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Offline kiwi

Help read my brother's bazi
« on: October 18, 2023, 03:37:31 PM »
Hi all,

Appreciate if anyon could help me read a little on my brother's bazi.

13 Oct 1993, 4pm, male.

My brother's a mature and independent person and has recently went to work in another country with higher exchange rate, lol. So I say he should be earning well and is able to care for our parents financially. But recently, he has been borrowing money from me and has withdrawn my parents money to cover his credit card bills.My brother can be a risk take when it cmes to investments but never to this point.

Hence, would like to know by reading his bazi are you guys able to tell about his wealth luck etc. etc.?

Thank you

Offline aeonrel

Re: Help read my brother's bazi
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2023, 04:30:28 AM »
Hi @kiwi ,

From your previous posts, you mentioned you were born in Malaysia, so I am going to assume your brother was born there as well.
If my assumption is correct, then attached chart 1 should correctly reflect your brother's Bazi, adjusted for solar time.

I think from a personality perspective, I would infer his risk-taker attitude from the following (refer chart 2):
  • 戊 earth (output) suppressing 壬 water (officer), suggesting his expressive self tends to suppress his willingness to play by rules.
  • 卯 wood (ethics/parents) combines with 戌 earth (output), eliminating both, suggesting his expressive self has a tendency to be detrimental to his ethical values, as well as a bit of a problem for your parents.
  • This leaves him mainly with unharmed wealth elements (申 and 酉 metals) in the branches, suggesting he is focused on going after things that brings value and benefits to him.
So overall, he has a tendency to go after what he wants, sometimes against social norms, hence the risk-taker attitude effect.

For 2023 (refer to chart 2 again), I would say the image of him overspending lies mainly on the 申 clash 卯 in the branches.
It shows his money aspect of life curbing his wood, which covers both "doing the right thing" and "parents"(or the greater family support system, including you).
This will explain him, in an attempt to achieve what he wants, foregoes what should be the right thing to do, and instead, overspends, and is now taking money from his support system to cover for it.

Luckily, in 2024 (甲辰 year), the 申 clash 卯 effect goes away, because 卯 is no longer around to be suppressed, paving way for more earth (辰) to grow the 申 metal wealth luck.
So I think this money woes is only temporary.
Also, in the 2024 stem, 甲 wood comes in to suppress his 戊 earth, which suggest he will be more obedient next year, perhaps after learning his lesson from this 2023 episode.

Curious though, and I am not sure if there is any correlation, but I see for 2023 in the stems, his 戊 earth combines with 2x 癸 water.
This combination makes him lose 2x officer luck at a go, which makes me wonder if he is having problems at work?
Could he have lost his job recently, or pay cut of sorts, hence he couldn't support his needs financially?

Offline kiwi

Re: Help read my brother's bazi
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2023, 02:37:38 PM »
Hi @kiwi ,

From your previous posts, you mentioned you were born in Malaysia, so I am going to assume your brother was born there as well.
If my assumption is correct, then attached chart 1 should correctly reflect your brother's Bazi, adjusted for solar time.

I think from a personality perspective, I would infer his risk-taker attitude from the following (refer chart 2):
  • 戊 earth (output) suppressing 壬 water (officer), suggesting his expressive self tends to suppress his willingness to play by rules.
  • 卯 wood (ethics/parents) combines with 戌 earth (output), eliminating both, suggesting his expressive self has a tendency to be detrimental to his ethical values, as well as a bit of a problem for your parents.
  • This leaves him mainly with unharmed wealth elements (申 and 酉 metals) in the branches, suggesting he is focused on going after things that brings value and benefits to him.
So overall, he has a tendency to go after what he wants, sometimes against social norms, hence the risk-taker attitude effect.

For 2023 (refer to chart 2 again), I would say the image of him overspending lies mainly on the 申 clash 卯 in the branches.
It shows his money aspect of life curbing his wood, which covers both "doing the right thing" and "parents"(or the greater family support system, including you).
This will explain him, in an attempt to achieve what he wants, foregoes what should be the right thing to do, and instead, overspends, and is now taking money from his support system to cover for it.

Luckily, in 2024 (甲辰 year), the 申 clash 卯 effect goes away, because 卯 is no longer around to be suppressed, paving way for more earth (辰) to grow the 申 metal wealth luck.
So I think this money woes is only temporary.
Also, in the 2024 stem, 甲 wood comes in to suppress his 戊 earth, which suggest he will be more obedient next year, perhaps after learning his lesson from this 2023 episode.

Curious though, and I am not sure if there is any correlation, but I see for 2023 in the stems, his 戊 earth combines with 2x 癸 water.
This combination makes him lose 2x officer luck at a go, which makes me wonder if he is having problems at work?
Could he have lost his job recently, or pay cut of sorts, hence he couldn't support his needs financially?

Hi aeonrel,

Thanks again for helping me read. I do hope this is temporary as I've never seen my brother so stressed out before, making my parents stressed as well. Would you say base on his chart he'll do fine doing investment/stocks/etc.? Or is it best that he should just stick to earning fix salary?

I'm not sure about his job but he did mentioned the company was stressful and difficult to work in. If I don't consider the exchange...then yeah there's a pay drop.

Offline aeonrel

Re: Help read my brother's bazi
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2023, 06:10:46 PM »
Hi @kiwi ,

HANG ON!
In my haste, I made a mistake for my 2024 reading.
I forgot to consider combines for 2024.

Please refer to attached chart 3.
  • In 2024, 甲 wood will actually be combined with the decade luck stem 己 earth, so he is going to overlook his values again. His personality will still clash with his work (戊 earth clash 壬 water). 辰 earth will combine with 酉 metal, hence he won't get to enjoy earth growing wealth, but earth taking away his wealth instead.
  • 2025 will be worse, with 巳申 combining and 午 clashing 酉 in the branches, eliminating all the metal wealth luck on his chart. He will continue to face challenges at work with the way he functions because double 戊 earth (expression) combines with 癸 water (job luck).
  • In 2026, double wealth loss continues with 2x 午 clashing away 申 and 酉. Challenges at work continues.
  • 2025-2034 in general, he will always face money problems with 午 clashing away 申 and challenges at work due to double 戊 earth combining with 癸 water.
Summary overview:
He will be facing wealth challenges in the coming decade.
Looking at the immediate few years, I think investment/stocks should be especially avoided because his 酉 metal is getting combined away or injured.
酉 metal is his indirect wealth, which refers to income from non-proper channels such as stocks, gambling, lottery, investment.
Even his direct wealth 申 is also getting injured or combined away over the coming decade, but I think having a poor fixed salary is still better than poor bets on indirect income streams.
His stress at work will also be sustained.

Actually, I did not put in the chart, but the 2 decades after next will still give him problems in terms of wealth.
  • 2035-2044 丁巳 Pillar, 巳 will combine with 申 wealth again
  • 2045-2054 丙辰 Pillar, 辰 will combine with 酉 wealth again
So I think it is better he change from risk-taker that one to just follow the rules and work diligently.
Utilize his 壬 direct officer to obediently serve a company and earn fixed salary.
He will feel suppressed (壬 water suppressing 丁 Day Master), but at least it is a financially safer route.

Online coldpillow

Re: Help read my brother's bazi
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2023, 11:54:16 AM »
His borrowing habit is a warning sign. He should spend and invest his money more wisely.

His wealth luck is good enough to feed a small family but easily "vaporized" due to his reckless habits.

Marriage life with more than 1 kid doesn't look particularly good for his finances. If your parents are still under his care, better delay marriage.

Don't push him too hard with financial burden so he's not desperate, looking for get-rich-quick investment or other fraudulent schemes.

Offline kiwi

Re: Help read my brother's bazi
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2023, 03:53:44 AM »
Hi @aeonrel, thanks again for such a comprehensive reading. I am worried he might try his hands on all these investments again as the years go. I just got to know he was playing with cryptos...from what you've said, my brother doesn't have much luck in these things  :-\.

Hii @coldpillow, we try not to burden him financially as my parents are also working but I guess he feel responsible to do so.