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Offline ren

Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« on: January 14, 2021, 06:28:22 PM »
To All,

First I need to state - I know nothing about Western Astrology. But....

I was speaking with a friend yesterday day, she mentioned that due to the Saturn Jupiter conjunction in Aquarius - in opposition to Uranus, some strange changes may occur. That including very strong solar flairs which can cause global disturbances in our electrical grids, satellite communications, etc.

Can someone explain things?

Thanks,

ren

Gmuli

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Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2021, 09:06:20 AM »
Its not just the conjunction , we also may want to look at where they are.


In this case Saturn moved to Aquarius. Already there, thank god...
This is small part of all that is going on, yet here is some little list of what happened last time Saturn was in Aquarius:
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1991:

    Tim Berners-Lee: He built the world’s first website in 1991, creating a page titled "World Wide Web", featuring links to additional pages with information on himself, his team of scientists and the history of the project.

 Dec 21: Soviet Union formally dissolves as 11 of 12 republics sign treaty forming Commonwealth of Independent States

    End of the Gulf war

    Croatian War of Independence

1992:

    Maastricht Treaty signed by 12 countries from the European Community (EC) to create the European Union (EU)

    The Church of England approves the ordination of female priests

    US President George H.W. Bush signs the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA

 Linus Torvalds release the open source operating system “Linux”

1993:

    Canada - First Female Prime Minister

    English mathematician Andrew Wiles proves last theorem of Fermat

    Nelson Mandela and South African President F. W. de Klerk awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

    NASA loses contact with the Mars Observer spacecraft bringing an end to the mission. The development and launch of the spacecraft cost $980 million.

    For the first time Islamic Fundamentalists bomb World Trade Center

1994:

    In the US the First Genetically Engineered Tomatoes become available and the use and sale of GM Foods is approved.

    Tensions start over Inspection of Nuclear Plants in North Korea

    Nelson Mandela sworn in as South Africa's 1st black president

    Amazon.com founded in Bellevue, Washington by Jeff Bezos

    Channel Tunnel opened on May 6th between England and France, a 50.45-kilometre (31.35 mi) railway tunnel that connects Folkestone, Kent, in England, with Coquelles, Pas-de-Calais.

    Worlds First Satellite Digital Television Service Launched

This is small part of it, but it was the first nicely formatted list I found from google.
(its from here https://www.astrologybyariel.com/blogenglish/saturn-in-aquarius)

The time before that was not any less impressive, however I have too much stuff in here and I can't find nice list of what happened back then.
But lets just say it was same pattern, fundamental technological leaps going along with civil rights changes that were echoing for many years after(" I had a dream" speech was also made during that time, Beatles made their first album, so did Bob Dylan, by the way, but there was much, much more then that).

But this is just what happens when Saturn moves to Aquarius.
Now is different. Because Saturn and Jupiter, the so called "Great Conjunction", the conjunction that many consider the Chinese 20 Year periods are based on(even though its not exactly 20 years) for the first time in a long time happens in Aquarius, so an Air sign.

They use to meet time after time in Earth signs, rarely in Fire signs,  that all makes the last few centuries very material in nature.
First time we can breath some open air came a month ago with the conjunction.

And there is much around it... There were unusual eclipses then, the 2 planets were much closer then they have been in a long time and the conjunction was during the solstice... Last part is very important as well, as that is considered to increase the effects of all happening...

But anyway, in short - we expect stuff to get lighter progresivelly, technological leaps and civil rights stuff.

Here comes Uranus as well. That isn't as important, in my view, yet it represents similar "images" in many aspects, yet squaring it and in more severe form.

Uranus is unpredictable, electricity, powerful ideas, chaotic changes etc.  Connected to the coming of new stuff, also very connected to  Chokhmah in Kabbalah(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokhmah).


So that will be opposite the big movement to Air that we are making, currently, also connected with technological leaps and civil movements.
Making it even more messy.

I have great hopes for the next few years.
Much of the most important stuff in the metaphysical schools I consider myself part of, happened during the last time Saturn was in Aquarius. Even if we don't top it this time, I'm more then happy with just the same amount.

(there is much more then this list, by the way, can research the years)

Many view the time ahead, as the actual "precursor" to the "Age of Aquarius". As the real movement is very slow and difficult to measure, we view it as "triggered" by something, so this Conjunction connected to Saturn moving in Aquarius(and there are 7 planets in Aquarius this February) is considered by some astrologers to be it.
I hope they are right.
I do agree that it will be a big push in that direction, although I'm not sure it will get all the way there.

Anyway, so what is Uranus in square to Saturn  and to the movement in Aquarius that is happenging and will go on for a while...

Well, short way to look at Saturn in this case is as the old structure. As it represents the lessons people go through, we can view it as very connected to the current frame people operate in.

So we have the old structure, moving from dense material to lighter stuff.
That is accompanied by technology as well, of course.
And even now, through the changes going on in the world, we can see that many people are starting to use technologies that they stayed away from before.
It was there, they just didn't really utilize it.

We see more and more happenging through internet, as people are keeping distance from each other. However, it could have happened before, yet now seems to be the right time to be utilized.
We also see interest from the old structure to alternative ways of doing stuff... Projects like Divination X of Harvard I mentioned somewhere and other similar stuff...

That seems related to the move of Saturn to Aquarius. Aquarius represents new technologies, ideas, rebellion, spiritual things as well.

So we have the heavy material structure getting lighter as it includes new technologies and point of view.

Uranus, however, we can view as the moment when that spiritual and technological stuff is just too far ahead. Fierce leaps instead of gentle steps there, so basically, it means that the movement that is going on now, for spiritualizing stuff and for applying new technologies to how we do stuff, will have a lot of problems when the new technologies and points of view are just too far ahead and too drastic.

Saturn is willing to give it a chance, its moving to Aquarius, so it will be open to new ways of doing stuff, however, now in too severe way, when it gets too "crazy" it will have problems with that square of Uranus like that.
Uranus is in Taurus. This is "value", so one problem could be the fact that the new technologies or ideas, when too radical may also be too expensive, or too concern with their own "value" to join in the move the humanity is making. That is fine, it will take the more human oriented aspect, the ones focues on their own "value" may create tension there, however.
(difference between a new age seminar costing thousands of $, and one costing 20$, for example, second one can become part of the mainstream flow, first one may create tension).

That shows in many ways, technology behaving in unusual way is also a possibility, sure. Will stop here as its already getting way too big, yet I did plan to write some of these stuffs , before, just for general idea, but never got to it, so its all good I guess.

Edit: Just have to clarify, its not opposition its a square. Opposition is clash, Square doesnt exactly fit to the Five Arts, its challenges, so its something that we need to find a way to overcome.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2021, 09:39:04 AM by Gmuli »

Offline ren

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2021, 04:28:55 PM »
Thanks Gmuli,

I will have to work my way thru what you wrote.

Are their any similar transitions that can be seen within Chinese Metaphysics?

Ren

Gmuli

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Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2021, 05:57:55 PM »
As divination maybe?
QMDj map or hexagrams...it could work.

Hexagram 18 I would guess could give the idea of a type of change that works to get better, because it has to...
Its just a guess, however, I don't really know a way. : )

Offline ren

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2021, 06:28:02 PM »
Hey Gmuli,

What you have described from a Western astrology point of view, I guess is cyclical. That is there are repeating cycles, thus predictable.
Is there something similar within CM? A divination process would be more random and more a snapshot of the current energies?

I guess the real question is - Is there a Chinese astrology counterpart to the Western astrology system described above?

Thanks,

Ren

Offline TenVirtues

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 08:49:25 PM »
Hey Gmuli,

What you have described from a Western astrology point of view, I guess is cyclical. That is there are repeating cycles, thus predictable.
Is there something similar within CM? A divination process would be more random and more a snapshot of the current energies?

I guess the real question is - Is there a Chinese astrology counterpart to the Western astrology system described above?

Thanks,

Ren

Hi Ren! All!

It's been awhile! There is a Chinese Counterpart to Western Astrology it is called QZSY aka 七政四余. Although very few people in the World know QZSY and it's many intricacies.

Offline Dao

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
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Offline ren

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2021, 07:30:48 PM »
Hi All,

Is there any software, websites to plot QZSY charts? Any books in English?

Thanks,

Ren@TenVirtues @Dao

Offline Dao

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
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Offline Hellow

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 09:11:33 AM »
There is a fb group on 七政四余. You can join and learn from them. Just type 七政四余on the group search and join.

Offline ren

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2021, 04:59:53 PM »
Hey All,

Regardless of the times or the climate, I always enjoy the company of my Sisters and Bothers... whenever I can get it.
Glad to hear you all. Hard earned knowledge is wisdom to the young.

Happy learning,

Ren

Offline TenVirtues

Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 11:34:00 PM »
Hi @ren @Dao all!

Yes there is a software called Moira that you can download although i would be very careful which website i download it from as some versions are corrupted.
Also just like in Western Astrology, is split from Tropical and Sidereal. So is QZSY one school of thought focus on Tropical/Sidereal.
I focus and have noticed that QZSY is much more accurate based on Sidereal Method for me Personally but; i also study vedic and fixed star Astrology.
So once you download the Software you have to tweak the settings to get the Sidereal Calculations.

Definitely i have not found any good source of Info on QZSY in English. Most of the QZSY that i have learned is in Chinese.
Hopefully one day we will have more QZSY material in English.

Gmuli

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Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2021, 11:43:26 AM »
Well, we are going through Saturn in Aquarius now good idea to see if we can add some events to that.

I agree with Gahl and other astrologers that best way to learn western astrology is to live through it. We let it accompany our life and we get deeper and deeper in our understanding of how it interacts.
So much better to do it practically and  for that I will post different situations and events that fit to what I expected form Saturn of Aquarius.

For that to be valid, there are some requirements.
  • Its kind of events that haven't happen in at least 20 years.
  • Should be opening up to what we define as Aquarius, often helping people, the planet as a whole or other aspects of life in important enough way while it can also carry connection to technology and new inventions
  • It potentially brings changes that we can follow in the years to come as it did before.

Now, I will list 3 events that I count there, so far, some global, some local for US, yet a lot comes from US to other places, so they do seem important enough. Everyone is free to participate following the 3 requirements, basically
1.Important enough event,
2.Fitting Images of what we expect of Aquarius,
3.Bring lasting change.

And that would be...


First event is this:


This basically is Musk offering 100 million $ price for technologies that clean the carbon(CO2) from the atmosphere.

Lets check the 3 requirements and see.
  • Important enough. This is the largest incentive price offered in the history of humanity as far as we are aware. That suggests it fits into Important enough as it will likely lead to many people all over the world competing to bring the most efficient technology.
  • Well, our environment is very important to everyday life and to humanity, obviously any technology helping the environment falls into what Aquarius governs.
  • Its a lot of money and its connected to long term project that can help humanity move forward, obviously we can expect it will bring lasting change, as the project is 4 years long. Moves like this shift the focus. People that were driven by greed were not very interested in helping the planet, now we have incentive even for people driven by greed to coming together with helping the planet and that can change everything in a lasting way.
Another event that keeps happining lately is in the gaming world. That is the trial of Epic Games vs Apple.
Epic have been doing what they can do open the current way stuff is done, they have been offering free game every few days, some time ago they even offered free one of the most played games at the time.

Now they started making law suits vs Apple that is difficult to go into, yet very important for anyone following the gaming business.

Lets check there.
  • Important enough. Gaming industry in US  for 2020 has reached 67 billion $. 67 billion is a lot, if someone doesn't think its important enough they doesn't get how all this works. : )
  • This is entirely the essence of what we expect of Aquarius, its anti monopoly law suit rooted in freedom and technology.
  • Lasting change... Starting from that, now there are law suits vs Sony for the playstation store exclusivity and vs Valve... This are giant corporation and we talk about a very big change, something we haven't seen since there is gaming industry suggesting no matter how it happens from that point on, this will change a lot.

Last thing I will add it Bidens speech at congress.

  • Important enough. Well, its just speech, from there to actually doing something there is more needed, yet we haven't seen someone actually talking about medical research, the good of the people and all the stuff we can expect from Aquarius in a serious enough way there. He seem to have made community colleges free as well, its good as at least its something pratical in that direction.
  • Again entirely related to Aquarius, new technologies and helping the people is the essence we look at here.
  • Lasting change.... I hope so. But that may be naive, yet no matter what happens from this point on, in the people there there is a spark now, they see how things could be, even if it doesn't happen now, enough has been set to show the people they actually want that.

Will post in some time with update again if it seems appropriate thing to do. Meanwhile if someone wants to join feel free to, Aquarius is explained in great detail all over the net, its technology + freedom for people in idealistic way, more or less. Any important enough event connected to that is nice to mention. :
« Last Edit: May 10, 2021, 11:47:23 AM by Gmuli »

Gmuli

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Re: Solar Flairs in 2021 - Western Astrology
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2021, 06:34:25 PM »
I won't post more events, first its a lot to post second it shouldn't be difficult to follow in our favorite news source.

However, I wanted to add something nice from Gahls weekly videos. He is awesome source for western astrology, by the way and has free weekly videos for people.

So the idea there is that all squares, this is when the planets are at specific degrees of each other, around 90(the 90 degrees most of us know so well from Feng Shui that create the Sha Qi),  However that is part of a cycle, and that cycle starts with their last conjunction and ends with the next one.

Its a story in a sense, it starts 1988 around the time Saturn and Uranus were last conjuncted and it moves around all other relations the 2 planets have to each other, but it always carries the theme that started back then.
They will be on conjunction again 2033 when this theme will be complete.
I won't go into details on what and why is that historically, everyone is free to do with it what they can. : )

All this are too long to go into, there is tons of free info for anyone interested. I can recommend Gahls material, that is here https://cosmicnavigator.com/

 

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