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Gmuli

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Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2023, 08:47:43 AM »
Hey @Gomhoainam ,

Well...I guess my reading is off  :(
Sorry, I couldn't be of much help.

Thanks for the feedback though.
Appreciate it!

Hi.
I think Eating God, because its Indirect(different polarity) may be more turned 'within'.
While Xu dog, makes frame with Yin tiger and they 'search' for Fire/People. So isn't focusing on expression much.

Otherwise the premise is true, they do create stuff, but I think sometimes it may be creating within them(inner dialog, instead of outer one etc.)]

Just a guess, though who knows at the end, maybe he just balanced the expressive side hehe
Idk, just some ideas why it may be off at times.

Offline aeonrel

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2023, 10:45:50 AM »
@Gmuli ,

I caught the Eating God part, but wasn't able to rationalize for the rest of his experiences.

Shall read up on the Xu and Yin interaction. Interesting to expand on my bazi knowledge for accuracy  :)

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2023, 10:56:07 AM »
Rob Wealth is more like competition. It may indicate shared wealth/resources, your loss is other's gain, you have to lose something to win other things etc ==> I agree with you

I heard many bad things about earth punishment. From my observation, they're usually bad for relationship and behavioral issues. Not quite damaging for career/wealth.
==> Thank you! So that's it
In terms of house ownership, you must focus on the quality of life inside the house and the spiritual side of everyone. It should be perceived as a home/sanctuary, not asset/social status.
==> I don't really understand what you mean
I am still full of difficulties and challenges I don't have much money, a nice house or a nice car but a lot of people hate me and don't like me from relatives, friends, my neighbors don't understand why they don't like me? I don't know what I do to them that they don't like? I was able to do the job I loved, but since then I have become more lonely and everyone avoids me.

Don't keep all the money to yourself. They probably need your help/attention too. Sometimes it's not much, sometimes it's a lot.

If we still need continual support from people whom we called friends and family, then we must 'invest' for that accordingly==> I'm not a selfish person. If my loved ones are in trouble, I'm ready to help! The problem here is not about money

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2023, 10:59:54 AM »
Hey @Gomhoainam ,

Well...I guess my reading is off  :(
Sorry, I couldn't be of much help.

Thanks for the feedback though.
Appreciate it!

Hi.
I think Eating God, because its Indirect(different polarity) may be more turned 'within'.
While Xu dog, makes frame with Yin tiger and they 'search' for Fire/People. So isn't focusing on expression much.

Otherwise the premise is true, they do create stuff, but I think sometimes it may be creating within them(inner dialog, instead of outer one etc.)]

Just a guess, though who knows at the end, maybe he just balanced the expressive side hehe
Idk, just some ideas why it may be off at times.
Hi gmuli!
Thank you for your interest. Can you explain more clearly what you said? I read it but don't understand

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2023, 11:08:13 AM »
@Gmuli ,

I caught the Eating God part, but wasn't able to rationalize for the rest of his experiences.

Shall read up on the Xu and Yin interaction. Interesting to expand on my bazi knowledge for accuracy  :)
thank you aeonrel

Online coldpillow

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2023, 12:07:18 PM »

I'm not a selfish person. If my loved ones are in trouble, I'm ready to help! The problem here is not about money

Whatever the problem is, the relationship is competitive. You should find out what made them competitive/hostile towards you.

There are 2 reasons I can think about: money-related issues or lack of attention.

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2023, 01:34:42 PM »

I'm not a selfish person. If my loved ones are in trouble, I'm ready to help! The problem here is not about money

Whatever the problem is, the relationship is competitive. You should find out what made them competitive/hostile towards you.

There are 2 reasons I can think about: money-related issues or lack of attention.
exactly a competitive relationship. I find that when I do something even though I don't brag, they act unhappy and say negative things to make me lose interest I feel like they are jealous.

Online coldpillow

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2023, 03:02:27 PM »
I find that when I do something even though I don't brag, they act unhappy and say negative things to make me lose interest I feel like they are jealous.

You should ask them directly, especially your relatives. There must be underlying issues, which they keep to themselves... until it becomes toxic.

Ask everyone how they're doing, is there any problem? etc. Basically, focus more on other people.

 

Gmuli

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Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2023, 03:47:27 PM »
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Hi gmuli!
Thank you for your interest. Can you explain more clearly what you said? I read it but don't understand

Hi!
Seems to show a lot of thinking about people and wealth in short. : )

I don't really know long term stuff much... But one way to read it is that...

Lets say you see someone close to you.
Month pillar activates. There are few processes that may run at the same time.

Ding DM vs Bing MP.
Bing sees Ding as not active enough, not 'awake' enough etc.
While Ding can see Bing as taking too much space, overshadowing them etc.

That suggests one may tend to view people nearby as very important creating tension from that.

Yin and Chou create hidden combination of Fire. Fire is Sibling/People.
Suggests one may have the feeling something important is missing when around other people, and it relates to 'Sibling/People' Images. Seeking it out or allowing it to create nervesness may be problem as well.
Yin controls Chou making that worse.

Chou is Tomb of Wealth, also is very stable by itself(I am presence etc.)
So people may tend to look for stability in the person yet on the surface they see something else.

Why there are problems with nearby people... I don't know, no idea what you have balanced already. But initially, there may be this contradiction, very stable inner world(Chou) focused on inner Wealth and looking for it outside(all controling Chou), yet on the surface DM is thinking a lot about what other people will like and how to make space for them.
Understanding the process(may not be exactly this but should be something similar) then moving beyond it and much could heal.

Focusing on centerness, inner worth and not be influenced that strongly by people around is a nice step. Meditations could help etc.
Just my view of course and this usually works only if one can verify it physically, so its a guess at best like this.

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2023, 04:36:13 PM »
I find that when I do something even though I don't brag, they act unhappy and say negative things to make me lose interest I feel like they are jealous.

You should ask them directly, especially your relatives. There must be underlying issues, which they keep to themselves... until it becomes toxic.

Ask everyone how they're doing, is there any problem? etc. Basically, focus more on other people.
I asked them once but they did not answer. I thought a lot and now I understand why they don't like me, it's all because of jealousy, every time I achieve something they become bored and angry they don't want me to become better than them because this makes them humiliated

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2023, 04:49:14 PM »
Quote
Hi gmuli!
Thank you for your interest. Can you explain more clearly what you said? I read it but don't understand

Hi!
Seems to show a lot of thinking about people and wealth in short. : )

I don't really know long term stuff much... But one way to read it is that...

Lets say you see someone close to you.
Month pillar activates. There are few processes that may run at the same time.

Ding DM vs Bing MP.
Bing sees Ding as not active enough, not 'awake' enough etc.
While Ding can see Bing as taking too much space, overshadowing them etc.

That suggests one may tend to view people nearby as very important creating tension from that.

Yin and Chou create hidden combination of Fire. Fire is Sibling/People.
Suggests one may have the feeling something important is missing when around other people, and it relates to 'Sibling/People' Images. Seeking it out or allowing it to create nervesness may be problem as well.
Yin controls Chou making that worse.

Chou is Tomb of Wealth, also is very stable by itself(I am presence etc.)
So people may tend to look for stability in the person yet on the surface they see something else.

Why there are problems with nearby people... I don't know, no idea what you have balanced already. But initially, there may be this contradiction, very stable inner world(Chou) focused on inner Wealth and looking for it outside(all controling Chou), yet on the surface DM is thinking a lot about what other people will like and how to make space for them.
Understanding the process(may not be exactly this but should be something similar) then moving beyond it and much could heal.

Focusing on centerness, inner worth and not be influenced that strongly by people around is a nice step. Meditations could help etc.
Just my view of course and this usually works only if one can verify it physically, so its a guess at best like this.
I don't know if this knowledge comes from bazi mang pai, but I remember correctly that I read somewhere that "Bing took away Ding's light." This probably shows why I have many people who want to compete with me. Competing with myself like that is all jealousy. They don't want me to become more successful than them. Now I understand what I need to do.
Thank you very much for your reply

Online coldpillow

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2023, 05:23:36 PM »

I thought a lot and now I understand why they don't like me, it's all because of jealousy, every time I achieve something they become bored and angry they don't want me to become better than them because this makes them humiliated

I suggest you to remove that thought. :) Maybe you have a point, but others have too.

As long as you live close to your family and you still need their support, then you have to remain humble. Beware of your own competitive streak, focus more on inner peace and joy.

Always open your mind and accept with a big heart that you have a lot of flaws. Just like everyone else. ;)

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2023, 05:42:47 PM »

I thought a lot and now I understand why they don't like me, it's all because of jealousy, every time I achieve something they become bored and angry they don't want me to become better than them because this makes them humiliated


As long as you live close to your family and you still need their support, then you have to remain humble. Beware of your own competitive streak, focus more on inner peace and joy.


You have misunderstood my meaning. I told you that when I succeed, only my parents and sister congratulate and support me. My family always supports and supports me a lot. I never complain or blame my family
The problem is that people are relatives, friends or neighbors who are always annoyed when I achieve something.
why do they hate me when i don't offend them it's absurd
I think I shouldn't discuss this anymore because it's misleading. Thank you very much cowpillow for your kindness.

Gmuli

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Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2023, 06:25:17 PM »
They don't want me to become more successful than them.


But this is your chart. : )
So all that we observe here is your process in relating to your environment.
How that environment may look etc.

Lets say... Imagine a car. We see it may be painted in specific way, it moves in specific way etc.
If we see, for example, that it doesn't move straigth but swings from left to right while driving fast, in the other lanes etc  we can say stuff about other cars and its surronding now. It will likely make other drivers nervous, they will stay away. Will try to give it space. may bring road law problems etc.

But this is not because we know anything about them, that is in their chart. That is because that is how they respond to your chart. : )
Anyway, in short - you can change whatever you want in your approach to stuff(your chart). They dont play a role in any of this directly, they just respond to how you use your chart, in the only way they can have.

If they compete or are jealous then there is something that brings that forth. At least in general, there are exceptions, but I don't think that is the case here. : )

Offline Gomhoainam

Re: please help me read my chart!
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2023, 06:57:14 PM »
They don't want me to become more successful than them.


But this is your chart. : )
So all that we observe here is your process in relating to your environment.
How that environment may look etc.

Lets say... Imagine a car. We see it may be painted in specific way, it moves in specific way etc.
If we see, for example, that it doesn't move straigth but swings from left to right while driving fast, in the other lanes etc  we can say stuff about other cars and its surronding now. It will likely make other drivers nervous, they will stay away. Will try to give it space. may bring road law problems etc.

But this is not because we know anything about them, that is in their chart. That is because that is how they respond to your chart. : )
Anyway, in short - you can change whatever you want in your approach to stuff(your chart). They dont play a role in any of this directly, they just respond to how you use your chart, in the only way they can have.

If they compete or are jealous then there is something that brings that forth. At least in general, there are exceptions, but I don't think that is the case here. : )
My environment is very competitive. I live in a pottery village. there are a lot of pottery establishments just like me
gmuli thank you!
I don't think I should discuss my relationship anymore. Because my words are only from one side, you and cowpillow will have a hard time believing my words are true and misunderstand me thinking I am an unpleasant and not humble person.

 

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