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Offline codec

Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« on: November 13, 2023, 11:12:55 AM »
Hello there! I'm Codec. I've been reading about Bazi for the past year and I'm still having a hard time reading about my chart.

Is there anything interesting about my career and financial prospects? As of now I am a teacher but I don't really like my current job. It was just something forced by my parents. So I plan to leave. What job would suit me if I'd change careers or is it better if I do business? And in what ways can I gain financial stability? I do financial speculation in the forex market as well.  Will that be something I should continue? Thank you very much for the response!

I'm really at a turning point in my life because I don't have any connections, few friends only. I will really appreciate any insight to help guide my way.

I posted my bazi chart below. Oct. 6, 1994 - 8:00 in the evening

« Last Edit: November 13, 2023, 12:02:02 PM by codec »

Offline aeonrel

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2023, 05:24:58 PM »
Hi @codec ,

I see from your chart attachment that there is time correction, so I am going to assumed it is solar adjusted .
It is difficult to calculate exactly the prospects without your Luck Pillars, especially when your gender is not known, which is a critical determinant of the Luck Pillars.

I will share my opinions based on the chart alone, via mixing 5 elements and some classical Bazi approaches:

If we look at the chart from a family perspective, some sources say the Year Pillar represents Parents, some say it is the Month Pillar.
Either way, both represents the generation leading up to you, so I will do an image play using both.
On the Year Pillar, Jia wood represents vibrant growth and is the industry for teachers.
Xu as earth is about stability and being grounded.
Perhaps your parents forced you into teaching because they view it as a safe and honest job for long term?
On the Month Pillar, Gui water is Indirect Support and You is 7K which may be their unconventional way of supporting you by forcing it on you?

Personality-wise, I think you might be doing ok as a teacher thus far.
Bing fire is Hurting Officer and your presentation skills.
It is also sitting on the Hour Pillar which represent the projection of you, and on the stem, which is the more outward-facing side of you - perfect spot for expression.
It is fed by the Jia wood, which is your ability to build rapport with people, in this case, your ability to connect with your students.
You metal gives you the fierceness when discipline is required.

Your You metal also serves as your ambition and is located on your Month Pillar, representing adulthood close to mid-life.
Can be used to explain your need for "turning point" at current stage in life.
Chou-You also forms a half metal combination, and cuts across Month and Day Pillars (early to late adulthood), which also explains the currently stronger need for direction (metal).
You and Xu is in a harming relationship, perhaps signalling a tension between being controlled by a job (7K) and pursuing what you really want (Direct Wealth).

Because of your strong earth, and earth being your Wealth element, I would say doing your own thing is a good idea.
Running a business is more on Direct Wealth and forex is Indirect Wealth.
You have stronger potential running a business because of 2x Direct Wealth, but yet your Indirect Wealth sits on Day Pillar branch, which represents your inner interest.
So for me, either way works, so you can continue with both if you can handle it - one based on potential, the other based on interest.
But I can trust that the way you do trading or run a business will be based on sound and solid foundations because your Wealth is earth type.

Few friends because your chart lacks Mao and Yi wood - Friends element.
Jia wood is more for connecting with people who are not friends.

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That's all I can squeeze out of the main chart alone.
If you can reveal your gender, we can take a look at the Luck and Annual Pillars and grasp the prospects.

Offline codec

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2023, 07:48:45 AM »
Thank you very much for your analysis of my chart.

I have been reading my own chart but to no meaningful extent compared to the depth you have given.

Im a male btw.

A lot of what you said resonated with me especially the part where I want to do things based in my interest. And yes I can say that my job was forced as it was the easiest way to be stable in the perspective of my parents. But over the past 3 years I have been slowly changing and I can't ignore this feeling that I really want to do something based on my interest and not from a boss or head. I am more of a "do my thing" kind of guy.

I also remember having this chat with another bazi hobbyist where he said I would benefit from "non-physical things". And the first thing i thought about was digital objects? or something involving computers

Offline aeonrel

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2023, 08:58:42 AM »
@codec ,

Thanks for gender update.
Will give prospect when I have time to analyse the Luck Pillars.

Meanwhile...about the "benefit from non-physical things"...I couldn't figure out what that meant until an idea popped into my head:

Since your wealth is earth and earth is a pragmatic element, could he have meant that your pursuits/goals are more pragmatic instead of materialistic?

As opposed to say...if wealth is metal.
Metal has an image of "shiny things".
So maybe metal wealth is a pursuit more towards material wants.

Offline aeonrel

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2023, 02:39:33 PM »
@codec ,

I think change in thinking over the past 3 years can be explained using the Zi-Chou combination in this Luck Pillar (LP).
Zi is in the branches and some schools believe that represents the later 5 years of the LP decade.
This would fit for you as your mindset shift started around 2020, the starting of the later 5 years.
It is a stronger than normal Zi-Chou combination too, as 2020 is also a Zi year, making it a double Zi-Chou combination.
Zi as Direct Support, probably refers to your contemplation.
Chou as Indirect Wealth, probably reference to goals outside of your usual path that as unfulfilled.
2021 is Chou year, making it a Zi-double Chou combination, which is probably more or less the same, with more focus on the goals part.
2022 and 2023 is back to single Zi-Chou combination, but the seeds of doubt have already been planted.

For 2024, in the branches, the Direct Wealth from Chen will combine with You metal.
Combination is a reduction of energy from participating elements, so this gives me the impression that you might be trying to start your business next year.
You metal reduction is struggle with ambition, and Chen earth reduction may signify you leaving your current job, and in the interim, has poor proper income.
In the stems, 2x Jia wood growing 2x Bing fire, which is more people connection and more talking, suggesting the process of networking when starting a business.

2025 to 2034 LP is Ding-Chou.
Ding gives you more opportunities to express your talents, whatever those are, perhaps for the new business?
Chou adds to your Indirect Wealth luck.
So overall should be a generally good LP.

For immediately upcoming years, roughly the 1st half of 2025 to 2034 LP, there is quite a bit of fire and earth coming in, and mostly in a healthy state, so strong affinity for you to express yourself and your talents, and a lot of wealth to be reaped.
(Did not do an in-depth year-by-year read because it is too time consuming - unless you want to zoom in on any specific year).

Take special care in 2025 April and May as the year's Yi stem (shared Qi with DM) combine with the April's Geng stem and clashes with May's Xin stem.
This negative effect is directly on DM, which will make the bad luck feel much stronger than normal.

Beware 2035-2044 LP Wu-Yin as it is a wealth loss period.
In stems, Wu can combine with Gui - unconventional thinking leading to a wealth/business drop, or something like that.
In branches, Yin wood will suppress one of the Xu earth - loss of wealth due to people.

Offline codec

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2023, 03:02:05 PM »
Wow the things you said are quite promising. Especially the upcoming LP. But the scary part is the next LP after that. I thought it was going to be somehow an "okay" or average LP because my Daymaster is rooted but it seems that there'll be a lot of negative things by then. Is the wood that controls my earth not showing any positive signs? since it is wood controls the wealth element? Both Xu pillars are also in Emptiness so, maybe that's another negative thing. Is there something I can do about it? Or maybe to neutralize it. Thanks again btw
« Last Edit: November 16, 2023, 03:16:51 PM by codec »

Offline aeonrel

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2023, 03:08:58 AM »
@codec,

Rooted just gives the specific element more strength.
LP branch Yin wood's hidden stem is Jia wood.
So it strengthens the Jia wood in your stem via rooting, not the DM, which is Yi wood.
Jia wood is Rob Wealth for you...which I guess the name implies itself.

If you want to strengthen DM via rooting, you need Chen, Wei or Mao, because they contains Yi wood hidden stem.
But yet each of them brings other problems.
Mao will combine with Xu, removing it from the equation.
Chen will clash with Xu, Wei will clash with Chou.
So don't wait for a good time to be strengthen - not going to come without challenges.

And these reflect the challenges you will face to maintain control over your wealth.
This was something I did not consider until you brought up the rooting thing and I re-analyzed your chart.
I consider your DM weak because all the branches are draining to DM, and you are also born out of season.
Strong DM needs to be drained and weak DM needs strengthening.
If DM is weak and faced with many wealth stars, DM has difficulty controlling the wealth.
Meaning you will still bring in the money and see a lot of gains, but you will also see a lot of losses - fleeting Wealth.

This story sort of plays itself out from looking at the chart and LPs.
Next LP has strong potential for wealth growth, then following LP has strong chance of Wealth loss.
As you mentioned, your Xu are also in Emptiness (which I previously did not factor in).
This reduces their Qi down to very low, but not completely zero.
(So in this flip-around, your Indirect Wealth actually edges out your Direct Wealth)
But the main thing is that despite having many wealth, the effect isn't as awesome as it deems to be because some are in Emptiness - another way of aligning with the story of not actually able to capture the full potential of your wealth luck.

Emptiness may not always be a negative thing.
If it is an element doing you harm, you'd rather its effects are reduced.
In a strange way, maybe better for you as weak DM, because it is draining to control wealth.
So lesser gains but also fewer losses - less mentally stressful.
But the existence of Emptiness, and the entire Bazi chart on a whole, is not something you can change.
You can only read as much information from it, so you know the highs and lows, so you can take actions to ride the highs and mitigate the lows as much as possible.

Example: During your high wealth periods, rake in as much as you can. During poor wealth periods, be a bit more selfish, be watchful of partnerships which has potential of taking advantage of you, watch your spending.

Online coldpillow

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2023, 02:27:30 AM »
Are you sure your birth hour is dog, not rooster or pig?

Your teaching job fits rooster and pig hour, your dislike of that job also fits those hours.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 02:33:40 AM by coldpillow »

Offline codec

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2023, 02:43:11 AM »
Are you sure your birth hour is dog, not rooster or pig?

Your teaching job fits rooster and pig hour, your dislike of that job also fits those hours.

I just checked my birth certificate and yes it was around 8 in the evening here in the Philippines when I was born.

I do not like teaching at all so I really plan to leave. My alternative would be business or some other career. I don't really like talking to a lot of people even when it's children or with the parents or even other colleagues. I am an introvert and it drains me when my job is about facing people. I really like solo, remote jobs or things where I can make an impact even without recognition. I just want to work in peace without too much people around.

Like what I said in the original post, i do have side hustles like forex trading, and I code a little as well. What might suit me? or any idea that might help me in choosing another career or business?

Offline codec

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2023, 02:55:21 AM »
@codec,

Rooted just gives the specific element more strength.
LP branch Yin wood's hidden stem is Jia wood.
So it strengthens the Jia wood in your stem via rooting, not the DM, which is Yi wood.
Jia wood is Rob Wealth for you...which I guess the name implies itself.

If you want to strengthen DM via rooting, you need Chen, Wei or Mao, because they contains Yi wood hidden stem.
But yet each of them brings other problems.
Mao will combine with Xu, removing it from the equation.
Chen will clash with Xu, Wei will clash with Chou.
So don't wait for a good time to be strengthen - not going to come without challenges.


Thank you so much for your reply.

I still have a lot more to learn about bazi so mainly my knowledge only comes from english texts that are available on the internet.

One thing I got curious about was the Rob Wealth pillar. You mentioned that it really does rob wealth and takes away money or is a sign of wealth loss. it's scary of course.
I happened to stumble upon another bazi video where Mr. Kevin Chan tells that Yi undergoing  Jia as the Rob Wealth is more beneficial to Yi DM, more than Jia having Yi as RW. I really don't know if that's true or not, as you I'm only reading stuff. That's why i want to ask you. He further explained that this is a positive thing for Yi DM because Yi is one of those few DMs that can harness Rob Wealth due to it's "parasitic" relationship with the Jia. The metaphor he gave was that Yi will not benefit much in the beginning as it is only a vine or small plant that needs to climb the big tree. However once the Yi plant is able to entangle the Jia with it's vines after a period of time, Jia will now act as a 'helper' that lets Yi become more stable and that Yi can now dig deeper into the ground through the help of the big tree. It's not rooted though. But that's what he gave in the video.

Does this idea have something positive for the RW pillar or is it wrong entirely? Thank you very much.

Online coldpillow

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2023, 04:11:27 AM »
Regardless the accuracy of your birth hour:

Suitable jobs must be skill-based and verbal communication, particularly in foreign language.

Without verbal communication, your luck is reduced.

Because you don't have strong determination, you are easily influenced by much older people. Unwittingly, you need constant guidance. If you're not so lucky to have a great mentor, then you have to seek their insights from different sources.

You're smart with high IQ, but you might be "the jack of all trades" (JOAT) in terms of career.

JOAT can be successful if they're cunning and crafty. You don't need deep expertise in a certain field, just need to know a lot of tricks to make your job easier and exploit new hot opportunities.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 04:32:01 AM by coldpillow »

Offline aeonrel

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2023, 04:19:03 PM »
@codec ,

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One thing I got curious about was the Rob Wealth pillar. You mentioned that it really does rob wealth and takes away money or is a sign of wealth loss. it's scary of course.
To be specific, the wealth loss only occurs when RW clash on to ID/DW.
RW alone doesn't do much, other than maybe give you a slightly overbearing personality (Goat Blade symbolic star).

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I happened to stumble upon another bazi video where Mr. Kevin Chan tells that Yi undergoing  Jia as the Rob Wealth is more beneficial to Yi DM, more than Jia having Yi as RW. I really don't know if that's true or not, as you I'm only reading stuff. That's why i want to ask you. He further explained that this is a positive thing for Yi DM because Yi is one of those few DMs that can harness Rob Wealth due to it's "parasitic" relationship with the Jia. The metaphor he gave was that Yi will not benefit much in the beginning as it is only a vine or small plant that needs to climb the big tree. However once the Yi plant is able to entangle the Jia with it's vines after a period of time, Jia will now act as a 'helper' that lets Yi become more stable and that Yi can now dig deeper into the ground through the help of the big tree. It's not rooted though. But that's what he gave in the video.
I have heard of this example before, but I am not sure if this sort of explanation is validated in ancient text or self-derived.
Personally, I do not like the image approach when it is overcooked.
To me, the elements are just analogous aspects of our lives, not the actual element in reality.
i.e. Ding fire is NOT REALLY a candlelit flame, Yi wood is NOT REALLY a plant, etc.
Just grasp the meaning behind the 10 Gods for each and work from there.
Images can help to form an understanding, but cannot be the definition of the element.

The way I can lean into the vine-parasitic explanation is to play up the difference of Jia as Yang Wood and Yi as Yin Wood.
Yang versions of elements are more energetic, always goes first in terms of elemental interactions, protects their Yin counterparts, more vibrant.
So if wood RW is useful for you, Jia RW with Yi DM is a better pairing than Yi RW and Jia DM.

But all these cannot be concluded with certainty unless the interaction is worked out.

MangpaiLover

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Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2023, 03:29:08 AM »
@codec,

Rooted just gives the specific element more strength.
LP branch Yin wood's hidden stem is Jia wood.
So it strengthens the Jia wood in your stem via rooting, not the DM, which is Yi wood.
Jia wood is Rob Wealth for you...which I guess the name implies itself.

If you want to strengthen DM via rooting, you need Chen, Wei or Mao, because they contains Yi wood hidden stem.
But yet each of them brings other problems.
Mao will combine with Xu, removing it from the equation.
Chen will clash with Xu, Wei will clash with Chou.
So don't wait for a good time to be strengthen - not going to come without challenges.


Thank you so much for your reply.

I still have a lot more to learn about bazi so mainly my knowledge only comes from english texts that are available on the internet.

One thing I got curious about was the Rob Wealth pillar. You mentioned that it really does rob wealth and takes away money or is a sign of wealth loss. it's scary of course.
I happened to stumble upon another bazi video where Mr. Kevin Chan tells that Yi undergoing  Jia as the Rob Wealth is more beneficial to Yi DM, more than Jia having Yi as RW. I really don't know if that's true or not, as you I'm only reading stuff. That's why i want to ask you. He further explained that this is a positive thing for Yi DM because Yi is one of those few DMs that can harness Rob Wealth due to it's "parasitic" relationship with the Jia. The metaphor he gave was that Yi will not benefit much in the beginning as it is only a vine or small plant that needs to climb the big tree. However once the Yi plant is able to entangle the Jia with it's vines after a period of time, Jia will now act as a 'helper' that lets Yi become more stable and that Yi can now dig deeper into the ground through the help of the big tree. It's not rooted though. But that's what he gave in the video.

Does this idea have something positive for the RW pillar or is it wrong entirely? Thank you very much.

there is no issues with your rob wealth, yes rob wealth does take wealth away.
but there is no wealth for your rob wealth to take because your wealth is not seen.
and there is no such thing as Yi with Jia Rob wealth is good.
This is a Self-Comforting Statement.
All Rob wealth meet with wealth is lose money.

your chart more suitable for business.
teaching not suited for you.
You want money that come in quickly and not
'wait for month end'

Last year and this year financial situation quite shaky for you.
Your chart not doing any work at all.


« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 04:06:15 AM by MangpaiLover »

Offline codec

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2023, 04:30:20 AM »
@codec,

Rooted just gives the specific element more strength.
LP branch Yin wood's hidden stem is Jia wood.
So it strengthens the Jia wood in your stem via rooting, not the DM, which is Yi wood.
Jia wood is Rob Wealth for you...which I guess the name implies itself.

If you want to strengthen DM via rooting, you need Chen, Wei or Mao, because they contains Yi wood hidden stem.
But yet each of them brings other problems.
Mao will combine with Xu, removing it from the equation.
Chen will clash with Xu, Wei will clash with Chou.
So don't wait for a good time to be strengthen - not going to come without challenges.


Thank you so much for your reply.

I still have a lot more to learn about bazi so mainly my knowledge only comes from english texts that are available on the internet.

One thing I got curious about was the Rob Wealth pillar. You mentioned that it really does rob wealth and takes away money or is a sign of wealth loss. it's scary of course.
I happened to stumble upon another bazi video where Mr. Kevin Chan tells that Yi undergoing  Jia as the Rob Wealth is more beneficial to Yi DM, more than Jia having Yi as RW. I really don't know if that's true or not, as you I'm only reading stuff. That's why i want to ask you. He further explained that this is a positive thing for Yi DM because Yi is one of those few DMs that can harness Rob Wealth due to it's "parasitic" relationship with the Jia. The metaphor he gave was that Yi will not benefit much in the beginning as it is only a vine or small plant that needs to climb the big tree. However once the Yi plant is able to entangle the Jia with it's vines after a period of time, Jia will now act as a 'helper' that lets Yi become more stable and that Yi can now dig deeper into the ground through the help of the big tree. It's not rooted though. But that's what he gave in the video.

Does this idea have something positive for the RW pillar or is it wrong entirely? Thank you very much.

there is no issues with your rob wealth, yes rob wealth does take wealth away.
but there is no wealth for your rob wealth to take because your wealth is not seen.
and there is no such thing as Yi with Jia Rob wealth is good.
This is a Self-Comforting Statement.
All Rob wealth meet with wealth is lose money.

your chart more suitable for business.
teaching not suited for you.
You want money that come in quickly and not
'wait for month end'

Last year and this year financial situation quite shaky for you.
Your chart not doing any work at all.


Thanks for the insight. Somehow it is a relief that even though my Luck Pillar would be using Rob Wealth in the future, it does make sense that it won't be meeting with the wealth star since it is hidden in the branches. I personally don't show off my financial status that much as well. I don't have fancy clothes or luxurious watches and jewelries. But I do have a high end PC, and quite a few months of savings that no one really knows but me. So my personality is matching with what you said that Wealth is hidden both in bazi chart and real life. I'm an introvert and don't like to share these things at all. I always keep my life private even from my own family.

You also pointed out that I am more suitable for business. Is it because of the Indirect Wealth in my Day pillar? I'm also quite rebellious to a point that I know I have the ability to be self employed it's just that I'm stuck.

Money really is an issue for me over the past years. However, I'm still able to save even little with the situation I'm in. I got curious with the chart not "doing any work". WHat do you mean by that? Thank you again for the reply.

Online coldpillow

Re: Career change advice. I'm at a crossroads..
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