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Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« on: June 11, 2020, 05:31:55 PM »
To All,

Yesterday evening while on my jog, I tripped and fell. Instead of falling face forward into the ground, I took a roll. But while in the roll I hit my left (back of) shoulder on the ground.

Is this a serious injury or just a lighter bump and bruise, just requiring normal treatment.

(This is the wrong hexagram)
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/25,0,0,0,1,0,0,6,3,2020-06-11,11:33

(This is the correct hexagram)
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/23,0,1,1,0,0,0,8,2,2020-06-11,11:33

Thanks,
ren
« Last Edit: June 11, 2020, 05:37:26 PM by ren »

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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 07:52:44 PM »
Note: the following reading is done using the "wrong hexagram"
To All,

Yesterday evening while on my jog, I tripped and fell. Instead of falling face forward into the ground, I took a roll. But while in the roll I hit my left (back of) shoulder on the ground.

Is this a serious injury or just a lighter bump and bruise, just requiring normal treatment.

6/12/20 - 23.2.3 -> 18
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/25,0,0,0,1,0,0,6,3,2020-06-11,11:33

Thanks,

ren

Its 11 june, right?Coz on the link it says 11 but above it says 12. It has to be 11, though:


Well I think your line is strong, may fall in Tomb, but people seems to take that as protection and it is strong after the change as well.
Also Child - so its some indication all is good there won't be much worries etc. it does change to asset though so maybe will get some medication, painkiller or something.

Officer line is strong, yet it isn't moving, so serious - maybe, but maybe won't get worse(as not moving). You are weakening it as well now.

Sibling line (that could show shoulder) is very weak unless we count the Yin  <> Wu as it being strong(members here used that some time ago and I'm open to the idea it works). Interestingly enough the Shen metal Officer line is around the position of a shoulder.

Overall, I would guess its somewhat bad, but it won't get worse with time. Will it get better, well your line moving is weakening it, yet the resulting line will strengthen it instead... So I would guess whatever you are doing to help is working for now, but shouldn't get too far or may actually be a problem.

And that is my guess. : )
What to do - up to you, of course, but whatever you are doing I would guess helps already yet there may be indication if done too much may be harmful, so adjustment on the way may be needed.

Haven't done this type of questions, so no idea how important the moving of Shen would be.
And in another forum we were criticued that we didn't suggest the person can go to their doctor for medical problem, so even though everyone is probably aware of that, will also mention you can go, also, to your doctor.

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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 11:38:59 PM »
Hi Gmuli,

Thanks for looking at the hexagram.

Yes, today is June 11. But I casted Gen over Kun with lines 2 and 3 moving to hexagram 18.

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/23,0,1,1,0,0,0,8,2,2020-06-11,11:33

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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2020, 10:02:12 AM »
Ohh, this is something different...

The string records the hexagram and changing lines, so first numbers are the hexagram, then there are 6 times 0 or 1, 1 for changing lines 0 for non changing one.

Basically:
25,0,0,0,1,0,0,6,3,2020-06-11,11:33

25 - hexagram 25
0 - first line isnt moving
0 - second line isn't moving
1 - third line is moving
etc.

So if you casted hexagram 23 and the string starts with 25 something isn't working.

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o All,

Yesterday evening while on my jog, I tripped and fell. Instead of falling face forward into the ground, I took a roll. But while in the roll I hit my left (back of) shoulder on the ground.

Is this a serious injury or just a lighter bump and bruise, just requiring normal treatment.

6/12/20 - 23.2.3 -> 18
https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/25,0,0,0,1,0,0,6,3,2020-06-11,11:33

Thanks,

ren

For 23.2.3 I think you will be fine, Officer moves to child - may be a problem now, will be fine soon.
Your line is strong, clashed by the month so there is problem now, but its Child so it isn't that big.
May lose some money or another posesion in the process, so may need some medicine or something,

So probably more then just a bruise, as Officer line is strong, but it will be fine soon. : )

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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 04:35:56 PM »
ren, is the hexagram linked in your original post incorrect? If so, I will delete the link to avoid confusion.

Sorry to hear about the accident :(.  Based on the latter hexagram:
1) There is an image of you losing your balance due to a sunken hole.  I don't know if you noticed it or not when it happened, but that's my take on first Parent line in Emptiness meeting Dragon
2) Note that the hexagram is Fan Yin hexagram, be careful that things do not turn out worse than you expect.  Have a photo or scan taken to be sure, apart from the normal treatment of ice and heat
3) There's a possibility that a ligament is torn, or the shoulder blade is sprained.  Reason: strong Officer line Si combines with fifth line Sibling Shen coming with White Tiger.
4) A bit unrelated, but is there any bruise on the leg, maybe near the buttocks?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 11:10:04 PM »
Many wishes @ren .. for quick recovery  ...
Based on Hexagram 25 Wu Wang that means allowing.
This hexagram reminds the importance of patience and allowing the events to unfold in their own ways.
Let go of what happens now and allow others to take care for you ..!!
Maybe will be wise to enter hospital for Medical care ...
Allow the situations to pass through and do not draw unnecessary troubles onto yourself..
*HEALTH AND FITNESS Focus on breathing exercises and take good care of your lungs.
*DISEASE AND SICKNESS Please work closely with health care professionals and try to find peace internally.                                                           
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2020, 11:12:59 AM »
Hey Gmuli,
JLim post uses the correct hexagram.

JLim,
Please delete my first link but please leave Gmuli's initial reading using hex 25 - maybe add a note it is using 25 instead of 23.

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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2020, 01:36:22 PM »
Hi ren, first of all, I have made some editing based on your request.
Quote = JLim:
1) There is an image of you losing your balance due to a sunken hole.  I don't know if you noticed it or not when it happened, but that's my take on first Parent line in Emptiness meeting Dragon
The first yao is not active or moving. Are you reading this line since it has Liu He with Month in addition to being Void?
The area I was running on is mixed grade. Parts are dirt, some gravel, some paved, some areas are rocky. It is not uncommon to kick something and get tripped up. The area was also slightly shaded with trees.
My reading of the outside environment of the event is a combination of Parent + Void + Dragon + Month.  The Dragon is important to note.  If not a sunken hole, then it's undulating land or area with trees (the last one of which you have mentioned).


3) There's a possibility that a ligament is torn, or the shoulder blade is sprained.  Reason: strong Officer line Si combines with fifth line Sibling Shen coming with White Tiger.
Yes, Sibling can be root of injury... I have injured this shoulder numerous times. I suspect a possible rotator-cuff injury.
I forgot to mention in my first reply: the hidden line coming out means the current injury is related to past injury or injuries.

Recently I read a house Feng Shui where the occupant had an eye problem in the past, based on looking at the hexagram and hidden line. 
But the Officer line on that hexagram is very weak, so it's not a problem at the present.

4) A bit unrelated, but is there any bruise on the leg, maybe near the buttocks?
Have a slight scrape at GB-34 right side (below lateral right knee). Except for banging my shoulder, this fall was very minor.
It's the You Sibling clashing Mao on the third line.

Just an update: As I wrote most of this, this morning - tonight the shoulder is feeling somewhat better. But condition still guarded.
Good to hear that!
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 08:59:11 PM »
Hi ren,
A) I guess the first yao can represent the feet, the ground (something close to the earth).  B) I guess dragon can relate to flying, as in flying thru the air.
A) Yes. 
B) Yes!
C) I guess the liu he with the month may indicate some movement. D) Could the void at the first yao indicate unsteady footing?
Can you share your thoughts on this?
C) Liu He with the month = description of the place/environment. 
D) Yes, you could also take the void as unsteady footing.  Nevertheless, this would not be an interpretation, because we knew from the outset that this hexagram was about tripping and falling. It goes without saying that there was some unsteady footing.

What's more interesting is the description of the environment.  Could you confirm the description that I made earlier?
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Re: Is My Shoulder Injury Serious?
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