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Albo - Australia new PM
« on: June 03, 2022, 10:59:51 AM »
Hi all,

Anthony Albanese won the election & became Australia’s PM in 2022. He prided himself as son of a single mum, the beneficiaries of Australia social housing & welfare system and a true rags to riches story. He born 2 Mar 1963; likely to be after 7pm given that he said his mum insisted on seeing the finish of the Queen Elizabeth royal tour in Sydney city before going to the hospital to deliver him.

Year – Gui Mao
Month – Jia Yin
Day – Jia Chen
Hour – Jia Xu(?)

Can anyone tell me how does Anthony Albanese bazi chart works? Is it a special chart that likes wood & water? Or a normal chart that like earth, metal? He got elected as PM in May 2022 Ren Yin during his Wu Shen luck pillar (LP) so I cannot tell  :o :-\

Key events in his life:
  • •   Career timeline:
    o   1984 graduated with economics degree – first in family to finish school
    o   1996 Bing Zi year Xin Hai LP: elected as MP to enter parliament
    o   2007 Ding Hai year Geng Xu LP: Labor won the election & he was the 1st infrastructure minister
    o   2013 Gui Si year Ji You LP: was promoted to Deputy PM but Labor lost election & he is no longer in government
    o   2019 Ji Hai year Ji You LP: Labor lost election but he became opposition leader for next election
    o   2022: led Labor to win election & elected as PM
    •   Family information:
    o   Mother birthday: 8 Jun 1936 & passed away in May 2002 – was a cleaner on disability pension
    o   Maternal grandma birthday: 31 Aug 1898
    o   Maternal grandpa birthday: 22 May 1894 – own printing business
    o   Ex-wife, Carmel Tebbutt birthday: 22 Jan 1964 – was 1st woman to be deputy Premier of NSW and was married to him from 2000 to 2019
    o   Current partner, Jodie Haydon (2020 to present)
    o   Son, Nathan was born in 2000

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Re: Albo - Australia new PM
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2022, 03:41:48 PM »
Year – Gui Mao
Month – Jia Yin
Day – Jia Chen
Hour – Jia Xu(?)

Can anyone tell me how does Anthony Albanese bazi chart works? Is it a special chart that likes wood & water? Or a normal chart that like earth, metal? He got elected as PM in May 2022 Ren Yin during his Wu Shen luck pillar (LP) so I cannot tell  :o :-\
Hi bazi_aficionado,

Most in traditional Bazi would definitely categorize this a strong Wood DM or Jian Lu Ge (建祿格).  Based on traditional Bazi, such a strong DM would not like strengthening elements, namely Water and Wood.  So, it would be baffling to see DM reach the country's top position this year (Ren Yin), which is Water atop Wood!

Based on Mangpai: the chart's main work is Wood and Water gang controlling Earth and Metal.  Metal represents his Power, which comes in the Luck Pillars. Which Earth is controlled in the natal chart?  It's Chen Earth, and not Xu Earth.   

LP Geng Xu, LP Ji You and current LP Wu Shen (started 2021): Metal and/or Earth are controlled.  One gang controlling another gang usually leads to excellent individuals / very high performers.

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Re: Albo - Australia new PM
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2022, 06:02:36 AM »
Hi @Bazi_aficionado  @JLim all,
Well this is definitely a interesting case study, as a practitioner of Traditonal BaZi. i do find 甲戌 Hour to be quite suspicious. I think it most be noted that the time a woman takes to labor varies greatly between person to person.
My middle school teacher went into labor for over 8hrs before having her baby!
If using 甲戌 hour IMO, would make this a very low level 建祿格 and i highly doubt he is someone who is holding this low level chart structure because it also does not match much of his life events IMO.

In order for 建祿格 to be high level both Officer/官 and 财/Wealth most potrude in the heavenly stems at the same time the DM most still be able to maintain strength.
It does not like to see 7k/杀 especially if 印/Seal is present in the chart. 杀 will go to strengthen 印, and 印 will go to strengthen a already over strengthened DM.

In his chart 正印 as 癸 is present in the year pillar.
He was also raised by single mother which means this 印 is highly beneficial to him. It also doesn't make sense to me for him to be without father using this hour, because 寅戌 have special relationship, as well as 辰戌 clash which opens the tomb for 戌. The tomb for Fire/Earth.
If we use 甲戌 Hour, The useful gods for the chart would be Fire/Earth. First someone who goes into politics and uses fire/earth will most likely have more conservative political leanings. 官、杀 Officer also becomes useless because of the presence of 印. It's strength goes to supporting 印 instead of controlling the DM. Which would make more for a more fanatic type of personality and definitely more fanatic type of political leanings.
Which does not seem to match his progressive political stance.

When i look at the next hour though 乙亥HP this chart makes a lot more sense to me... If born in 乙亥 Hour, i would consider this chart a high level 曲直格。Which definitely matches his politics and life events more.
Not only is 亥 the 长生 location for Wood, it is also the 临官 position for Water. Further raising the level of this 曲直格. Not only that it does not clash with any of the 3 Zodiacs forming the Wood Frame combo.
Therefore allowing a true transformation to occur. This is considered 格真 (Real Completed Structure) Very high level.

曲直格 when high level usually become 国家栋梁 (Someone who contributes greatly to the Country). It is also a strong sign of benevolence. He is known as a progressive politician that supports gay rights and all-inclusive politics.
Which is again a sign of benevolence.

曲直格 is a special chart formation only formed by Wood DM's just incase some readers don't know.
If we use 乙亥 hour then Officer and 7k become a lot more useful, again it's energy goes to support 印/Seal but since this chart is a 曲直格 it likes 印 to be supported and strengthened.
Especially during the presence of strong Water periods/years. Less Apparent during Earth Years/periods. In fact main 忌神(dreaded God) would be Earth followed by Fire the 凶神.

In 1998 he was promoted to parliament secretary which is the stepping stone to become a future Minister/PM. In 1999 he fought heavily for a bill that supports gay rights.
In 2022 he was able to defeat Scott Morrison who is anti-LGBTQ, and it was because of the actions he took in 1998-1999 in support of Gay Rights that garnered this wide support for him now in 2022.
1998-1999 were 申酉 years. I highly doubt these years would of been beneficial to him if he was born in 甲戌 HR.
His facial and body appearance also show much more signs of Wood frame then broken wood frame. Notice his long arms and somewhat elongated body. Classic signs of wood frame.

Anyway this is just my Opinion and outlook of his chart.  In no way do my knowledge completely represent all Traditional BaZi outlooks nor do i claim it to be.
Hope this helps!



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Re: Albo - Australia new PM
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2022, 10:07:12 AM »
He born 2 Mar 1963; likely to be after 7pm given that he said his mum insisted on seeing the finish of the Queen Elizabeth royal tour in Sydney city before going to the hospital to deliver him.
Hi Aficionado, interesting info, how did you learn about this?  I am wondering how much later after 7pm the delivery occurred.

Hi TenVirtues, nice to see your analysis using the Yi Hai hour, which gives the Wood structure 曲直格. 
In 1998 he was promoted to parliament secretary which is the stepping stone to become a future Minister/PM. In 1999 he fought heavily for a bill that supports gay rights.
In 2022 he was able to defeat Scott Morrison who is anti-LGBTQ, and it was because of the actions he took in 1998-1999 in support of Gay Rights that garnered this wide support for him now in 2022.
1998-1999 were 申酉 years. I highly doubt these years would of been beneficial to him if he was born in 甲戌 HR.
Correction: 1998 and 1999 were Wu Yin and Ji Mao years (Earth sitting atop Wood). 

Offline TenVirtues

Re: Albo - Australia new PM
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2022, 11:03:06 AM »
Thanks for correction @JLim that was a typo on my end. 1998-1999 was when huge wood frames were formed thanks to 辛亥lp, both 戊己 sitting ontop of wood means the earth is weak as well as its energy goes towards supporting 辛 and not towards attacking 癸.

If we use 甲戌 hr huge wood frame years would of furthered strengthened already over strengthened but, untransformed chart.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2022, 11:06:33 AM by TenVirtues »

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Re: Albo - Australia new PM
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