The meaning of Parents (父�) in a love relationship

[Gmuli]

You can just copy/paste from the calculator... 父母

[Sacrar]

You can just copy/paste from the calculator... 父�

That is what I did!

[Sacrar]

Subject and Object  empty, we don't value this question.
Probably the woman's question is testing, that is not current
circumstance for man and woman.

The Kong Wang aspect in both Subject and Other may mean that she is living an unrealizable fantasy. Maybe she is not clear about whether to initiate the relationship, and of course neither the Other.

In any case, the examples presented are to exemplify the question of the topic of the forum thread, that is, the meaning of Fathers/Parents in affective relationships.

[tanpai]

@Sacrar,„By consultant I mean person who consults to the I Ching (and throws coins), either male or female. In this case she is a consultant, a woman.”
That's true, but I'm not asking if the questioner is male or female.
There's a difference in the analysis if you ask someone else (you tossed the coins)
or the questioner himself dropped the coins, well, that's understandable?

[Sacrar]

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[Gmuli]

You can just copy/paste from the calculator... 父�

That is what I did!

Very strange. There is something messing up the process, though(forgetting the font you copy on), no idea why.

[Gmuli]

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@Sacrar,�By consultant I mean person who consults to the I Ching (and throws coins), either male or female. In this case she is a consultant, a woman.�
That's true, but I'm not asking if the questioner is male or female.
There's a difference in the analysis if you ask someone else (you tossed the coins)
or the questioner himself dropped the coins, well, that's understandable?

the consultant ask questions, throws (toss) the coins and draw hexagram (full process) . I only analyze his hexagrams.

From this perspective, the hexagram should be analyzed exclusively from the point of view of the consultant.
Subject (Shi line)=consultant/questioner

 consultant kən-sŭl′tənt►

    n.
    One who gives expert or professional advice.
    n.
    One who consults another.
    n.
    A physician who is called in by the attending physician to give counsel in a case.

So there are 3 people?One that asks, one that consults her and the person consulting her is giving the info so you can read it?

[Sacrar]

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@Sacrar,�By consultant I mean person who consults to the I Ching (and throws coins), either male or female. In this case she is a consultant, a woman.�
That's true, but I'm not asking if the questioner is male or female.
There's a difference in the analysis if you ask someone else (you tossed the coins)
or the questioner himself dropped the coins, well, that's understandable?

the consultant ask questions, throws (toss) the coins and draw hexagram (full process) . I only analyze his hexagrams.

From this perspective, the hexagram should be analyzed exclusively from the point of view of the consultant.
Subject (Shi line)=consultant/questioner

 consultant kÉ™n-sÅ­l′tÉ™ntâ–º

    n.
    One who gives expert or professional advice.
    n.
    One who consults another.
    n.
    A physician who is called in by the attending physician to give counsel in a case.

So there are 3 people?One that asks, one that consults her and the person consulting her is giving the info so you can read it?

Ahhh, now I understand the confusion, it's all due to a misuse of English. Excuse me. I see it's not appropriate to use consultant, but rather inquirer or questioner (who asks questions and draws hexagram)

[Gmuli]

Then she is making it all, great, then she is on Self. : )

[JLim (Darma W)]

You can just copy/paste from the calculator... 父�

That is what I did!

Very strange. There is something messing up the process, though(forgetting the font you copy on), no idea why.

Gmuli, I also find it strange.  If you try to copy/paste it to the other forum, does it also happen?

[Gmuli]

You can just copy/paste from the calculator... 父�

That is what I did!

Very strange. There is something messing up the process, though(forgetting the font you copy on), no idea why.

Gmuli, I also find it strange.  If you try to copy/paste it to the other forum, does it also happen?

It doesn't if I do it. I can even set it on title(check the subject of the reply).
So I'm assuming its something unusual with Sacrars operational system. Win 10 for exmaple has changes in all ASCII coding of its major fonts... Or maybe he doesn't have Chinese fonts in his OS... Something like that, but it isn't coz of the forum or the site, its something in his OS I think.

[tanpai]

@Sacrar, The first thing I asked was who threw the coins, if you had thrown them instead of the woman, the analysis would have been different.

[Sacrar]

@Sacrar, The first thing I asked was who threw the coins, if you had thrown them instead of the woman, the analysis would have been different.

I thought I answered it before.  The person who asks the Yijing to do the whole process, asks, throws coins and draws hexagrams. And they are all women.

They are women asking for themselves, then the Subject line (Shi Yao) is the person who asks

[Sacrar]

Puppylove used Parents as communication. Then Child as happiness in the relationship.
Seems to work.
If the consultant made the question we need to know on what line is she. Asset line is self, so she may be on self, yet there may be many reasons she would be on others, sibling or other lines... So it becomes complex to read with the present info.

I can recommend Puppylove topics about this, when it comes to relationship we have more examples there and the pattern given seems to work very well.

I'll check this with other inquiries I have to see how it fits. @Gmuli , do you think that parents can also be in some cases the formalization of the couple's relationship? Just like a marriage is the union of Asset+Official, following the wu xing cycle of generation. The puppylove posts are in this or the other forum?

[Sacrar]

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