Struggles in the last 7 years

[Acvamarie]

@coldpillow

Going by that assumption, everyone that I've encountered and helped me grow has metal in some shape or form? Or is it something akin to what @eveereads mentioned earlier on the topic about Yi wood being Rob Wealth, thus being more competitive?

[coldpillow]

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[Acvamarie]

@coldpillow

One last question - how are the children and travel palaces? There wasn't any mention about them.

[eveereads]

So a broken Yang Blade might act like a Yin daymaster with a Yang Blade, or something different?

Even a broken Yang Blade (破格 羊刃) is still classified as Yang Blade in the broad sense, but that is only because we name the 格 (structure) based on the Month Branch. Once it becomes broken, Yang Blade no longer functions as the original "pure Yang Blade," but instead assists those with a proper structure or shifts its purpose toward popularity or wealth as a type of Bi-Jian (比劫). In other words, when Yang Blade changes its path (移度), the person may abandon noble authority and instead pursue fame (as a celebrity) or wealth (as a successful merchant), trading honor for profit.

Even for a Yin-stem Day Master (陰干), if Pian Guan (偏官) is present, Yang Blade becomes a proper structure (成格) and the person still walks the path of Yang Blade, but their direction is different from a Yang-stem Day Master.

A Yang-stem Yang Blade (陽干 羊刃) actively gathers people on their own, volunteers to be the leader, and acts first—speech and action come before thought.

A Yin-stem Yang Blade (陰干 羊刃) is not focused on outward appeal, but on perfecting the self. They stay in one place, sharpening their Yang Blade ability, and wait for others to discover them and elevate them into leadership.

[Acvamarie]

@eveereads @coldpillow

From what I understand, in my case, if I'd mentor someone with a proper Yang Blade, especially someone who is metal dominant (or possibly fire dominant), would it improve my own Yang Blade?

Also, what does 殺印相生 represent?

[eveereads]

@eveereads @coldpillow

From what I understand, in my case, if I'd mentor someone with a proper Yang Blade, especially someone who is metal dominant (or possibly fire dominant), would it improve my own Yang Blade?

Also, what does 殺印相生 represent?

If you're wondering whether a broken Yang Blade can become a proper one through cultivation or mentorship, my answer is both yes and no.

Roughly speaking, about 30% of people born with Yang Blade are proper.
About 30% are broken and diviated (移度), meaning they abandon the original Yang Blade mission and redirect their power toward fame or wealth. The remaining 40% are also broken, but don't meet the conditions to diviate—this is where you belong.

Depending on whom you meet, you can either shift into a diviated Yang Blade and live like a Bi-Jian type who seeks recognition or profit, or join a proper Yang Blade's group and assist their mission to turn the group into Pian Guan.

But as I said before, the path of a true Yang Blade is not one that just anyone can walk.
Even among those born with the proper structure, only about 1% ever complete the mission.

A symbolic example is Thích Quảng Đức, the Vietnamese monk who self-immolated. (We're not discussing his literal BaZi chart, only using his life as an example.)
He was born into a noble family, abandoned his privileged life, and became a monk. When the nation was collapsing under corruption, he sacrificed himself to awaken his people. His death sparked public outrage and ultimately contributed to the events that led to the Vietnam War. That is the scale of influence Yang Blade is originally meant to carry—one person’s sacrifice shaking the entire world.

So, yes, if you want to live as a proper Yang Blade, you must watch the people around you and learn from them because some of them are already practicing 殺印相生 (Sha–Yin Mutual Generation), which you asked me about.

I already explained the concept of 殺印相生 earlier, so I'll skip it. One page wouldn’t be enough if I went into full detail again. So, I’ll just apply it to your case. You have Shen Metal (申金) and Hai Water (亥水) in your Branches.
This means there are already people around you who are living by the rule of 殺印相生.

Examples of such people include:

A wife who works to support her sick husband.

A woman who endures an abusive marriage for the sake of her children.

Someone who works to support ill parents or siblings.

Someone who chooses the hard path, not for themselves, but for others.

Others may say, "They don't need to live like that," but they choose to because they prioritize others' well-being over their own.

If you observe those people closely, learn from them, and live the same way consistently for 20–30 years, that is how you become a proper Yang Blade.

A proper Yang Blade does not choose the easy road.
Even when comfort is available, they walk the thorn-covered path for the sake of the people around them, and they don’t even think of it as hard. That is the natural behavior of a Yang Blade with Seven Killings (偏官) on the Heavenly Stems.

[2noBody]

What happened to forum rules here?

You're discussing something fictitious here. That's why I want to know the original source of this information. Preferably on wooden tablets. And written in pre-reform hieroglyphs. I can tell right away that this was made up by a poor person, without access to people of power and wealth. And, accordingly, it could cause harm in real life. I remember the thread about the Korean woman. That thread was deleted. She was very upset that her life had been ruined. Because of similar fictitious methods. And you left a lot of messages there . It's a shame that that thread was deleted. I don't really like it when people who need help receive ignorant advice.
*Any statement I make can be refuted or subjected to constructive criticism by anyone on this forum. For example, my predictions. Or where I get my information. My method for translating ancient texts is completely open. Everything is fair.

It's good when people come to BaZi for results, not self-affirmation. Vanity doesn't like questions.

And I'm still waiting for a link to the original source. Which, of course, isn't there .

[2noBody]

@eveereads @coldpillow

From what I understand, in my case, if I'd mentor someone with a proper Yang Blade, especially someone who is metal dominant (or possibly fire dominant), would it improve my own Yang Blade?

Also, what does 殺印相生 represent?

If you're wondering whether a broken Yang Blade can become a proper one through cultivation or mentorship, my answer is both yes and no.

Roughly speaking, about 30% of people born with Yang Blade are proper.
About 30% are broken and diviated (移度), meaning they abandon the original Yang Blade mission and redirect their power toward fame or wealth. The remaining 40% are also broken, but don't meet the conditions to diviate—this is where you belong.

Depending on whom you meet, you can either shift into a diviated Yang Blade and live like a Bi-Jian type who seeks recognition or profit, or join a proper Yang Blade's group and assist their mission to turn the group into Pian Guan.

But as I said before, the path of a true Yang Blade is not one that just anyone can walk.
Even among those born with the proper structure, only about 1% ever complete the mission.

A symbolic example is Thích Quảng Đức, the Vietnamese monk who self-immolated. (We're not discussing his literal BaZi chart, only using his life as an example.)
He was born into a noble family, abandoned his privileged life, and became a monk. When the nation was collapsing under corruption, he sacrificed himself to awaken his people. His death sparked public outrage and ultimately contributed to the events that led to the Vietnam War. That is the scale of influence Yang Blade is originally meant to carry—one person’s sacrifice shaking the entire world.

So, yes, if you want to live as a proper Yang Blade, you must watch the people around you and learn from them because some of them are already practicing 殺印相生 (Sha–Yin Mutual Generation), which you asked me about.

I already explained the concept of 殺印相生 earlier, so I'll skip it. One page wouldn’t be enough if I went into full detail again. So, I’ll just apply it to your case. You have Shen Metal (申金) and Hai Water (亥水) in your Branches.
This means there are already people around you who are living by the rule of 殺印相生.

Examples of such people include:

A wife who works to support her sick husband.

A woman who endures an abusive marriage for the sake of her children.

Someone who works to support ill parents or siblings.

Someone who chooses the hard path, not for themselves, but for others.

Others may say, "They don't need to live like that," but they choose to because they prioritize others' well-being over their own.

If you observe those people closely, learn from them, and live the same way consistently for 20–30 years, that is how you become a proper Yang Blade.

A proper Yang Blade does not choose the easy road.
Even when comfort is available, they walk the thorn-covered path for the sake of the people around them, and they don’t even think of it as hard. That is the natural behavior of a Yang Blade with Seven Killings (偏官) on the Heavenly Stems.

A monk from a village. There were seven children in the family. He escaped poverty under the protection of his uncle. Are there rich Vietnamese in the villages? In French Indochina? You're a storyteller, my respects. It's a shame the French weren't aware of it. His burning caused a worldwide outcry because it was photographed. And the photo was published. It had no effect on Buddhists. No uprisings. Only self-immolations by monks. Until the military staged a coup.

*There's no mention of his uncle being rich either. I think his uncle simply had something to eat. Or a job. So, out of poverty, he immediately went into monasticism.

I don't even want to discuss the Vietnam War. It was a proxy war between the US and the USSR. The monk played no role in those events. This is not to downplay his sacrifice. Dozens of monks self-immolated there. It couldn't have affected the geopolitical situation in any way.

This is all public information. You can check it out.


As they sing in one song:
You don't need a knife to kill a fool. Sing along with a fool a little, and then do with him what you will.

[coldpillow]

You're discussing something fictitious here. That's why I want to know the original source of this information. Preferably on wooden tablets. And written in pre-reform hieroglyphs. I can tell right away that this was made up by a poor person, without access to people of power and wealth. And, accordingly, it could cause harm in real life. I remember the thread about the Korean woman. That thread was deleted. She was very upset that her life had been ruined. Because of similar fictitious methods. And you left a lot of messages there . It's a shame that that thread was deleted. I don't really like it when people who need help receive ignorant advice.
*Any statement I make can be refuted or subjected to constructive criticism by anyone on this forum. For example, my predictions. Or where I get my information. My method for translating ancient texts is completely open. Everything is fair.

It's good when people come to BaZi for results, not self-affirmation. Vanity doesn't like questions.

And I'm still waiting for a link to the original source. Which, of course, isn't there .

Take a deep breath, sir. Release. And move forward.

How many hours did you spend editing and perfecting your insult, btw? 

[coldpillow]

I remember the thread about the Korean woman. That thread was deleted. She was very upset that her life had been ruined. Because of similar fictitious methods. And you left a lot of messages there . It's a shame that that thread was deleted.

I also remember a thread where your analysis got dismissed so quickly because it's way off. 
 
You're just bitter that I'm more interested in learning and sharing those "fictitious" sources while totally ignore your infinitely superior "Taoist" Bazi, which sound like an ironic name because of your belligerence.

Not to mention creating a duplicate account just to provoke and insult.

[coldpillow]

For example, my predictions. Or where I get my information. My method for translating ancient texts is completely open. Everything is fair.

It's good when people come to BaZi for results, not self-affirmation. Vanity doesn't like questions.

Not interested at all in Taoist Bazi. For now.

I will stick with my fictitious sources and follow @eveereads because I'm more familiar with her method, which made you finally explode here. 

No need to reply with more novels because well, you're simply a bitter person.

Sorry for multiple post @Acvamarie. TTYL.

[coldpillow]

@Acvamarie

If you are interested in ZWDS, you can find more information in ZWDS Correspondence Course by Joseph Yu: https://pdfcoffee.com/zi-wi-du-shu-rrsndn-urs-pdfdrive-pdf-free.html

Personally, I don't read everything in there. Only studied those related to my own chart.

One last question - how are the children and travel palaces? There wasn't any mention about them.

Your children palace contains Tianfu, which is good and stable for finance matters. Children = parent's wealth. But travel palace contains Tiantong and Dijie, which looks unstable. You can find the meaning here: https://zwdsastrology.blogspot.com/p/stars-in-palaces.html

You may not find this particular information from that blog: Tiantong in travel and Jumen in destiny palace can be associated with gossips, food and dining experience.

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@Acvamarie @eveereads

In case you ponder about recent personal attacks, I just found this spectacular piece of work here: https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1664.0

The whole thread is basically someone talking to himself with his multiple accounts. No kidding.

I don't bother to visit until now, because I suspect there must be something really wrong about him. The content in page 4 is especially concerning to me.

[eveereads]

@Acvamarie @eveereads

In case you ponder about recent personal attacks, I just found this spectacular piece of work here: https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1664.0

The whole thread is basically someone talking to himself with his multiple accounts. No kidding.

I don't bother to visit until now, because I suspect there must be something really wrong about him. The content in page 4 is especially concerning to me.

Thank you for your kindness, coldpillow.
I understand that everyone on the forum studies different schools of thought, and therefore holds different opinions on the same subjects. Discussing and exchanging ideas shouldn’t be an emotional affair—not because it merely creates division among people, but because it also reflects the depth of one’s understanding of what they study and teach. At the same time, it’s an enlightening lesson for those who become the targets of emotional responses, as it teaches them what not to do. Whether your interactions with others on this forum are positive or negative, you’re still imparting a lesson, and I appreciate that. This, in itself, is the ultimate lesson of Yin and Yang.