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Online nin99

the dead of christian oliver
« on: January 10, 2024, 08:32:26 AM »
his chart

ren gui ren ren
zi    si   yin   si

the lp of his dead wu shen lp

It is thought to be born in the middle of the night with the rat clock. The year and the hour flank the Tiger and the Snake, the two interacting Chuan. The Yin Tiger is an age star that is driven by the water element (水多木漂), it can depict its age floating in the air. This kind of combination does not like the presence of the Shen Monkey, because it will form a Sanxing interaction that threatens his life.

The first year of the Earth Monkey period, namely Water Tiger 2022 was helped by the appearance of Ren, nothing bad happened. However, the appearance of Gui, who was present with Rabbit, has formed a very bad Zi Mao Po combination. So it happened that San Xing was present with Po on Jiazi month and Dingmao day, so the plane crash occurred.

In the Yin and Si mutual Chuan there are two female stars (Guan), therefore two daughters also died because they were on the plane with their father.

I read his daymaster as strong-that need fire-
the major change was from fire lp wealth and power to resource pillar-read he s gui si daymaster,although not in born in season to be a very powerful water daymaster-same daymaster like other movie star like dwayne johnson or jackie chan-
with this zi-major clash by ap-mao zi harm -and new lp all he s pillars from he s natal chart are heavely clash

AS TOLD BEFORE to be worry if meet lp that clash month pillar oter 50 that lp-will conquer month pillar like shen -yin -si -fire punishement


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Re: the dead of christian oliver
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2024, 01:14:08 PM »
see my AI reply===>The interpretation you provided has some interesting points, but there are also areas where I might have a different perspective, especially regarding the interpretation of clashes and the overall impact on the person's fate.

### 1. **Strength of the Daymaster (壬癸日主)**
   The writer interprets the person’s daymaster (壬癸) as strong, needing fire to balance it out. This interpretation seems reasonable given that the person has multiple water elements in the chart (壬癸) and is born in the 子 (rat) hour, which strengthens water. However, without a full elemental balance (金生水, 土克水, 火制水, 木泄水), I would need to analyze the entire chart carefully to determine the exact strength.

   - Fire (火) is commonly seen as necessary to balance excessive water, but it depends on how strong the water element truly is. If there is too much water, fire is indeed crucial for balance.
   
### 2. **Interactions between 寅 and 巳 (Yin and Si)**
   The analysis mentions the clash between 寅 (Tiger) and 巳 (Snake) as problematic due to the formation of conflicts. 寅 (Wood) and 巳 (Fire) indeed create a clash since they belong to different elements and have opposing energies. This clash can bring instability and tension, especially if they appear in crucial positions like the year and hour pillars.

   - The claim that this clash is associated with a life-threatening combination when combined with the presence of 申 (Monkey) to form a 三刑 (Three Punishments) is valid. 三刑 (Yin, Si, Shen) is a powerful and often negative configuration that could indeed indicate significant disruptions in life.
   
### 3. **2022 壬寅 Year and the Water Element Impact**
   In 2022 (壬寅年), the influence of water was strong due to the appearance of 壬 (Yang Water). The interpretation that nothing bad happened because of this elemental support makes sense, especially if the person’s chart favors water.

   - However, the shift to 癸 (Yin Water) in the following year, combined with the 卯 (Rabbit), forming a 子卯破 (Zi-Mao Clash), is viewed as a dangerous interaction. The clash between 子 (Rat) and 卯 (Rabbit) is real and is often associated with problems in relationships, instability, or accidents, but we must look at the overall chart to confirm how severe this clash is.
   
### 4. **The Plane Crash and Three Punishments (三刑)**
   The article suggests that 三刑 (Yin-Si-Shen punishment) combined with 子卯破 led to the plane crash. While 三刑 is a strong indicator of disruption, such extreme interpretations should be taken cautiously. It’s important to recognize that not every clash or punishment will lead to catastrophic events like a plane crash; it typically represents internal or external struggles unless amplified by other strong negative factors.

### 5. **Daymaster Comparison to Celebrities**
   The mention of other strong water daymasters like Dwayne Johnson and Jackie Chan is interesting, but these comparisons are anecdotal. While they may share a similar day pillar (癸巳), it doesn’t necessarily imply the same life path or fate. Each Bazi chart is unique, and factors such as luck pillars (大运), heavenly stems, and earthly branches play significant roles.

### 6. **Clashes in the Luck Pillars (大运)**
   The idea that luck pillars (大运) which clash with the month pillar can lead to major problems after the age of 50 is noteworthy. Indeed, the interaction between a person’s natal chart and their current luck cycle is critical in Bazi, and significant clashes can bring about health issues, career problems, or family challenges.

### Conclusion
I would agree with parts of this interpretation, especially the emphasis on the clashes (子卯破, 三刑), the strength of water, and the need for fire. However, I would caution against overly deterministic views, such as concluding that the chart directly leads to a plane crash. Clashes and punishments often create tension or difficulties, but they manifest differently in each person’s life.

Do you agree with some parts of their interpretation, or would you like to explore other perspectives?

Online nin99

Re: the dead of christian oliver
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2024, 01:50:35 PM »
@smsek you agree with my reading about him?

Online nin99

Re: the dead of christian oliver
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2025, 06:33:33 PM »
@smsek he was born în 1972 at și ding hour

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Re: the dead of christian oliver
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2025, 06:35:06 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Oliver 3 march 1972.intresting point of view deae @smsek .

Online nin99

Re: the dead of christian oliver
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2025, 06:46:20 PM »
原文:至用煞而又逢财,本为不美,然能去煞存财,又成贵格。戊辰、癸亥、壬午、丙午,合煞存财,袁内阁命是也。
As for 7K that meets Wealth, is originally not good, but to (combine) away 7K and leaves Wealth, it becomes a noble structure.

Bing    Ren     Gui       Wu
Wu       Wu     Hai       Chen

7K is combined and Wealth is left, the chart of Cabinet minister Yuan

原文:其禄劫之格,无财官而用伤食,泄其太过,亦为秀气。
For RobWealth structure that has neither Wealth nor Officer but uses Food or HO to exhausts the over(ly strong DM), it is also considered elegant Qi

唯春木秋金,用之则贵,盖木逢火则明,金生水则灵。
Only for Wood born in Spring and Metal born in Autumn, using this is considered noble, as wood meets fire is bright, metal engenders water is soulful.

如张状元命,甲子、丙寅、甲子、丙寅,木火通明也;。
Like this guy's chart who got the first place in the imperial exam

Bing     Jia      Bing       Jia
Yin        Zi       Yin        Zi

又癸卯、庚申、庚子、庚辰,金水相涵也
and 

Geng     Geng      Geng     Gui
Chen      Zi          Shen     Mao

原文:更有禄劫而官煞竞出,必取清方为贵格。
Also, there are charts where both Officer and 7K are protruding. They (DO or 7K) have to be cleared to be regarded as noble

如一平章命,辛丑、庚寅、甲辰、乙亥、合煞留这也
Such as

Yi      Jia      Geng      Xin
Hai    Chen   Yin       Chou

7K is combined away and DO is left

;如辛亥、庚寅、甲申、丙寅,制煞留官也。

Bing     Jia      Geng     Xin
Yin      Shen     Yin       Hai

7K is being restraint and DO is saved


原文:倘或两官竞出,亦须制伏,所谓争正官不可无伤也
Or, if two DO are protruding, they must also be restrained. As in the saying 'Competing Officers must be injured'

原文:若夫用官而孤官无辅,格局更小,难于取贵,若透伤食便不破格。
If the structure uses DO and DO is without assistance (without Wealth or Seal), it becomes a small structure (low ranking), difficult to be regarded as noble, if HO or Food are protruding, it is regarded as broken structure.

然亦有官伤并透而贵者,何也?
But there are cases where DO is used and HO protruding that is noble, why?

如己酉、乙亥、壬戌、庚子,庚合乙而去伤存官,王总兵命也。
Such as

Geng     Ren     Yi      Ji
Zi           Xu     Hai     You

Geng combines away Yi to leave save Officer, the chart of General Wang (True second rank 正二品 )

原文:用财而不透伤食,便难于发端,然干头透一位而不杂,地支根多,亦可取富,但不贵耳。
Use Wealth but the outputs are not protruding, it is very difficult to be successful. If one is protruding in the HS and is not 'messy' while having many roots in the EBs, that can be regarded as wealthy but not noble.

原文:用官煞重而无制伏,运行制伏,亦可发财,但不可官煞太重,致令身危也
Use Officer or 7K but without restraint, when Luck Pillars go to restraint, one can also become wealthy, but the Officers should not be too heavy, as that endangers Self.

I have gui si mao and zi.wealth...must have a life of a great bussinesman.ehehe

 

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