FU YIN...really scared

[icarus2712]

URGH! After you shared your birth location and I re-calculated, ren and JLim is correct. Gui Si is the correct solar birth hour. The change from originally Jia Wu throws my entire analysis off, because Jia is now not present for damage, and Wu is not present to suppress your Zi water.
I was so baffled after your feedback being so different.

Lesson learnt: always check for birth location first.

Let me try again:

With the new Gui hour, there is a natural Wu-Gui combination in your heavenly stems.
Gui is your expression element, Wu is your support element.
Being expressive is easy to understand - what I don't know exactly is what the Support element is referring to.
Support can be mother, house, reputation, status, learning, medical treatment, etc…things that help you.
For a natural combine that last a lifetime, I am going to throw a guess that your expressiveness has some effect on your reputation?

For Feb 2011, I can't really catch your promotion. I don't really see an increase in career luck or support element that month. Unless the promotion was predetermined earlier and Feb was just a formality, otherwise I guess I have to do more bazi learning.

Regarding the "crash", interestingly, from 6th May 2011 to 5th June 2011, it is the Gui Si month - which fits your Fu Yin worries. I suspect the crash point is 1st June (Ding Hai day) or 2nd June (Wu Zi day). It could be 1st June because Ding clashes the month's Gui stem and Hai clashes the month's Si branch. Since Fu Yin, they are exposed stem and branch, and that sets off the chain crash. Could be 2nd June too, where the day's Wu forms a combination with the month's Gui, and in the branches, the day's Zi clashes with the month's Si, setting off the chain crash.

For June 2013, it will probably be 2nd June (Hai in the branch) or 3rd June (Zi in the branch). Again, the water clashes with the now 4, possibly 5 times exposed Si fire, bringing extremely bad luck to your career and likely the loss of your job.

In the same month, 5th June and onwards, the month's element changes to Wu Wu. The Wu in the stem forms additional combine with the year's Gui water and means a further reduction in support element, which explains for the loss of home and the moving.

For June 2015, has to happen on 4th June (Si fire in month branch, Hai water in day branch) or 5th June (Si fire in month branch, Zi water in day branch). Once again, the water clashes with the Si fire in a chain crash fashion due to exposed Si in luck and hour pillar. Could also be 1st June (Shen branch day) too, as Shen forms a combine with Si fire and can set off a chain removal. But since Shen metal is your peer element, then the source of losing job has to involve peers. But if you left out of your own frustration, then it will be the former case of water meets fire.

For 2016, the loss of house is not that obvious from your natal chart + luck pillar + annual pillar analysis. A lot problems with career though, with Geng clashing with Bing fire on the heavenly stems, and Shen-Si combination with Si exposed on Hour and Day pillars. Does not mean you will lose your job during this period, but you will face stronger career-related challenges. The potential month where loss of house is higher is 8th Oct - 6th Nov, during the Wu Xu month. Both Wu and Xu are your support element and Xu will be exposed during this period. At a day this month when both are injured, all your support luck will be wiped out and hence where I think the highest chance of losing the house.

For June 2019, any day from 1st June to 5th June (which falls under the Ji Si month) is possible. The year's Hai water branch already have the potential to clash with the month's Si branch and start the chain reaction. There is a very, very interesting time slot of 9am-11am on 1st June, because that is a Si hour on a Si day in a Si month, of a Si luck pillar with exposed Si branch on the hour pillar. If you want to count to the minutes, any water branch minute within 9am-11am would set off the career chain crash. Either that or 4th June where there is a Shen branch combine with Si fire. But again, that will more likely be a case of peer involvement.

Since you said 100% true that you walk away from your job in frustration, then it will be more logical it is a water clash with Si fire case for all job loss scenarios.

Please critique my above reading.
I need to back test my technique and improve.

As for marriage, could you indicate which year? It is too time consuming to check every June of every of your adult years till today.

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Ok, now, let's assume back test is successful.
So the point here is to help you prepare for the future.

Learning from this analysis that your chart is very susceptible to exposed branch/stem issues, I will point out some danger points in your upcoming months and years:

8th Oct - 7th Nov 2023
Xu earth is exposed in the branches this month. Xu is your support element.
Xu will form a combination with the year's Mao and wipe out your support elements.
Whether this pertains to your house, I am not sure. As mentioned above, support element covers many things.

Luck Pillars 2024-2033 and 2034-2043
Wealth luck is affected with Geng clashing with Jia wood in 2024-2033, and Geng combining with Yi wood from 2034-2043. Wood is your wealth luck.
Wealth luck covers not just money, but relationship with females (spouse), and also relationship with father, your time - things of value in general.

For 2025
Si is exposed again on the branch, so career is under threat once again.
High risk months are May 2025, Dec 2025 - Jan 2026, where the Si will get injured and set off a chain crash again.

There are of course, unlimited things to assess for the future, so I shall offer up to this point for now (tired from all the analysis). If you have any specific point you wish to look at, let me know again.

"nless the promotion was predetermined earlier and Feb was just a formality, otherwise I guess I have to do more bazi learning."

>>>It was decided somewhere is december , not sure about dates but sowmwhere aroud that month, and wa ANNOUNCED in February. So you are right there.

"from 6th May 2011 to 5th June 2011, "

 >>I dont remember the date in June but it was definately not 1st .

'For June 2013, it will probably be 2nd June (Hai in the branch) or 3rd June (Zi in the branch). Again, the water clashes with the now 4, possibly 5 times exposed Si fire, bringing extremely bad luck to your career and likely the loss of your job.'

>>> I resigned from job exactly on may 28 2013, around 14:28 hours, i still remember.

As for marriage, could you indicate which year?

15 june 1997, My spouse is not keeping well since 2015 onwards, is that due to DM being attacked by fire?

If you have any specific point you wish to look at, let me know again"

>> Currently I am financially dependent upon my daughter unfortunately her time of birth was not noted. Cannot check her chart. How long will I be dependent on her, also any chance through her I can buy a house in future? I have attached her chart in case you want to study.

thanks

[aeonrel]

Now, come to think of it, the specific dates may need some solar time adjustment for accuracy.
It may push the dates forward or back by up to a day.
So I guess I shouldn't evaluate down to specific dates unless I have full location details.
But in general, evaluation up till the month can still be trusted, unless it happens around the days crossing over to the next month.

My spouse is not keeping well since 2015 onwards, is that due to DM being attacked by fire?

What do you mean by "not keeping well"?
I can only tell your relationship luck with your spouse, but if it is health related, we need to look at her chart, not yours.

Regarding the questions with your daughter, I can't deduce such specific events. Perhaps there will be better chance through her chart. But without the Hour Pillar, I cannot do a proper reading. I also will not do a partial reading with just the Day, Month and Year Pillars as what little can be deduced can be highly inaccurate. Maybe you can try other bazi schools.

[icarus2712]

Now, come to think of it, the specific dates may need some solar time adjustment for accuracy.
It may push the dates forward or back by up to a day.
So I guess I shouldn't evaluate down to specific dates unless I have full location details.
But in general, evaluation up till the month can still be trusted, unless it happens around the days crossing over to the next month.

My spouse is not keeping well since 2015 onwards, is that due to DM being attacked by fire?

What do you mean by "not keeping well"?
I can only tell your relationship luck with your spouse, but if it is health related, we need to look at her chart, not yours.

Regarding the questions with your daughter, I can't deduce such specific events. Perhaps there will be better chance through her chart. But without the Hour Pillar, I cannot do a proper reading. I also will not do a partial reading with just the Day, Month and Year Pillars as what little can be deduced can be highly inaccurate. Maybe you can try other bazi schools.

my wife chart , neck spondylysis , acidity and breathing issues

[Goldman]

HI @icarus2712

Did you by any chance at an opportunity to work with prestigious people but the terms were too unfavorable for you?
and then everything turned bad after that?

May I know what do you work as? Your chart is suitable to be a civil servant / in a bigger organization for your younger days.

Best,
Goldman

Yes, have had many opportunities to work for large banks,  as said earlier till 2011 June it was all wonderful, in fact in Feb 2011, I was promoted too, but suddenly after June 2011
All crashed. 2013 June left the job. Really bad times after that.

Hi Icarus

I hesitated to comment much for your case. I'll go out on a limb.
At age 35 onwards, you started to be involved with a much wider career circle, you get to know many influential people.
It was supposed to be a brilliant career / working relationship but eventually didn't work out. Matter of fact, from age 35 onwards,
the seeds of "hope and then failure" was already sowed. I saw that you mentioned that you'd over spent.
Indeed, its either your health reason or extravagant been the reason for it.

While the issue erupted in 2011 & 2013, there were already problem surfacing in 2006 - 2008.
2008 should had been a problematic year as well.

On your concern on Luck Pillar Jia Wu, my first advice for you is on Peach Blossom issue, you have to be careful because if you get involved in one,
you will at losing end, potential extortion, etc. First few years are still challenging, 2029 onwards will have a good breather.

Best,
Goldman

[icarus2712]

Hi Goldman,
well, as JLIM mentioned, I have a different hour pillar.

http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1543.msg12565#msg12565

[aeonrel]

@icarus2712

Your wife is born in GMT 0 time zone at longitude 0?
Doesn't look right, so I don't think the Hour Pillar is accurate.

However, the remaining pillars should be trustworthy, and I took a quick look at 2015.
In 2015, Luck Pillar is Jia Zi, Annual Pillar is Yi Wei.
Birth Month Pillar Geng combines with Annual Pillar Yi.
Birth Month Year Chou combines with Luck Pillar Zi.
So Metal, Wood, Earth and Water all suffered a reduction in 2025.

Did a quick google research on neck spondylosis, which I assume is the same as cervical spondylosis and how Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) views it.
So according to TCM rules:

• Metal = Lungs
• Wood = Liver, which governs ligaments
• Earth = Stomach & Spleen, which governs muscles
• Water = Kidney, which governs bones

TCM views cervical spondylosis as a combination of ligaments, muscles and bones problem, which happens to match the weakening of Wood, Earth and Water in your wife's chart.
Acidity is also a digestive system issue, so I guess it falls under Earth.
And finally, breathing issues might fall under Metal.

Now, TCM isn't my forte, and I might just very well be lucky that these all line up together nicely.
I also don't know if your wife have all these issues coming together within 2015 or over the years.
If all within 2015, then the reading is a little more trustworthy.

Also, we shouldn't use Bazi as a health diagnostic tool because each element governs so many areas of one's life.
It can serve as a second opinion to explore, or something to be careful as one enters into advanced age.

[icarus2712]

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I cross checked with Joey Yapp calculator, hour.pillar is accurate.
She was operated for thyroid neck in 2016 Feb, eversince after that she is having all
Those issues.

[Goldman]

well, as JLIM mentioned, I have a different hour pillar.

http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1543.msg12565#msg12565

My comments is regardless whether the hour pillar is Jia Wu or Gui Si . On the years that has passed, if it’s not true you can say so. For the years to come, well, good luck.

Best,
Goldman

[icarus2712]

HI @icarus2712

Did you by any chance at an opportunity to work with prestigious people but the terms were too unfavorable for you?
and then everything turned bad after that?

May I know what do you work as? Your chart is suitable to be a civil servant / in a bigger organization for your younger days.

Best,
Goldman

Yes, have had many opportunities to work for large banks,  as said earlier till 2011 June it was all wonderful, in fact in Feb 2011, I was promoted too, but suddenly after June 2011
All crashed. 2013 June left the job. Really bad times after that.

Hi Icarus

I hesitated to comment much for your case. I'll go out on a limb.
At age 35 onwards, you started to be involved with a much wider career circle, you get to know many influential people.
It was supposed to be a brilliant career / working relationship but eventually didn't work out. Matter of fact, from age 35 onwards,
the seeds of "hope and then failure" was already sowed. I saw that you mentioned that you'd over spent.
Indeed, its either your health reason or extravagant been the reason for it.

While the issue erupted in 2011 & 2013, there were already problem surfacing in 2006 - 2008.
2008 should had been a problematic year as well.

On your concern on Luck Pillar Jia Wu, my first advice for you is on Peach Blossom issue, you have to be careful because if you get involved in one,
you will at losing end, potential extortion, etc. First few years are still challenging, 2029 onwards will have a good breather.

Best,
Goldman

well, as JLIM mentioned, I have a different hour pillar.

http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1543.msg12565#msg12565

My comments is regardless whether the hour pillar is Jia Wu or Gui Si . On the years that has passed, if it’s not true you can say so. For the years to come, well, good luck.

Best,
Goldman

No issues started from June 2011 as said.

[Goldman]

No issues started from June 2011 as said.

I'd nothing to add. There are many signs 2006 is a bad year, but good to know that you were not affected.

Best,
Goldman.

[JLim (Darma W)]

Hi All, to avoid confusion and better topic maintenance, it's better to discuss the wife's chart in a new topic.