Six Combination and Transformation

[Rapanui]

It need to consider that there are other interactions along the way between Hour Pillar and Year Pillar:
- Liu Hai : Zi - Wei
- Liu Chong: Zi - Wu
- Ban He: Zi + Shen
I don't think that interaction (Wu-Wei) has a chance.
 

[Milla]

Hi JiYou, that's right, in Mangpai they do not transform.  Elementally, all Six Combinations do not transform.  Wu remains Fire, while Wei remains Earth.  Since Wei is seen as dry Earth, Wei can get further strengthened by Wu as Fire. 

Zi-Chou combination:  Zi remains Water, while Chou remains wet Earth.  They join hands together in the combination, and contribute Qi for each other, but in Mangpai we don't see both as changing or transforming to Earth.  Therefore, Zi doesn't lose its Water nature. 

As for the work process that JiYou mentioned, there are conditions for a combination to become a work process.  But that's a separate topic

Thanks for the example. In this chart, in my opinion, there is an invisible snake. And when there is a year or month Si, the interaction of the year and the hour will intensify, for example, the topics of parents and children will be touched upon at the same time.

[Jiyou]

Thank you for the clarification JLim!

[Flyingkite]

Talking from non-mangpai perspective simply using conventional bazi,

1) Wu Wei don't combine nor transform in this case.
2) Six Combinations don't transform, at least not when analysing DM strength.
3) Six Combinations must be side by side.
4) Tri-combo like San He must be full frame, follow season and penetrate stem element to transform. But in this case Shen Zi half frame don't transform.

[Marlisakurniaty]

Currently I view it based to this:
https://kevinchanbazi.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/bazi-relationship-earthly-branch-combination/

With the idea they don't transform, they just create 1 additional element. So they work together. That is the way its presented in the videos(in youtube), but the Images fit to events, well enough for me.

About the months and is it always fire... I need more info to be able to comment on that. When it transforms to Earth and when to Fire. Logically we can guess Earth months - Earth, Fire months - Fire. But I'm guessing it won't be as simple as that. : )

Thanks, this article helps me a lot.

[nin99]

Hi All,

Let's talk about Wu-Wei combination

H          D         M        Y

Ding    Ren        X         X
Wei      Zi        Shen     Wu

Let's try with this (real) chart.  Male Ren Daymaster.   What do you think about the Wu-Wei combination in this chart? 
1)  Do they transform to Fire?
2)  Do they transform to Earth?
3)  Do they not transform?

Normally wei harm.zi but will not be harmed because zi shen combine first .wu wei is too far