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Title: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 13, 2018, 10:55:11 AM
Hi guys.
For a guy who like to take short cut on his work. he is not good at following rules and always get into trouble. what will be his hour?
He was jobless in 2014 to 2015. he found a job in 2016 jan.

march 16 1971

ren geng xin xin
wu zi  mao hai    or

gui geng xin xin
wei zi mao hai.

he got himself into trouble again in feb this year which is a full jai/yin wood pillar.



Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: seekingc on March 13, 2018, 09:01:17 PM
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Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 14, 2018, 03:07:19 AM
Hi seekingc
Tks for your input. He does have many bad habits like coming late for work, having difficulty taking order from his boss or supervisor... He likes spent time chatting with his colleague and treat them with small gift. Usually that come with request for some form of helps in return.

I wonder if he has any true friends in his work place? What will be his worst HS elements in your opinion?
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 14, 2018, 03:17:27 AM
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Summary:
At first it looks like this is a gang of metal, water against wood. But now it looks like Geng-Zi rejects the entire chart. Why the entire chart? Because hai-mao-wei is one gang and DM rejects wei and mao which is part of hai-mao-wei wood gang. This is of course if it is wei hour  :)
I like your summary.

Wei hour seems to fit his character. (Geng-Zi reject entire chart) what does that mean in his current life?
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 14, 2018, 04:05:24 PM
Hi NewMan, you don't know his birth hour and city? Maybe this can help to decide on the hour:

march 16 1971

      DM
ren geng xin xin
wu   zi  mao hai      Good with foreign languages.

gui geng xin xin
wei  zi  mao hai.      Not good with foreign languages.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 14, 2018, 04:16:11 PM
Tks Jlim for your help.
He isnt good at any languages. Not even chinese. Basically not good at school exam.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 14, 2018, 04:20:28 PM
Then the Wei hour, which seekingc also thinks so.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 14, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
Just curious. Why would ren/wu hour be gd at foreign languages? How does the horse help him in this case?                                                                                                                                                                           
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: vng on March 15, 2018, 05:03:28 PM
Just curious. Why would ren/wu hour be gd at foreign languages? How does the horse help him in this case?                                                                                                                                                                           
Because Ren as output can represent speaking.
Ren located in hour also confirms that it is related to mouth as hour pillar is the location for head, face, etc.
Finally, Ren performs work with Wu horse so such person would be good at speaking and often has foreign language abilities.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: J27945 on March 15, 2018, 05:26:25 PM
agree with vng (not from a mangpai, perspective thou)。
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: OlSpica on March 16, 2018, 12:06:26 AM
From MP perspectives : Ren is Eating God, and Shi Shen ( EG) in Hour performing work (Ren Wu is self-combining pillar)  stands for abilities to foreign languages, skills. Shi Shan performing work belongs to intelligent people - it does not look like this DM is intelligent with a good education. I am joining JLim, Vince  - Gui Wei is a better choice.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Miss A on March 16, 2018, 07:06:20 AM
Hi to everybody!
Chart 1
Ren Geng Xin Xin
Wu Zi  Mao Hai
     
In chart 1 Guan Sha Wu is well-controlled by Zi-Mao-Hai and self-combination with Ren. He could have his own business and the quality of the chart is higher. 

Chart 2
Gui Geng Xin Xin
Wei Zi Mao Hai

In chart 2 DM Geng produces Shang Guan Gui but Gui does not do anything – this is major drawback. That is why he is bad with any languages. Seal Wei is harmed by Zi  - education suffers.
Wei-Mao and Wei-Hai is work. But Mao as Cai is in contradiction. 2015 is the arrival of this contradiction as a result he is jobless. Chart 1 has no such thing. 

JLim  and all, please correct me if needed.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 16, 2018, 03:16:06 PM
Hi to everybody!
Chart 1
Ren Geng Xin Xin
 Wu Zi   Mao Hai
     
In chart 1 Guan Sha Wu is well-controlled by Zi-Mao-Hai and self-combination with Ren. He could have his own business and the quality of the chart is higher. 
Wu is still not well-controlled due to Mao.  This is a better chart than Gui Wei hour, but may be not that good to have a good business of his own. Hai does not perform work.

Chart 2
Gui Geng Xin Xin
 Wei Zi  Mao Hai

In chart 2 DM Geng produces Shang Guan Gui but Gui does not do anything – this is major drawback. That is why he is bad with any languages. Seal Wei is harmed by Zi  - education suffers.
That's right, Gui not doing anything is a major drawback.  Well, he can still talk-talk-talk...   But yes, education suffers a lot! Seal Wei is harmed by Zi, you're right!

Wei-Mao and Wei-Hai is work. But Mao as Cai is in contradiction. 2015 is the arrival of this contradiction as a result he is jobless. Chart 1 has no such thing. 
Wei-Mao and Wei-Hai are not work processes, because Zi-Mao (Po) and Zi-Wei (Hai/harm) making a mess of those work processes. 

Yes, Mao as Cai is in contradiction --> difficult to make and keep money.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 16, 2018, 05:12:00 PM
So his xin/mao mth pillar can be read as he love to make friends. But the process of making friends hurt his wealth. Or he has to spent lots of money making friends. Is that right? What about xin/hai. What can we tell about it?                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 17, 2018, 07:20:52 AM
What about his current LP Bing/xu?
Bing is his 7k. Like what seekingc had said xu punish wei combo with mao. what can we expect from this LP?
His current operation manager will be back next week. Will next monday be a tough day for him? Current mth is yi/mao. Yi combine with geng forming more Geng. Xu combo away mao. What does it mean to him?

Next monday will be:
Geng/Xu day
Yi/mao mth
wu/xu year
Will Geng/Xu day good for him?
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 17, 2018, 06:02:09 PM
His current operation manager will be back next week. Will next monday be a tough day for him? Current mth is yi/mao. Yi combine with geng forming more Geng. Xu combo away mao. What does it mean to him?
We need to combine his Bazi and his manager's Bazi (which he would not know anyway) on a very short time frame (day outlook). I think a divination could be more straightforward for this case.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 18, 2018, 10:01:56 AM
His current operation manager will be back next week. Will next monday be a tough day for him? Current mth is yi/mao. Yi combine with geng forming more Geng. Xu combo away mao. What does it mean to him?
We need to combine his Bazi and his manager's Bazi (which he would not know anyway) on a very short time frame (day outlook). I think a divination could be more straightforward for this case.
Does it mean if his O. M HAS His favourable elements chances are high that he will get away with just a light warning?                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                     
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 28, 2018, 07:41:26 AM
Some update.
He didn't get fired. He managed to explain himself out of his situation and have now changed his work attitude. He said he got advice from his friend who is also his section supervisor before his meeting with his Operation Manager. He got a warning and he promised to change that it.

I think his current LP is favorable to him. What you think?   
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 28, 2018, 07:59:19 AM
Thank you for the update. Keeping the job is good because the current economic condition over there must not be so favorable.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Rhizome on March 28, 2018, 02:25:56 PM
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Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 28, 2018, 04:36:54 PM
Hi Rhizome.
Tks for taking interest in this chart.
I would said he got more easy life in this current job. He basically got bad work relationship with his immediate supervisor. He is someone who cant follow rules and like to take short cut. He has better relation with his colleagues. Sometime will gang up to play tricks to his supervisor.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Rhizome on March 28, 2018, 05:09:12 PM
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Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on March 29, 2018, 02:09:45 AM
If you are working with him, basically you have to tolerate lots of his bad habits. There will be some who can and some who disliked him.
Any reason for asking this? :)                                                                                                         
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Rhizome on April 28, 2018, 10:43:30 PM
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Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on November 09, 2018, 02:32:48 AM
Just some update.
An incident occurred on

28 Sept 2018 2114
gui gui xin wu
hai hai you xu 

3days later he went to office and send in his resign letter giving a 1 mth notice.

Resigned date 01 Oct 2018
*** Bing xin wu
*** yin you xu

On the 16 oct 2018 he was told by his operation manager not to come to work that day and to report to H.Q on 17 oct to surrender his company I.D card.

What can we tell from this date effect on him?
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on January 30, 2019, 03:38:47 PM
Hi guys how are you.
Was learning some new things and someone mention about finding the soul of the chart. Have anyone know of this or have a clear definition of it?
 Tks.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Gmuli on February 02, 2019, 12:17:05 AM
Hi guys how are you.
Was learning some new things and someone mention about finding the soul of the chart. Have anyone know of this or have a clear definition of it?
 Tks.

Life Pillar does a good job to give some hint on what the essence of the life will revolve around from my point of view(others would disagree, as it is not easy to see it, even more so for ppl we don't know).


Then Pillar of Conception Aura as it is made from the elements that would combine with the Day Pillar, can be viewed as what is needed for union / fullness.
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on February 03, 2019, 05:59:20 AM
There are just a few hints on these 2 extra pillars. Not much is written about it used. Does Manpai find it usefull?
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: Gmuli on February 03, 2019, 12:08:27 PM
There are just a few hints on these 2 extra pillars. Not much is written about it used. Does Manpai find it usefull?

I don't think they do. Street blind practitioners use them apparently, but that is very different style(as they use a lot of Na Yin, Shen Sha and other stuff).
I don't use them a lot too.

And the Soul...
Relation to our Soul is complicated(for most of humanity, anyway). As the connection to it is very different depending on our understanding and the way we function here(electromagnetic flow in our bodies etc.)

For example we can look at the experience that could be gathered while living/experiencing on Earth as represented by 6 steps, what in the esoteric schools is viewed as Initiation.
Each initiation is changing completely how the flow in our bodies will move... That changes everything, from the way we view existence and Source/God/Way etc. to how our chakras function.

The Soul for example initially we can connect as a point in our Prana Channel above our head(around 20cm for most people). However, as someone takes 3th initiation(something that through the changes last few decades humanity have taken collectively, but haven't integrated yet), the Heart and Throat chakra merge forming a very big center called "Cosmic Heart" in upper part of our chest.

At 3th initiation when that "space" is created, the Soul comes down merging with the Cosmic Heart and anchoring strongly into the Thymus Gland. At that point on any rules we will use for it will change, as the light in us functions in a different way.


So my idea is that humanity relation to its Soul(collective and individual) is a lot more complicated then it may seem and I'm not sure we can follow all that from any astrological or similar system, as they are catching the moment the Soul becomes represented here... Above is more subtle and difficult to fully get without using very different terminology and a lot different ways for gathering knowledge(much more related to meditation and inner path). Both have their place of course, just not fully flowing into each other yet. Someday, hopefully...

I'm not sure this is for here... But this is about the Soul and how it functions, and this is what the question was about... So why not...
Title: Re: Which hour to take?
Post by: NewMan on February 04, 2019, 01:36:39 PM
I cant verify what you said above is true. But i believed you have a strong passion for spiritual knoweledge.Salute you.🙏