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Re: Please read my bazi with mangpai.
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2020, 07:55:46 PM »
Both Ren and Gui are Water, but we must analyze in more detail how they really interact with the chart.  Sometimes Bazi is not as simple as all Water Stems being the same.

LP Ren Chen:
- Ren: this is not good, because Ren combines Ding away, and the natal chart wants to control Xin.  Ren sits on a solid pillar.
- Chen: this is also not good.  Look at how it interacts with the branches of your natal chart.

LP Gui Si is better than LP Ren Chen.

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Re: Please read my bazi with mangpai.
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2020, 05:30:47 AM »
Can you elaborate what aspect will that ren chen LP affect my chart?
Ding ren combination is successful? I thought wood won't succeed in autumn season.
Are there positive impact from ren chen LP?

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Re: Please read my bazi with mangpai.
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2020, 12:49:56 PM »
Ding ren combination is successful? I thought wood won't succeed in autumn season.
Successful?  Are you speaking about the successful transformation into Wood?  Mangpai does not acknowledge transformation, because it "removes" the original elements, which in this case is Fire (Ding) and Water (Ren). 
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Are there positive impact from ren chen LP?
Geng DM produces Ren, and Ren produces Jia.

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Re: Please read my bazi with mangpai.
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2020, 05:44:14 AM »
Geng produces Ren.
Ren produces Jia.
But with Ding removed, Jia is vulnerable to Xin, isn't it?
Can't xin also play part in producing Ren? I remember reading somewhere that Producing cycle takes priority before controlling cycle.

How come Ding is removed but Ren is still there?

I'm sorry for the many questions but this kind of discussion is interesting.  :D

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Re: Please read my bazi with mangpai.
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2020, 08:04:49 PM »
H          D          M         Y
Jia      Geng    Ding       Xin
Shen    Xu        You       Wei

Geng produces Ren.
Ren produces Jia.
But with Ding removed, Jia is vulnerable to Xin, isn't it?
Jia is strengthened by Ren, so it's not vulnerable to Xin. 
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Can't xin also play part in producing Ren? I remember reading somewhere that Producing cycle takes priority before controlling cycle.
Yes, it also can, but this interaction is less important.
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How come Ding is removed but Ren is still there?
Ren is solid, while Ding is unstable.

 

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