What Do You Think About Human Design (HD) ?

[Marlisakurniaty]

As of my last knowledge update from TIKTOK, Human Design has been gaining popularity in various circles, particularly in wellness, personal development, and spirituality. Human Design is a metaphysical system that combines elements of astrology, the I Ching, Kabbalah, and the chakra system to create a personalized chart or "body graph" for individuals.

What do you think about this? Is this relate to fengshui or Bazi?

Please let me know what you see.

[Spiritsfan]

As of my last knowledge update from TIKTOK, Human Design has been gaining popularity in various circles, particularly in wellness, personal development, and spirituality. Human Design is a metaphysical system that combines elements of astrology, the I Ching, Kabbalah, and the chakra system to create a personalized chart or "body graph" for individuals.

What do you think about this? Is this relate to fengshui or Bazi?

Please let me know what you see.

Kabbalah is matriarchy.  Jews look at kinship through the mother.  These systems are not compatible because they are designed for souls of different levels of maturity.  If this system in TikTok is good, it’s just another dud.  In everything you listed there are gods.  And they are different in different systems.  Read primary source texts.  So as not to spoil your karma with the wrath of the Gods.

[Shanee]

As of my last knowledge update from TIKTOK, Human Design has been gaining popularity in various circles, particularly in wellness, personal development, and spirituality. Human Design is a metaphysical system that combines elements of astrology, the I Ching, Kabbalah, and the chakra system to create a personalized chart or "body graph" for individuals.

What do you think about this? Is this relate to fengshui or Bazi?

Please let me know what you see.

If you want to search for deeper topics such as spirituality and stuff, stay away from Tiktok.
That app is full of shit. Just as Spiritsfan mentioned, find and read primary source text.

[Gmuli]

Haven't studied that. It has shown up here and there through the years, but never had reasons to think its for me, so have successfully ignored it so far. I plan to keep ignoring it moving forward.

[Silverfoxxx]

I am having doubts on it.Because it only uses birthdays and birth years and no birth times.Like we surely have alot of birth twins but we have different very different lives.

[Marlisakurniaty]

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I am having doubts on it.Because it only uses birthdays and birth years and no birth times.Like we surely have alot of birth twins but we have different very different lives.
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Actually, human design tools use time of birth to define characteristic. Just like I entered my born date and born time into bazi calculator tools.


I wonder why people sceptical with this tools when they dont event know yet evout this 

[Spiritsfan]

[quote author =Silverfoxxx link=topic=1626.msg13473#msg13473 date=1702919828]
I am having doubts on it.Because it only uses birthdays and birth years and no birth times.Like we surely have alot of birth twins but we have different very different lives.

Actually, human design tools use time of birth to define characteristic. Just like I entered my born date and born time into bazi calculator tools.


I wonder why people sceptical with this tools when they dont event know yet evout this 
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You can participate in the forum section where free consultations are requested.  You can immediately see the level there.  Welcome.

[The-Monk]

I wonder why people sceptical with this tools when they dont event know yet evout this 

Because most of the time, it's crackpot of theories that actually already utilise something that already works, then tries to rebrand it under a different name and then make a quick buck and presteige off of it.

Alex Chiu's "Super IChing" for example, was nothing more than ripping off existing Chinese material and then putting their own interpretation onto it before anyone realised more about it (it was done before Chinese material was more easily accessible in the West online due to non-conforming standardisation to non-western languages online at that time, where there was multiple of ways to enter Chinese characters into the computer, but none of them when entered into something else showed up as the same thing until this was standardised later on. This made it difficult to locate material easily for a very long time).

Here, we have a mish-mash of existing systems that have been cobbled together and then, once again, branded as something new. The thing is, it "reads" as something different, to a Western audience. Especially one that has not been exposed to such systems before. So it sounds excellent and new.

However, if you have experience with such systems before, you will quickly notice flaws with what the system (Human Design in this case) is and can tell that it is not anything near to what it claims to be or can do.

Care is often advised in such instances, as even in Chinese metaphysics, there are systems that also do something similar by cobbling other systems together and then producing information from it to do a reading. The only issue is, if you are already using existing systems, are you really doing something new? Or just rebadging something else and then selling it on under a different name?

A quick examination of what its purported charts and proposed readings, shows that it has some aspects it gets right, but others not really. And of course, much of these systems also do not really predict anything concrete, instead using a general catch all approach to fool those interested in it that it seems to have got stuff right, which is nothing more than kindergarten level of metaphysics (if that). This is often seen done by charlatans who are covering their lies and impotency through flowery words, etc. to utilise a connection between them and the querent to avoid being brought up on lack of details. This is not unique to Western systems, but any charlatan using Chinese metaphysics as well.

All in all, nothing new.

[Gmuli]

When it comes to Chinese Metaphysics, we have some people I respect a lot, that tried to understand them and failed in the past(in my view, of course) . Arguelles,  Musès and others. Not to mention Jung.

My impression is that there just wasn't enough information for them to understand.
One of the sad parts of it all, who knows how deep they would have been able to view them if they could...

But it is what it is. Currently, my assumption is that all stuff from 30-40 years ago about the Five Arts will be limited in its depth. And I usually avoid. As if they failed, no reason to think many others succeeded.
Includes Wilhelm, sadly.

There are reasons to work the same way for Kabbalah, long story there.
 And I'm very careful with Chakras, as I'm happy how we see them where my background is from, and since that is rarely viewed like that, mentioning Chakras has become a signal for being sceptical by itself.

Overall, no reason to not be sceptical. I love the new age, but I'm happy to admin 90% of it is just generic/surface stuff that won't be able to help even the practitioner providing it. I don't know if this falls into that, but I'm sceptical to almost all with such brave approach as merging, so complex systems, so early on. But thats just me and I become sceptical as soon as someone mentions chakras and doesn't come from India.

[Silverfoxxx]

[quote author =Silverfoxxx link=topic=1626.msg13473#msg13473 date=1702919828]
I am having doubts on it.Because it only uses birthdays and birth years and no birth times.Like we surely have alot of birth twins but we have different very different lives.

Actually, human design tools use time of birth to define characteristic. Just like I entered my born date and born time into bazi calculator tools.


I wonder why people sceptical with this tools when they dont event know yet evout this 
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I used to follow two people who made websites for this hd calculator and they both didn't use birth times and the numbers on my heart and money line are different on both too.
I remember they use tarot card energy for each numbers.I do tarot though for years now so I kinda get the gist of the numbers.
Years ago when I searched this I only get a few info on related on this on free sites  but lately this has been all over tiktok