task was taken on by his British disciple Richard Hunn (1949–2006), also known as Upasaka Wen Shu - who edited the 1988 Element edition of Charles Luk's book entitled Empty Cloud: The Autobiography of the Chinese Zen Master Xu Yun.
Some books from him :
Ch'an and Zen Teachings, First Series (1960),
Secrets of Chinese Meditation (1964)
Ch'an and Zen Teachings, Second Series (1971),
Practical Buddhism, Rider, (1971)
Ch'an and Zen Teachings, Third Series (1973),
Taoist Yoga : Alchemy And Immortality, (1973)
Empty Cloud: the Autobiography of the Chinese Zen Master Xu Yun (1974)
The Transmission of the Mind: Outside the Teaching (1974)
Master Hsu Yun's Discourses and Dharma Words (1996)
.. What I have marked with red are best liked me ..!!
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Yes, as for the quotes from Gmuli and Tientai, there are various Masters of the Tao, and all of them are valid, as long as one identifies with their philosophical schemes and their techniques, everything is fine. And as I mentioned, personally sometimes I mix several models and that does not lead to problems. The Tao has no side effects and is completely safe. Perhaps for a beginner if it is better to start with a single Technique and until you become more confident you can add other applications.
By the way, Master Mantak Chia is a world authority: he has been in practice for 70 years, which is a privilege for him, not all Masters have a record like this. From my point of view, he was marked by Master Pan Yu. His explanations are simple and straightforward (perhaps they criticize him that he does not speak English well, but if so, his books can be read). His 11-year-old son Max became the youngest known Tao Instructor in this modern age.
One detail, if you watch the Mantak Chia videos, you can easily detail that you notice many fewer years than you actually have accumulated in your real calendar. That shows that he is a True Inner Alchemy Master. A person who has already accumulated at least 5 continuous years of practice begins to rejuvenate; if not, your internal work is limited or you are not doing it thoroughly.
Another advantage of Mantak Chia is that his wife Maneewan, originally from Hong Kong and a specialist in Taoist and Natural Nutrition, is an expert in Female Taoism. So the girls who want to learn and practice the Feminine Tao, in the writings of Mantak Chia, will also find a Woman Teacher providing her personal keys. That is a plus and added value.
Master Mantak Chia, assures that one must have studied about 20 Books to fully master the Tao, surely it is true, but it is also true that with 3 or 4 Books you can take these practices to a higher average level and that is more than Enough, unless you want to achieve Total Enlightenment and you want to become a Super Man Master or in a Super Female Master. But no matter how many books are studied, the most important thing is to PRACTICE every day.
And in general, spiritual advancement depends on many other variables, for example, proper nutrition, how you manage your own stress (meditation techniques), where you live (is not the same the person who lives in a building in New York, to another that lives close to the countryside and nature). It does not mean that a person who lives around the smog of cities and amidst the tumults of vehicles, cannot advance spiritually, but he will undoubtedly walk more slowly and will have to redouble his efforts; and to some extent, advancements that have been made in past lives help too.
Now, it should not be an excuse either, to suppose that if I live in a congested mega-city, I should just sit back and do nothing. It is better to do some Tao than to do absolutely nothing.
And finally, in the case of a beginner, to have a moderate protection against Coronavirus, you must accumulate between 3 to 6 months of practice. The younger you start the better. And the more years of practice you have, the more protected you will be against a Pandemic. A Taoist woman is usually more advanced than a man, but it is all about personal commitment and not gender.
To Gmuli and Tientai, thanks for the contributions, participation and comments. Hopefully the women of the Forum will also join and participate. We are missing the Yin Energy in these comments. Remember that the Tao is not a Machista Movement, on the contrary it is Universal. Yin and Yang play simultaneously to set up the Tai Chi.
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To All,
I would like to share some of my history and some qi gong sites I like.
Within our 5Arts community, we have a number of acupuncturist – included me. I have practiced qigong and martial arts for many years. The qigong sect I am associated with is associated with one of the four sacred Buddhist mountains in China. My instructor also introduced me to Bazi. My current practice mainly includes the 8 brocade and the five element qigong forms. All the qigong forms I practice are mostly as I was taught.
I still practice acupuncture, but I am currently working within the Public Health sector – assisting people in isolation or quarantine due to the covid-19 virus. Very humbling work.
This is a decent version of the 8 brocade exercise. I specifically appreciate how the presenter describes the exercise.
Kaizen Sensei learned that the Chinese art of Baduanjin Qigong helps build your immune system against the COVID-19 or coronavirus. There is no cure nor will this exercise prevent it. Your best bet is prevention. So, practice social distancing. Wash your hands. Avoid crowded areas. Stay home, eat healthy, get 7-8 hours of sleep daily, avoid stress (yes, I said that), pray, meditate and practice baduanjin! Actually, any reasonable exercise you can do a home will do the trick! Be well. Be safe.
I will add wear a face mask or face covering when out in public or when in close distance with other people.
https://youtu.be/AFk6lgZAU4k
I just found this today – I may not care for his exercises but I like what he is sharing.
https://youtu.be/VKRdUe2_SB0
I personal really like this guy's stuff – unfortunately I couldn't find his 5 element and 8 brocade stuff on youtube today. I have it on a usb drive. He is a practical, no fluff instructor.
https://youtu.be/593S0-_b7Do
This guy has a lot of stuff on youtube, he is also an acupuncturist. I am not a fan of the long hour long videos, but there is some interesting stuff. So if I see him, I may skip watch.
https://youtu.be/BC9MvsxZrW4
For you Gmuli and thanks...
https://youtu.be/89Tc8V2_3yU
Please lets keep this conversation going.
ren
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...Just to add,
This is Master Ralphael Rodriguez. He was part of the Young Lords back in the 70's in the South Bronx. He was also part of the early members of the world famous Lincoln Hospital Acupuncture program (with Dr Smith). He did not eventually license in acupuncture, but his qigong and street acupuncture!!!. He also trained in Tai Chi (etc) with Master Jou Tsung Hwa... many of us are familiar with his books.
I learned this form from Mr Rodriguez.
https://youtu.be/23bPUN0ueA8
peacefully,
ren
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KO41uRt9MME
Authentic wu dang Qi gong.
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ren:
Its very good!
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The contributions are interesting ...
Ren: I see that you handle the systems of the 5 Elements and 8 Trigrams (Wǔháng Bāguà Qìgōng 五行 八卦 氣功) and the 8 Pieces of Brocade (Bā Duàn Jǐn 八段 錦), however and since you are in permanent and close contact with people infected with Coronavirus, according to you comment: you work in Public Health, you are in greater danger of contagion, in that case, you should apply the System of the 8 Curious Vessels or Bar of the 8 Pulses as a reinforcement (Bā Mài Zhàng Gōng 八脉 杖 功) , it is usually called this way because a wooden cane is used with the movements (the Videos are easy to get on the Internet) and at the end of this practice apply pressure with the fingertips on the points that I am going to write down here ( I will list the Acupuncture Points in order, that is, you must follow the sequence):
1. Gallbladder 41 (Descent of Tears or Zu Lin Qi) of the Left Foot
2. Triple Function or San Jiao 5 (External Barrier or Bai Guan) of the Right Arm
3. Bladder 62 (Start of Pulse or Shen Mai) of Left Foot
4. Small Intestine 3 (Continuity of the Torrent or Hou Xi) of the Right Hand
5. Lung 7 (Supreme Gorge or Lie Que) of the Left Arm
6. Kidney 6 (Luminous Sea or Zhao Hai) of the Right Foot
7. Pericardium or Heart Master 6 (Great Plateau or Da Ling) of the Left Arm
8. Spleen Pancreas 4 (Universal Offering or Gong Sun) of the Right Foot
This sequence is for a man. In the case of a woman, the Ba Gua of the Previous Heaven is reversed, which means that these same Acupuncture Vortices are used but it begins with the Right Foot and ends with the Left Foot.
Then you rest for a minute and start with another sequence:
Stomach 30, the Assault of the Breath or Qi Chong (left and right side). Kidney 13, Cave of the Blow or Qi Xue (left and right side). Kidney 14, Essence Deposit or Sai Fu (left and right side). Ren Mai 4 (Barrier of the Source or Guan Yan), Ren Mai 6 (Sea of Breath or Qi Hai) and Gallbladder 39, Suspended Bell or Gua Zhong (left and right side). If you prefer, you can include the Path of the Marrow Masters, in that case: Gallbladder 39 (Suspended Bell or Gua Zhong), Bladder 11 (Large Shuttle or Da Zhu), Bladder 23 (Transport to Offer in Kidney or Shen Shu), Du Mai 16 (Wind Workshop or Feng Fu). These last three Points are also transport loops or UI.
With all this circuit there is an increase in the concentration of Antibodies and a strengthening of the Immune System. This means that it acts as a Natural and Powerful Vaccine against Covid-19. The more Internal Qi you have accumulated in your Three Sān Bǎo 三宝 Treasures, the better. And that's one way for you to strengthen your protection against the Pandemic. In addition, as you handle acupuncture, it is easier for you to put it into practice. The Tui Na Massage Techniques apply here.
In the second sequence, if you prefer, there is an Alternative Highway, which would be:
Ren Mai 4 (Barrier of the Source or Guan Yan), Stomach 36 (this is the famous: Divine Indifference or Zu San Li), Large Intestine 4 (Bottom of the Valley or He Gu, also known as Mouth of the Tiger or Hu Kou), Liver 3 (Supreme Assault or Tai Chong), Liver 8 (Source of the Sinuous Curve or Qu Quan), Pericardium or Heart Master 8 (Palace of Fatigue or Lao Gong), Kidney 2 (Valley of Approval or Ran Gu, sometimes appears as Dragon of Deep Water or Long Yuan), Kidney 3 (Supreme Torrent or Tai Xi), Kidney 5 (Origin of Water or Shui Quan), Spleen Pancreas 3 (Supreme Brilliance or Tai Bai), Spleen Pancreas 6 ( Inherit the Decree of Heaven or Crossing of the Three Yin or San Yin Jiao). With the exception of Ren Mai 4 which corresponds to the axial axis, the other Vortices are taken from the left and right side, that is, in bilateral acupressure.
In the BaZi Four Pillars Astrology Reading, I often use Chinese Acupuncture formats as well. And likewise, I usually mix the Acupuncture Doctrine with Homotoxicological Homeopathy in Alternative Therapies. But it is also very effective, mixing Classical Acupuncture with Internal Alchemy. In the Five Arts sometimes you need to combine everything.
Now, according to The Woods Hole Research Center in Massachusetts, the United States Geological Survey and the Arctic Pole Research Program, they have very well referenced the Permafrost Melting of the North Pole (what happens is that the Polar Vortex is masking the phenomenon), with which 1,500 million Tons of Carbon and 1,650,000 Tons of Mercury are being melted, in addition to Methane Gas and Carbon Dioxide, with which the ice is turning into bubbling water as if it were a huge jacuzzi. We must bear in mind that the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the rest of the world, due to the loss of solar reflectivity. EMERGING VIRUSES are being COOKED in that hot water at the North Pole. Scientists know, this is not a Myth, it is a reality. In simpler words, in the Arctic Pole new Emerging Viruses are being prepared and that when they mutate and leave there they will spread throughout the world will be much more Powerful and Lethal than the Coronavirus. In a few years, perhaps by 2,023 or 2,024 a new Virus will emerge (we still do not know what it will be called) that will become another Pandemic more deadly than this one, so that the Coronavirus will become a simple and modest flu compared to what coming. And in the following years many more will come. This is the harsh reality of ecological events and the imbalance of the Planetary Tao.
That is why Qi Gong will be our defense weapon against Pandemics (there will come a time when masks will be pure garbage), good at least for those of us who love the Tao. Others will cling to Buddhism.
There is NO girl to join us with her comments in this link? None? Not even one? should we scream? anyone there?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0AZU8S9F0yI
Powerful Qi gong master John Chang.
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I have talked with people that could do similar stuff... Interesting detail is that they "unlocked" it from seminars related to Castanedas teaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda)
I guess the idea is that there are many paths that can lead to similar results sometimes.
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Gmuli, as I have already mentioned, in principle I used Buddhism which handles only one type of hot energy, which implies long-term difficulties.
With Taoism, you have the advantage of segmenting the Qi into 3 Temperatures: Hot, Warm and Cold. Personally, I bring 15% of the Moderate Energy to the Middle Qi (Heart - Fire) and 85% of the Hot and Cold Energy to the Dan Tien (Solar Plexus) in two times.
Sometimes I carry a part of the Qi to my arms (something similar to what Hellow shows, in reference to the Video of Master John Chang), which is a fairly common Technique in the Ba Gua Zhang and some styles of Tai Chi. By the way, it is very useful, for acquire skill in the application of the Tui Na Massages or in the Reading of the Hexagrams of the I Ching, or to place Acupuncture needles. When Energy is carried in the arms, it must be carried in a curled manner, so that it can walk with force and power.
But, when the Qi is distributed by compartments and using the aforementioned 15% -85%, you completely balance your Chackras and most importantly, you generate a Balance that avoids the aforementioned Adverse Effects.
The Tan Tien Half (Heart) is very delicate because in that area is the Ministerial Fire of the San Jiao and the Water and Fire Modulator Axis that commands the Mind and therefore, if you send all the Energy there it will cause a lot of concern, stress and in the end you end up damaging your spiritual work. With Long Term Yoga it is even worse, because the Energy disperses and you end up losing all Control of the Qi.
The distribution by compartments (15% -85%) I have been using it for several years, and I can assure you that it is totally safe and reliable and most importantly, it is the most advanced way of applying the Internal Alchemy. For my part, I feel Totally HAPPY with this Technique, beyond what a Qi Gong Master mention one thing, and another Tai Chi Master teach something different. The Schools of Nei Dan are never going to agree. From my point of view, with the Practice, you make the adjustments that you consider convenient, until you find the Perfect Balance. It is not favorable to get entangled with so much Theory.
Likewise, with the Tao you should try to feel HAPPY with yourself, and avoid that the Technique becomes a Torture, regardless of the mixture of Methods you adopt.
If one is not HAPPY with the Tao, it means that something is being done wrong and in that case, the correctives must be applied. Our Body is not only an Internal Temple, but it is also a miniature Laboratory, and sometimes you have to experiment until you find the Perfect Measure of Personal Work. Mastery is achieved by acquiring Wisdom and from there, reach the Ideal Balance Point.
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It is not favorable to get entangled with so much Theory.
While I do somewhat agree with the rest, here is where we differ. In my view, we need to understand the process perfectly. Practice is only a tool, to help with that understanding. Once we fully understand it, then little effort can make some impressive results.
What part of that you call "theory" I don't know, or care. But I know that practicing inner alchemy without having a clear view of how it works for us, while it may work for a few, I can't see it working for many in the long run.
Not to mention just a step after the microorbit we have the fusion of the five elements, to be able to get that working it will need so much stuff to remember and place, that what we have mention so far is more or less, not a lot...
We are in the forums for the Five Arts and we write in English... That already suggest we got the idea that we want to know how it works, in more depth then most people do.
In that sense, even though I do like Kabbalah and I'm aware in the Ecclesiastes we have the idea of :
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief."
I will still go for understanding as deep as possible, everything I find worth knowing, at least for now. ; )
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Gmuli, you should be a little more open to debate, I see that you are very sensitive and easily angered. Don't confuse Destructive Criticism with Constructive Criticism. First of all I try to put in order the Body of Doctrine of the Tao, for your own Spiritual benefit. With much affection I tell you, so that you advance in your Evolution, and the least I want is to harm you. If my comments regard it as a persecution, you are wrong. And I repeat Gmuli, what I write here I do with a lot of dearness and without any destructive sense, unless you feel it that way.
In some comment I have stated it, my Direct Teacher and of High Initiation in this life, was the Reincarnation of the Yellow Emperor, and do not think that he consented to his Students (in Latin America there were about 5,000 followers approximately). Sometimes he was too drastic with us, despite his humility. And today despite the fact that 15 years have passed since his death, I would give anything to be next to Him receiving His teachings and I would exchange it for all the Spirituality Books of the World. Gmuli: when you are next to a True Master He burns you with his Power and with his Golden Word. And it is the only way to assimilate a Doctrine and put it into Practice.
I tell you, because as you are so sensitive, you would not have been with the Yellow Emperor not even 24 hours (you wouldn´t have put up with it) who by the way was 100% enemy of all theories of the modern world.
For example, you quote something like "the heart can override signals from the brain" as you say from a study of a theory from the Hearthmath Institute. And I tell you that it is a theory, because in reality exactly the opposite happens, the heart is the organ that lights up the brain. The Doctrine of Traditional Chinese Medicine has established this for thousands of years.
Another theory that you quote is that: "Taoism and Buddhism avoid Fire." The reality is different, all the Schools of Taoism and Buddhism in the world work with the Inner Fire, each in its own way and style.
Another theory that you relate is about "the Mapping of Past Incarnations" based on "people who used some systems without the heart and how many incarnations they needed to achieve to let go of control and discover how important the heart part really is." I say to you that this is 100% a Theory, because whoever keeps working in any number of incarnations without the heart is never going to assume spiritual control. The Doctrine says exactly the opposite.
As I see that you quote to the Ecclesiastes as part of the Kabbalah and you tell me: “because with a lot of Wisdom comes a lot of pain; the more knowledge the more pain ”. This phrase is 100% false, because it is 100% a Theory of those religious translators who have plagiarized and adulterated these books for thousands of years. I am surprised that you haven't realized yet that the Bible is the Most Adulterated Book in the World. With respect for the inhabitants of Israel, at this moment it is one of the countries that has the have most Coronavirus in the world, in more concrete terms, it means that they are working with a Theoretical Cabal. If they were working on the true Doctrine of Kabbalah, the Jewish people would have few infections from Covid at this time. And that has happened because the religious leaders of the Synagogues have misrepresented the authentic Kabbalah to their accommodation, adulterating their writings and to the detriment of their people and the current levels of contagion of said pandemic clearly demonstrate this. As Jesus Christ said: "by their fruits you will know them."
The reality is that "Wisdom takes you away from pain and the more sacred knowledge you have, the less pain you will suffer." Wisdom is the Internal Knowledge turned into Practice.
In essence the Theories end up becoming Dogmas and Dogmas take you over time to Religious Fanaticism and move you further and further away from the Truth of the Doctrine.
If from your point of view you need to hold on to enough Theories to achieve Wisdom, do it, you have your free will to decide that way. If that makes you happy, no one is going to blame you.
On the other hand, Tientai I see that you have the great privilege of be a married man, your wife is the Yin that balances your Tao and your Supreme Tai Chi. Anyway, it is good that you study well the works of Mantak Chia, for married people (in these texts, Maneewan Chia, his wife and Dr. Rachel Carlton Abrams appear), which will clear many doubts and facilitate your Taoist Marriage advancement. I see that in your experiences there are some related and interesting references. The important thing is that you do not feel afraid. The important thing, Tientai, is that you carefully analyze the advice of Master Mantak Chia and his wife, who are quite explicit about it. But it would be desirable to include certain guidelines and make some adjustments exposed in these Books in order to balance specific sequences of the Doctrine (of what you just shared with us). I also congratulate you because you tune into this Wisdom of the Tao and that by itself makes a difference.
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Why would I be open to debate, though...
You aren't here to learn anything, as all this seems just "theories" for you, as your point of view seems to be the only "fact".
At this time I disagree with around 90% of what you posted, yet the post is long, so it will take many pages to go into each aspect of that...After I do reply it with many pages, I can expect another gigantic post with even more pages, that I will again have to read and reply to...
And most of all it will be pointless. As I said before - there is nothing I can learn from you. I know the people I can learn from, that stuff can be sensed clearly at this step of the way, and right now you aren't one of them. I don't think you will ever be, as you aren't pass what is sometimes called "the mirroring sphere", if you studied Kabbalah I could probably clarify more, but it will take a while now, and you will just think its a "theory", so again no point.
You can't learn from me, either, as everything I can possible say, you will take as a "theory" then compare it to some crap you think as "the truth!" and discard it right away if it doesn't fit, or feel happier for the crap if it does... All of this are your problems that doesn't really concern me in any way...
And making all this a gigantic waste of time for me. For you as well.
So why would I be open to debate?Won't bring any of us anything good...
Yet I'm trying to write in a more friendly way, so lets try a debate then, as pointless as it would be.
But there have to be rules.
Choose one of the topics, write your point of view to in in a short way and I will respond and lets see where it goes. Only 1 topic, however, currently you have around 10 or more topics at the same time in each post, I don't have the time or reason to try to cover all that.
So lets debate, 1 topic, short posts(as much as we can) choose one and lets go. The Torah seems a good idea, as even though I disagree with most of what you said, my disagreement there reaches gigantic proportions... But since you want a debate you choose, I don't get much out of this anyway...
P.S. Its not only sensitivity, the sensitivity is only the part where I can sense that what you are presenting isn't what I'm interested in. The other part is just a lot of lack of interest.
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2 days later, you are answering other stuff, so obviously no debate... Its for the best, I enjoy that in Five Arts related forums people avoid being that direct... Although, in forums related to western or even middle eastern systems we often are...
It makes sense to me, as at the end of the day, another good response would be that my sensitivness or desire for "debate" was none of your business to begin with..
At this point, seems good time to move on. : )
I will go back to keeping my distance from you here, this time hoping you will respect that, as I do have my reasons. And even though the forum isn't that big I think we can manage to avoid each other and keep doing what we find meaning in.
All the best from me and hopefully this is our last exchange here.