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Offline azizfrost

weak chart?
« on: February 08, 2023, 12:50:12 PM »
hi everyone, is her chart a weak chart? also does the DE on the hour pillar have any effect on the strength of the chart?


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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 04:50:09 PM »
Hi azizfrost,

It's a strong chart based on the Mangpai system.  Here is the reasoning:
1. DM Ren sits on a solid pillar (Ren Chen), because Ren is Water, and Chen is Water Tomb
2. DM Ren is conjoined with Gui Chou. 
    - Gui is obviously Water, which is the same element as Ren
    - Chou is trickier, where in Mangpai Chou is also seen as part of the Water gang/group.  Note: in traditional Bazi, by the way, Chou is seen as Earth that is against DM

And what do you yourself think about the strength?  Opinions are welcome
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2023, 05:31:05 AM »
I am also not sure. I thought it is a weak chart because of too much earth in the chart and no resource element.

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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 10:01:11 AM »
And may I ask what is the implication of strong vs. weak chart for life reading?
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2023, 10:57:20 AM »
to know the favorable and unfavorable elements of the chart.

if DM is strong: wealth, output and power elements are favorable.
if DM is weak: self and resource elements are favorable. 

this is what I've read  ;D still learning

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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2023, 02:50:56 PM »
So what is his life story? Is he a business owner?
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2023, 04:05:52 PM »
Hi Newman,

The child is a she and approx 1 years old.

Ren  ;D

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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2023, 03:41:29 PM »
 :D
In your view what will her career be? Business or just salary worker?
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2023, 05:23:32 AM »
Business owner.  Here are the reasons:
1. Wealth Ding is located in the Host, which means the wealth is her own
2. Officers Wei and Chen are located in the Host, too, so she likes to become her own boss
3. She also has an Internal Eating God structure, so she hires people (instead of people hiring her). 
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2023, 06:24:20 AM »
Business owner.  Here are the reasons:
1. Wealth Ding is located in the Host, which means the wealth is her own
2. Officers Wei and Chen are located in the Host, too, so she likes to become her own boss
3. She also has an Internal Eating God structure, so she hires people (instead of people hiring her).

if she is a strong water DM. does it mean that she will not be so lucky on her early years? because of too much self and resource elements on luck pillar?

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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2023, 08:08:54 AM »
Tks JLim
I also think she will open her own business or work with government.


In your view Do you think she will go for wood related career or water base career?  Her month is chou. Should be water right?
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2023, 02:10:26 PM »
Yes, NewMan, I agree that Water is better than Wood for her business.  The two Ren, Gui and Chen all are Water elements, with Chen being Water Tomb

@azizfrost the earlier Water and wet luck pillars are very good actually.  You see, the methodology in Mangpai is very different than the favorable elements as determined with traditional Bazi.
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2023, 09:18:25 AM »
so mingpai bazi is not balancing the chart? only traditional bazi balance the chart?

 I'm very confused now   :D

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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2023, 11:40:55 AM »
It's Mangpai, not Mingpai.  Please trust me that balancing the chart is not the method to determine auspiciousness.  I switched from traditional Bazi to Mangpai Bazi some years ago
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Re: weak chart?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2023, 10:34:45 AM »
oh sorry. mangpai  :)

guess i have to learn more  :D

how about shen sha? is that part of mang pai?