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Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« on: August 09, 2018, 09:33:31 AM »
例三:人口不安
Case 3: People Unpeaceful [uneasy, restless, worried ]



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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 08:04:19 AM »
Hi Tientai, what is the query for this hexagram?

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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 10:15:45 AM »
Hi Tientai, what is the query for this hexagram?

Yes you have right ..  isn't seen clearly the query .
So does and in ancient text too but I will try to describe somehow the situation..

In a home already existing restlessness among family members ... ( .. is not evident to involve on query  )

The owner ( Parent ) wanting to change residence made this query: " wanting to change this residence what I could find ? "

Thanks for noticing this @JLim
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« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 10:19:26 AM by Tientai »

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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 11:01:38 AM »
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申金子孫持世,化午火{回頭之剋},乃自身與子孫同受剋也。
Offspring Shen metal is on Shi self moving line, and change to Wu fire (return to restrain ), so One's own offspring receiving hurt also [from parents ].

上爻子水財動,又化土剋,財為妻妾、婢僕,乃一家受害之象,速宜遷居。
the top moving line is Zi water Wife /Wealth, also change to earth that [return to ] subdue, Wife /Wealth taken as wives and concubines, maid servants or servants, so all family suffer a form injury, so is suitable quickly to move [from one residence to another ].

彼曰:「另改門戶何如?」
Someone said: 「what will happen with the change of gateway?」

予曰:不能免也,回頭剋我,至夏季火旺,必遭凶厄。
I said: i  cannot avoid it, this turn around will hurt me, mostly on summer when fire is flourishing [Wang ], certainly will meet terrible distress. 

豈知彼之宅近黃河,卜後,日欲遷而不果。
Somehow i know that this residence is near Yang Che river, i was made divination before, for the day wanting to move with no [better ] results.

至午月,河決,一家九口,俱逐浪隨波矣。
By the arrival of Wu fire Ninth Month, will decide for the river residence, entirely pursue drifting by unrestrained waves.

夫應午月者,午火當權,剋世剋子,又衝子水妻財,所以全室罹害也。
This responded to Wu Month, Wu fire then holds power, and can hurt both Shi self and Child [shi self line ], also hurt with clash Zi water Wife/Wealth [1st /6th line ],  therefore whole family is (and will ) suffering from harm.

*** Comment
1. Restlessness inside second residence is not gone better !!!
2. Perhaps the Owner lose much Money buying the new residence... or His wife is suffering mostly!!!
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 11:17:00 AM by Tientai »

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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 12:57:59 PM »
 :( :( :( If the divination was done before they decided to move here, then it would have been much better for their life, and for their money too!

I analyze the house auspiciousness this way.  From the Self line and Yong Shen (useful god), the house is clearly inauspicious.  House assessment with a hexagram is interesting, and it can be done without going to the house location!

Fourth or Self line:
1) Self line Shen is weak by Month and Day, so self line has no Qi
2) Self line Shen is also overcome by second line Si Fire.  In this hexagram, hidden Si line is able to come out
3) Self line is overcome by Wu Fire.  Wu Fire as Parent represents troubles
4) Si Fire is Parent located on the second line, so this God clearly represents their house.  House overcomes Self, Self is weak, and there's a sign of trouble, how can it be auspicious living in this house?

Further analysis on the living environment (First or Others line):
5) Others line is strong by Day, but then it will be clashed by Wu Fire (as the text wrote).
6) Others line is also replicated to the sixth line, and it's overcome by Xu
7) Others line = living environment.  It comes on the first line, and the first line is foundation.  The six gods is Xuan Wu, and the Branch is Zi Water, all are representation of water.  It means the house is near a water body, or the foundation is a water way.
Combining 5-7, water can be a problem for the house. 

So, from the above, there are trouble signs due to water problem when they live in this house.  The problem will peak in Si or Wu Fire months. 

We can also see that this is not a peaceful home:
8) Third line Sibling is very weak by Month and Day, and it comes with Zhu Que (Qi Lin): frequent bickering by the occupants.

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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 10:41:07 AM »
彼曰:「另改門戶何如?」
Someone said: 「what will happen with the change of gateway?」
I think it should be "What about change of door?"  --> proposing Fengshui change. 
予曰:不能免也,回頭剋我,至夏季火旺,必遭凶厄。
I said: i  cannot avoid it, this turn around will hurt me, mostly on summer when fire is flourishing [Wang ], certainly will meet terrible distress. 
May I suggest this translation instead "this reverse overcoming hurts Self (line)"
豈知彼之宅近黃河,卜後,日欲遷而不果。
Somehow i know that this residence is near Yang Che river, i was made divination before, for the day wanting to move with no [better ] results.
... everyday want to move, but to no avail
至午月,河決,一家九口,俱逐浪隨波矣。
By the arrival of Wu fire Ninth Month, will decide for the river residence, entirely pursue drifting by unrestrained waves.
By the arrival of Wu month, the river burst, nine members of the family, all drifting with the waves.

Note: 午 Wu month is not the ninth month. 

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Re: Quiz 30-Due to changing residence, people are unpeaceful...
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 12:16:31 PM »
Dear Master @JLim ..hi ...

Thank you for correcting me on translating into Chinese ...
I try the best still is not enough... !!
some years before was Unreachable dream to make it ...
But now I just get the meaning ...!! .. is not enough indeed I make specific grammar errors..
I think with your valuable help I will fix this problem... and feel grateful from your contribution. 

with respect
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