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Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:47:33 PM »


... Dear Liu yao members
Try to evaluate your knowledge by deciphering on this Case ....
After some time I will give the answer from Wild Crane's Old man book ...
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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 04:17:16 PM »
Very bad for traveling... I would say he won't safely come back. : )
Many reasons, You clashes Mao braking it, there is Calamity Spirit on the father line and many other problems.


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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 05:29:36 PM »
Hi Tientai, there is no Six Animals in the hexagram?

I think the father will come back home safely.  Now it's Chou month. 
When may he come back?  If near, then Yin or Mao day; if far, then Yin or Mao month. 
Father had a fight with or lost his secret lover.  This was such a heartbreak for him, so he finally returned.

Liu Yao analysis:
1) Father is the Parent line, which is the Sixth Line Mao Wood.  This is also the Yong Shen.
2) Mao Wood is a moving line, and it's clashed by You Day Branch. 
3) Moving and being clashed indicates movement, in this case moving back home.  Why "back"? Because the Sixth line is a distant location.
4) The line moves into another line, which is Zi Water (Officer). 
5) The changed line produces the Parent line, so he will come back safely.  I don't regard Zi-Mao as punishment.
6) Zi Water also clashes Wu Fire (Third line).  Wu Fire is Sibling line, which represents a companion (as Dao said).  He will separate with his companion.
7) Yin Wood at the first line is the other Parent line.  This one represents the mother, waiting for father in the inner hexagram (First line), which means their home.

Timing of return (if indeed he returns!):
-  Yin or Mao month is when Mao Wood becomes strong.  So it will be able to withstand the clash from You Day Branch.

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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 07:27:30 PM »
Answer from Ancient text :

卯木父爻,动而生世,又化子水回头生,许之在外平安,世空者速至,交春即归。
Mao wood in father 6th yao, moving and give birth to Shi/self 5th yao, also change to Zi water yao that return to nourish (father 6th yao), perhaps in outside he is quiet and safe, Shi/self 5th yao is empty (Kong) for quick return, he will return on the spring season.
果于二月,得意而回。
Indeed on the second chinese lunar month, he felt complaced and return.
此非卯动酉日冲之乎?何尝散耶?

李我平曰:《黄金策》以空亡为重,冲散为轻。
Iee peacefully said to me: : In 《Golden strategy》is written that using Empty Loose (kong wang) is of much importance, while Clash (Chong) loose as lightly (less important)

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 02:07:30 PM »
Which Yong Shen to choose for trips/travel was discussed with Gmuli. I believe that if it is a business trip it would be Asset/wealth, if it is for leisure will be Offsprings, if it is a risky trip or one that leads nowhere Siblings, if it is a travel for job, not your own business, it would be Official/Ghost. Parents would be everything that serves us to travel and protects us (plane, boat, car, train...).

Father had a fight with or lost his secret lover.  This was such a heartbreak for him, so he finally returned.
How did you come to this deduction?  ???

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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 03:21:41 PM »
Father is a Parent l ine.  The relevant Parent line is Mao, not Yin. 
Observe that Mao Parent combines with Xu (Offspring) + Xuan Wu.  Xuan Wu is called Turtle or Murky Warrior. 
The interpretation comes from a combination of Mao that combines with [Offspring + Xuan Wu] + weak line strength

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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 11:34:53 PM »


... Dear Liu yao members
Try to evaluate your knowledge by deciphering on this Case ....
After some time I will give the answer from Wild Crane's Old man book ...

I understand that who asked the fortune teller was the son asking for the father? is it specified in the original old text?

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Re: Quiz 5 - A father leaving for another place ..
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2019, 11:43:33 PM »
Father is a Parent l ine.  The relevant Parent line is Mao, not Yin. 
Observe that Mao Parent combines with Xu (Offspring) + Xuan Wu.  Xuan Wu is called Turtle or Murky Warrior. 
The interpretation comes from a combination of Mao that combines with [Offspring + Xuan Wu] + weak line strength

But Xu Earth appears in the second hexagram, and is not the result of the first hexagram since there is only one changing line in 6th position (??)

 

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