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My sons team will win today ?..
« on: November 01, 2020, 12:45:59 PM »
 My son is coach in a teenage football team ...
The contest is starting 9 : 00 in the morning ..!!
I asked before the beginning of the match what will be the Resault  ?
On 12 : 00  i made a phone call to my son for learning the outcome  ..!!
I favour my son's team Self line ..
What is your opinion ?..


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« Last Edit: November 01, 2020, 01:19:15 PM by Tientai »

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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2020, 04:50:06 PM »
It seems that Self will win. At least dominates match, is stronger.

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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 10:52:20 PM »
It seems that Self will win. At least dominates match, is stronger.

Yes dear @Sacrar  ..
You are correct .. my son's team was winning ..
Thanks for participation  ..
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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2020, 08:42:24 PM »
Self line: the month favors it, while the date does not favor it.
Others line: the month overcomes (kills) it, while the date favors it.

And still, the winner is Self line!  Moral of the story: the month is more powerful than the day.

But I remember what Sacrar shared:
I share a quote from Alex Chiu on the influence of Day versus Month.

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Many books taught that if the appointed is struck by the month, the appointed can be described as a dead root with a dying stem.  Even something comes to produce the appointed, the appointed cannot be saved.  If something comes to hurt the appointed, the appointed can be destroyed with ease.  But based on my experience, the power of the month is not as powerful as how other books described.  I personally don't focus too much on the month.  I mainly focus on the date.  I feel that the date is much more crucial than the month.  I feel that the month only has 35% of governing power, and the date has 65% of governing power.   If the month favors the appointed while the date kills the appointed, the appointed star still is healthy.  If the month kills the appointed while the date favors the appointed, the appointed star is strong.  If both the month and the date kills the appointed, the appointed star is dead.
Please note the bold part.  Based on Alex, the Others line is strong, while the Self line is just healthy.  This suggest that the winner is likely to be Others.

In my humble opinion Alex should give more importance to the power of month.
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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2020, 11:10:48 PM »
Dear all .. hi

My view on this case .. is a combined and massive strength on both (month plus Day).. but isn't enough. !!!
On this example I  had the advantage to take account on the hour of the contest .. (was started 9:00 - and ended 11:00) on Si fire hour (was a shining day without any cloud )..!!
On this case Si  fire of hour can  clash Hai water Other's line .. and can support by producing Xu earth Self line ..
The match was very difficult with my son's team to score on the start of first half and trying to hold this score defensively until the end ..!!!
I guess the winner would be another if the weather was cloudy or rainy on this hour or the match was made on Shen - You metal or Hai water  hour .. !!

I agree with Jlim .. that month is much powerful than day branch ..

☆ Additionally (and resuming my above case) .. for short-term cases (E.g. happenings on the same day ) will be of good assistance if will take account the hour of an event (to incorporate as most important factor in strength or good director on indicating the outcome )..
But this factor needs research ..!!
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« Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 07:58:35 AM by Tientai »

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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »
Other line have an overall Qi rating, taking into account day and month, of -2 and Self line of +4.

What has more power seems to lack consensus. It seems to me that the majority opinion is that the month is more important. The book I have in Spanish only takes into account the month to assess the qi of the line. Others say that depending on the type of question and context, one or the other may have more weight.

I also believe that it is a matter of belief and individual experience, not extrapolation, of each one. If one believes that the day is more important (or the year or the hour) then in your queries it will be reflected that it is more important.
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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2020, 11:18:33 AM »
I also believe that it is a matter of belief and individual experience, not extrapolation, of each one. If one believes that the day is more important (or the year or the hour) then in your queries it will be reflected that it is more important.
Hi Sacrar, I do not agree that belief plays a big role in fundamental concepts such as Month vs. Day importance.  If that was so, every time I look at a hexagram that somebody generated, I would have to ask which one (s)he believes is more important before I start to analyze.  Sacrar, I have looked at your hexagram many times, and I do not ask beforehand which view of Month vs. Day that you hold at that time. 
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Re: My sons team will win today ?..
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2020, 11:42:42 AM »
Dear @Sacrar  hi ..

☆ Additionally (and resuming my above case) .. for short-term cases (E.g. happenings on the same day ) will be of good assistance if will take account the hour of an event (to incorporate as most important factor in strength or good director on indicating the outcome )..
But this factor needs research ..!!
Having said that I agree with Jlim ..
If I focused on Hour branch for short term Qeŕies just as football matches etc.. is on investigation and not of acceptance  ..!!
Some of us experimenting what could occurring .. (Par example  I incorporate Hour for short term cases to my works ) ..
This doesn't influence the way you can read an Hexagram ... !!
There is a free choice for that ... unless and until you have an evident success on decipher ..
Tt