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Title: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 26, 2017, 09:03:45 PM
Ding gui jai gui
Si      hai zi   si
23Dec2013 10:39 am.

Anyone want to read her life chart?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: PdStelle on December 26, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
Hi, New Man,
is it a case study? Otherwise you should have posted in the
FREE LIFE READING SECTION.
Thanks!
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 26, 2017, 10:41:11 PM
Gd day Pdstelle.
Didnt know this thread is for case study. Kindly moved it to the free reading section. Thankyou.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: PdStelle on December 27, 2017, 10:33:08 AM
That patient has a guarded prognosis.
  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 29, 2017, 04:50:40 AM
That patient has a guarded prognosis.
  ;D ;D ;D

She almost die 2 times. Is it reflected in her chart?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 29, 2017, 11:50:52 AM
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Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: JLim on December 29, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
       DM
ding gui  jia  gui
  si   hai   zi   si   female


Hi NewMan,

Based on Mangpai, this is a Gui DM that is connected with Water sources, please note the blue color.  Such Gui DM does not like to meet 絕 Jue Qi phases, because this Qi phase stops the water flow.  And this DM meets this Qi phase at both Hour and Year.  This affects health and longevity unfavorably.

The other thing is that Hai as a Water source is hurt by the clash with Si.  Zi is also another Water source, and it would be more unfavorable for longevity when both Water sources are hurt.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on December 29, 2017, 04:11:44 PM
Ding gui jai gui
Si      hai zi   si
23Dec2013 10:39 am.

Anyone want to read her life chart?

Hi Newman,

Mind sharing where is her location of birth?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Baretta on December 29, 2017, 04:47:05 PM
Was tine of birth convert in solar time?
时日月年
丁癸甲癸
巳亥子巳
Void at 午未子丑

Structur read as direct wealth
Need 乙 to make chart balance
Meet 己 will get soneting not good

But when she die for 2 times?
In may 2014 what happend with her? Are someting happend?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 29, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Hi Rhizome and all.
Her location is hard to fixed. I hv check many source and found it birth hour is accurate . Wonder why she suffered from 2 coma on xin/hai mth this year.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 29, 2017, 05:06:00 PM
Hi JLim
I see her chart is damage from birth. How does xin/hai mth this year has such great impact on her? What can she expect from zi mth?                 
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 29, 2017, 05:12:46 PM
Hi Dao
I hv send u pm explaning her condition :P Feel free to join in the discusion.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 29, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
Hi Baretta. 2014 i have to check with senior for info. Get back to you when i hv more info.                                                                                                 
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on December 29, 2017, 05:20:26 PM
Hi Rhizome and all.
Her location is hard to fixed. I hv check many source and found it birth hour is accurate . Wonder why she suffered from 2 coma on xin/hai mth this year.

In Gui Si year itself, there were both Ding Si and Gui Hai months while she was still in the womb.  She must have been borne with a certain condition.

Was there a twin by any chance? (just hazarding a guess :) )

The clashes happened while she was still a foetus.  After she was born, in Jia Wu year Wu clashed her Yue Ling.

Bareno is right to observe there are several DE/void impact ie Ding Si & Gui Hai both DE Zi month.  Gui Si's DE is Wu.. perhaps that was why she survived still.

I'm sensing that this chart could have been afflicted by something possibly not explain-able by science parameters. This child could be a sensitive by karma. Poor baby.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: JLim on December 29, 2017, 05:44:10 PM
Hi JLim
I see her chart is damage from birth. How does xin/hai mth this year has such great impact on her? What can she expect from zi mth?               
Her condition started in 2016 Bing Shen year.  Bing = Si, so it was the time for Si to clash Hai Water source.
Xin Hai Month is because the "arrival" of Hai Water source to be hurt.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 29, 2017, 06:03:13 PM
Hi All,
For information, I send XKDG for this date.
Thank you and all the best!

 :)
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: PdStelle on December 29, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Could you explain us a little, Dao?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 29, 2017, 07:07:09 PM
Could you explain us a little, Dao?

Hi Pdstelle, All,
This is date selection Xuan kong da gua...
Long time I havent do, maybe some members will comment better than me...
Upper numbers are Gua Qi, lower numbers are Gua Yun (periods)
You can have a look to this page for hexagrams references:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Feng_Shui/Xuan_Kong_Da_Gua/Relationship_With_Ba_Zi_And_I_Ching
I need time to check...
Best Regards

 :)
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 29, 2017, 08:32:47 PM
Hi All,
Just a try for recapitulation, exercice and learning time...
Jlim or someone please help for XKDG corrections when its need... many thanks for MangPai reading...

Hour Ding Si: Gua Qi 2, Gua Yun 8, hexagram 9
Day Gui Hai: Gua Qi 6, Gua Yun 6, hexagram 23
Month Jia Zi : Gua Qi 1, Gua Yun 1, hexagram 2
Year Gui Si: Gua Qi 4, Gua Yun 6, hexagram 43

Hour Breaker unfavourable - Day Hai and Hour Si
Gua Yun period:
Day and month and year Hetu Water 6-1
difficulties to harmonize all Gua Yun numbers period
Gua Qi :
Hour 2 Wood control in Day 6 Earth favourable
Day 6 Earth produce out 4 Metal unfavourable
difficulties to harmonize Gua Qi numbers

Cure blood links:
Hexagram 9 and hexagram 43 (qian father)
Hexagram 23 and hexagram 2 (kun mother)
Favourable

Out of gua:
Hex 9 xun family 721
Hex 23 qian family 317
Hex 2 kun family 489
Hex 43 kun family 489

Best Regards to All!

 
PS: where is login?  :P
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: PdStelle on December 29, 2017, 08:48:31 PM
You're right,  @Dao , it disappeared! We'll fix it tomorrow . Thanks :)
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 29, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Thank you Pdstelle, Login is good, no need to spread errors everywhere!

 ;)
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: candrayus on December 30, 2017, 12:54:33 AM
Hello All,

    Hm... An Interesting Chart... Try to look from ZWDS perspective... Life Self Palace got self Hua-Ke...its a sign of change...If we trace back life ke which resides in life wealth then it denotes a wealth loss in early age. From this life wealth if we want to find the cause of the wealth loss then again we fly ke and it ends in the life health palace so which means that in early age this chart loss a lot of wealth which caused by health palace.. This is the first sign.

     The second sign we can see from life friends palace.. in He Tu concept (6[friends] and 8[health] are legs and related with health matter). In her Life Friends palace got single life hua with double self-hua which denotes certainty of health issues[Po Jun-Weak body in childhood] and because of lu and quan are not in same group then she got a complicated health matter[which usually related with blood, kidney and liver] and timing of event Should started from 2014.
       
      Thanks again @newman for sharing information about this chart.

Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: PdStelle on December 30, 2017, 04:37:48 AM
Very interesting,  Candrayus,
WELCOME to FiveArts.org!
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 30, 2017, 01:56:06 PM
Hello All,

    Hm... An Interesting Chart... Try to look from ZWDS perspective... Life Self Palace got self Hua-Ke...its a sign of change...If we trace back life ke which resides in life wealth then it denotes a wealth loss in early age. From this life wealth if we want to find the cause of the wealth loss then again we fly ke and it ends in the life health palace so which means that in early age this chart loss a lot of wealth which caused by health palace.. This is the first sign.

     The second sign we can see from life friends palace.. in He Tu concept (6[friends] and 8[health] are legs and related with health matter). In her Life Friends palace got single life hua with double self-hua which denotes certainty of health issues[Po Jun-Weak body in childhood] and because of lu and quan are not in same group then she got a complicated health matter[which usually related with blood, kidney and liver] and timing of event Should started from 2014.
       
      Thanks again @newman for sharing information about this chart.
Good day candrayus
Thks for your interesting sharing.
Can you help me on this, in your view if this were a business birth chart, what can the zwds health palace review on it daily operation? Is there any obstacles ahead of her on it first LP?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 30, 2017, 02:20:16 PM
Good day JLim.
You are saying around 2016 some part of her organs has already started to fall sick. Then something triggered and destroyed her health in December.  Will it get worse in her first LP?
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on December 30, 2017, 02:39:48 PM
 Good day Rhizome
On the day of birth she is the only one born. Unless you are saying wandering spirit hovering around her😂
Have send you pm. Yes you are right. She was affected by karma. Thks for your insight.
What do you see on her future?                                     
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Dao on December 30, 2017, 04:14:39 PM
Hello All,

    Hm... An Interesting Chart... Try to look from ZWDS perspective... Life Self Palace got self Hua-Ke...its a sign of change...If we trace back life ke which resides in life wealth then it denotes a wealth loss in early age. From this life wealth if we want to find the cause of the wealth loss then again we fly ke and it ends in the life health palace so which means that in early age this chart loss a lot of wealth which caused by health palace.. This is the first sign.

     The second sign we can see from life friends palace.. in He Tu concept (6[friends] and 8[health] are legs and related with health matter). In her Life Friends palace got single life hua with double self-hua which denotes certainty of health issues[Po Jun-Weak body in childhood] and because of lu and quan are not in same group then she got a complicated health matter[which usually related with blood, kidney and liver] and timing of event Should started from 2014.
       
      Thanks again @newman for sharing information about this chart.

Good day candrayus
Thks for your interesting sharing.
Can you help me on this, in your view if this were a business birth chart, what can the zwds health palace review on it daily operation? Is there any obstacles ahead of her on it first LP?

Hi All,

NewMan thank you for this case study, and many thanks to Jlim, Pdstelle and to All members!
Candrayus, grateful very interesting Zwds analysis...
Happy to read and learn from you!

I send "The Interchanged Positions" by Y.M. LIM - The Hidden Laws Flying Star Zi Wei Dou Shu.

Best Regards

 :)


Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: JLim on January 01, 2018, 05:57:36 PM
Good day JLim.
You are saying around 2016 some part of her organs has already started to fall sick. Then something triggered and destroyed her health in December.  Will it get worse in her first LP?
Hi NewMan,

       DM
ding gui  jia  gui
  si   hai   zi   si   female


Her first LP Yi Chou will be better for her health.
Title: What happen to this kid on this date?
Post by: NewMan on January 10, 2018, 11:05:29 PM
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Title: Re: The fate of this child.
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Title: Re: The fate of this child.
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Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on January 11, 2018, 04:08:47 AM
It like whenever she is around argument will blow out of proportion.

Maybe this chart is just the catalyst of an issue? People make used of her present to fight over it. Sometime quarrel wont start unless there are people watching ;) Is this the kind of chart that show that?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on January 11, 2018, 04:17:16 AM
Hi NewMan

I think it's not so much her presence lol - rather the fact that both types of 'audiences' cannot agree with one another lol.  If this was a chart of an adult, I would say client & consumer not seeing eye to eye (go figure lol)

And neither do both truly agree with/find her likeable .. one party is only obliging cos of 'family' relations.. whilst the other doesn't really bother (i.e. cousins/peers) maybe cos they're as kiddish as her so kids don't really pretend at this age, ya lol when they prefer to play differently they just go about and do it their way, right? ;)

Agreed with JLim entry into LP Chou should be better, as the water frame overcomes the void/DE caused by Gui Hai to month Zi pillar. But then again Wu Xu has other hurdles to contend with.. assuming this chart 'behaves' like a thriving one.. it would resist much this year.

Wu Xu could still hold but could still be rocky unless... :) This year the good will be good the bad will be quite bad.

Next year still uncertain, may have both ups and downs. 2019 will be better but something may have to give first for all to stabilise.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on January 11, 2018, 04:39:33 AM
It fun to watch how kids grow up in different stages of her life :D. I'll remain as a passive observer. Lets see how this Earth year turn up for her. :P
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on January 11, 2018, 04:40:17 AM
Hi NewMan

Perhaps the father sees the daughter as 'precious bringer of tidings'.. after all she does make him look good with her expressions EG which feeds the Fire and warm the chart. With output on stem I would say this chart isn't pro-thriving type but does have tendency to behave that way at times... ie narcissistic traits (for a kid .. maybe spoilt brat)
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on January 11, 2018, 04:41:06 AM
It fun to watch how kids grow up in different stages of her life :D. I'll remain as a passive observer. Lets see how this Earth year turn up for her. :P

'their' lives ;) don't forget that there are other kids playing with her all the time
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on January 11, 2018, 04:55:29 AM
There are new amusement park opening up all the time. Lets see where they will all end up in this coming new year. ;D You know kids will take freebies and go. They always play "Follow the candy man". ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: Rhizome on January 11, 2018, 05:28:47 AM
There are new amusement park opening up all the time. Lets see where they will all end up in this coming new year. ;D You know kids will take freebies and go. They always play "Follow the candy man". ;D ;D ;D

Yep...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: JLim on January 11, 2018, 01:16:10 PM
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Hi Jlim
Humm from observation father seems to be very protective of this child but not sure about mother side.
How about relationship with peers? Is there anything you can see on her making true friends
Father may be very protective, but from the child's natal chart, father will often be unavailable for her, doing business/work at distant places.

This child can make very good friends because she can talk a lot --> Gui Si Pillar.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: TenVirtues on January 26, 2018, 07:40:23 AM
Hi all, @NewMan
Very interesting case study, from my view of this chart is that it is a 兩神成象 structure. Chart with mostly Fire Water and no Earth. Fullfills the requirements.
Water is stronger then Fire therefore it is not afraid to meet Earth in LP. The thing with her chart is that her 甲 is 通关用神 but is surrounded by water with no Root.
It is a very weak 用神 so it need the right LP to support it. Last two years go through 印运 Resource Luck, which supports Water rather then Fire. Therefore her health was affected because 申酉 support 子亥 clash 巳. Also 甲 Qi is Jue in 申, Tai(胎) in 酉. Yongshen is at it's weakest qi phase and can not support 通关.
癸 born in 子 month water is frozen, need fire 丙 to melt the earth, 丁 can not do the job. 巳 has 丙 but 丙 don't potrude. Since she is born in 巳 year though, that means that the qi phase is still heading towards peak of Fire, as the next year will be 午. So the yearly phases is still in support of fire. So there are saving graces.
This year 乙丑LP 戊戌Year 丑刑戌, 癸 in chou 刑 丁 in 戌. Earth qi increased but this is still a cold earth it can not thaw the ice.
She will have some up and downs this year to her health. She need to becareful her immune system is naturally weak. Maybe comprised to a degree.
She needs to make a past first part of 乙丑 pillar to see complete recovery.
This is not a illness that can be cured easily but it can be cured.
When chart is strong we look at 食/伤 as health star, when it is appear in 4 pillars and it is weak,over-exhausted,attacked,it could cause health problems.
In her case it is over-birthed and unrooted it's like a 甲DM with too much water and no root. 甲 becomes floating wood is actually hurt.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: NewMan on March 14, 2018, 03:23:08 AM
Hi all, @NewMan
Very interesting case study, from my view of this chart is that it is a 兩神成象 structure. Chart with mostly Fire Water and no Earth. Fullfills the requirements.
Water is stronger then Fire therefore it is not afraid to meet Earth in LP. The thing with her chart is that her 甲 is 通关用神 but is surrounded by water with no Root.
It is a very weak 用神 so it need the right LP to support it. Last two years go through 印运 Resource Luck, which supports Water rather then Fire. Therefore her health was affected because 申酉 support 子亥 clash 巳. Also 甲 Qi is Jue in 申, Tai(胎) in 酉. Yongshen is at it's weakest qi phase and can not support 通关.
癸 born in 子 month water is frozen, need fire 丙 to melt the earth, 丁 can not do the job. 巳 has 丙 but 丙 don't potrude. Since she is born in 巳 year though, that means that the qi phase is still heading towards peak of Fire, as the next year will be 午. So the yearly phases is still in support of fire. So there are saving graces.
This year 乙丑LP 戊戌Year 丑刑戌, 癸 in chou 刑 丁 in 戌. Earth qi increased but this is still a cold earth it can not thaw the ice.
She will have some up and downs this year to her health. She need to becareful her immune system is naturally weak. Maybe comprised to a degree.
She needs to make a past first part of 乙丑 pillar to see complete recovery.
This is not a illness that can be cured easily but it can be cured.
When chart is strong we look at 食/伤 as health star, when it is appear in 4 pillars and it is weak,over-exhausted,attacked,it could cause health problems.
In her case it is over-birthed and unrooted it's like a 甲DM with too much water and no root. 甲 becomes floating wood is actually hurt.

I think this chart will have problem getting true friends that speak honestly. He might be drawn to fake friend who just want to make used of him.
Title: Re: The fate of this child.
Post by: ren on September 15, 2019, 12:02:11 AM
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