Quote from: azizfrost on August 17, 2023, 01:25:24 PM

I have another follower chart. But im not sure if follower or not.

is she also a follower chart? she is not very lucky. single mom, got pregnant early then later got divorced. financially unstable.

The comparison is not quite apple to apple, because her chart is either "mixed follower type" or "output follower type".

As long as the decade luck doesn't give her supportive elements, she will be fine. If supportive elements only appears on the stem, that's also fine.

Her decade luck is mostly unfavorable. 0-16 is good, 47-56 is decent and most importantly, 77 onward looks great if she's able to live that long.

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Chen-Chou destruction = Earth produce Metal produce Water produce Wood. If wood is being produced isn't it one of her useful elements? being a strong DM?

I wonder about this.
Can we use Hidden Stems like that in combinations as well(follow produce cycle).

For example Wu - Wei.
Fire in Wu, Wood produces the Fire, Fire produces the Earth. Yet 2 fire stems. So we have a lot of fire and end of the produce cycle in Earth.

So combination creates fire.

Looking at it it seems all except Mao-Xu and Zi-Chou fit into this.
But we can say that Yi wood is diplomatic, so when all is against it is its best time to work. No idea for Zi-Chou and why that would create Earth...

Its very interesting, may explain much of the interactions and dynamic and also can point out to the exceptions to check why. : )

What do you think, could it work for the other stuff(combinations etc)?

Quote from: azizfrost on August 17, 2023, 02:40:38 PM

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Quote from: azizfrost on August 17, 2023, 01:29:49 PM

Chen-Chou destruction = Earth produce Metal produce Water produce Wood. If wood is being produced isn't it one of her useful elements? being a strong DM?

Like on a strong wood DM with Chou-Chen-Wei-Xu clash. the clash outcome is pure earth. so the strong wood DM can become very wealthy.

I didn't know destruction can produce an element, just like a combination.

Anyway, I think the end result should be either water/metal to make her a strong water DM.

I just read it somewhere. I'm not sure either. 

need someone to confirm 

Haven't read it all, but just to comment on that. I don't think it 'produces' element like combination can do.
I think it just means 2 things that are suppose to produce each other, that doesn't, because each views themselves as valuable(and value=asset=not moving).

That is why Metal and Water are different, as in that part of the movement(going within) the environment is usually darker and colder, so even valuable things have to work together.

That being said... If two things stay close to each other for long enough something third will be created one way or another. So technically we could view it that there is a product. But is it the same each time and wouldn't it be confusing to add product on destruction are also interesting questions.
For me - I don't use the idea they create another element. I do for combinations now, however(as I didn't before).

Quote from: azizfrost on August 17, 2023, 12:05:33 PM

Hi. why is month pillar vulnerable? what does that mean?

does it concern about her parents?

There is Chen-Chou destruction, right? Clash, unfavorable combo, punishment may injure that pillar too.

Month pillar is typically related to early adulthood. It can be related to anything: parents, school, health.

Quote from: azizfrost on August 17, 2023, 10:02:08 AM

so this chart have power and money all her life?

Most of her life. Geng Shen LP could be the most vulnerable period for her chart. She will be in her mid 80s, if she manages to reach that age.

Quote from: azizfrost on August 16, 2023, 04:02:36 PM

isn't it from 46 onwards it becomes a weak chart? water on the 10 yr luck pillar only shows when she is 46?

Yi Chou will sabotage her favorable elements to some extent. Chou clashes Wei and harms Wu. Yi weakens Ji.

Being a pure/stable follower chart, I think it will remain quite durable against all water/metal decade luck. Not easily get broken by clashes, combos, harms, punishment.

It may just become a slightly weak chart.

Looks like a power follower structure, which means her chart loves fire and earth.

Supportive elements will break this structure. From age 35 onward, it becomes a weak chart.

My question is... how to mitigate all the negativity that may arise from a weak chart?

I imagine she gets married into a rich and powerful family by that time. So her weak chart simply means she retires from her job or she quits all her desire as she can just depend on her husband forever.