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If there are duplicate designates the priority rule is:
- If it is an active line: there is no doubt that it is that one.


This is one of the points I think he was too enthusiastic about(one of many, as it happens).
In my humble opinion, while we can view that a moving line suggests something we should know, and that will point out to what we ask about in many cases, the idea it always is exactly what we ask about isn't a good idea.

There are situations a female may ask about a guy, there wouldn't be change going with him, yet there would be another guy in her life that will be going through change she should know about(and I have questions like that).
Of course, in that case the guy she asks about won't move, as there is no change going on there, yet the other Officer line will have, as there is change there.

No way to show that, if we always assume if its moving it has to be exactly the person the question was aimed at.

While I do agree there is some validity in there, the idea its so strong rule that it overrides everything else is a risky approach in my humble opinion.

That's right, they are general rules with exceptions.

In this case example, which Asset would you choose as the designated (focus) one?

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There are some rules for selection of the yong shen.
If there are duplicate designates the priority rule is:

Thanks for the clarification. Could you let me know if the rules in question are available in public (open)?

Yes they are open rules, you can find them in books and in alex chiu's superiching. I have put them in my previous message. Duplicate designates = duplicate Yong Shen

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If there are duplicate designates the priority rule is:
- If it is an active line: there is no doubt that it is that one.
- If none is active line:
o The one that has the best extrinsic energetic assessmen.
o Special relationship it maintains with Self line (Liu He, San He, Chong, etc)
o correspondence/resonance relationship with Self line.
o closer to the Self line (spatial position as in feng shui is very important).

Alex Chiu:
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Just concentrate on the one that is stronger or closer to the Subject line.
- If one is moving and the other is not, simply take the moving line as instructed.
- If there is an active line that damages both designated, it will damage the one closest to this active line more. Therefore, use the one furthest away from the damaging element. The old text however says to use the one closest to Self. Given this contradiction focus on both or re-roll.
- Even if one is less strong by date but is linker to Subject's line and closer to it, that one would be more important.
More info in https://www.superiching.com/doublestar.htm

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I think that Young Shen is the Asset Wei (4th line). It's definitely not the Subject line, and the only Asset line remaining on the 1st hexagram is 4th one. And we don't look at the 2nd hex.
In fact any of the three Assets could be the yong shen, even the one in the derived hexagram (Chou).

There are some rules for selection of the yong shen.
If there are duplicate designates the priority rule is:
- If it is an active line: there is no doubt that it is that one.
- If none is active line:
o The one that has the best extrinsic energetic assessmen.
o Special relationship it maintains with Self line (Liu He, San He, Chong, etc)
o correspondence/resonance relationship with Self line.
o closer to the Self line (spatial position as in feng shui is very important).

Based on these rules even if yong shen, focus spirit, Theme/Topic, Matter Element (or whatever you want to call it) are in the self line can also be the designated one.

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Yes, and the news. I have received full compensation from the bank, they transferred money to my account.
Would you be so kind as to say on what date you received the transfer?

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FREE Divination Request / Re: The result of the GO (Wei-qi) game
« on: May 16, 2021, 04:17:54 PM »
Hey,

I often play the Go (Wei-qi) game, and I decided to make a divination to see whether I'd win or lose. Here are my first hexagram:


Unfortunately I can't decipher this. Could you give me your thoughts, please? Thanks.

Although the Officer can fly out to clash Mao Sibling, this Officer is very weak and the Sibling is getting stronger to dominate/control the Self line. Therefore I would interpret it as Self defeat.

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Is one of those hexagrams that require a higher level of skill. There are three Assets/wealths Chen, Wei, and Chou. One of them must be the Yong shen, but who knows which one?

The added difficulty is that the compensation cannot even be financial, but of some other kind, so there would be two yong shen.

In addition to what Ren and Sleepy have told you, fourth line Wei  Liu He to the Day so it moves secretly. It could be heading towards the Subject line.

the second line of siblings is revitalised by the changing line of parents, and this line of siblings is damaging the Asset. The Sibling is in the resting stage(the loss is not too high).

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Liu Yao Case Studies / Six clashes and San He
« on: May 12, 2021, 12:20:17 AM »
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Liu Yao Case Studies / Re: Love relationship in crisis
« on: May 08, 2021, 11:17:14 PM »
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Liu Yao Case Studies / Re: Love relationship in crisis
« on: May 08, 2021, 11:04:05 PM »
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Liu Yao Case Studies / someone asked: will I like this girl?
« on: May 08, 2021, 09:51:15 PM »
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Liu Yao Case Studies / Re: Love relationship in crisis
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FREE Divination Request / Re: Should I contact her today?
« on: May 08, 2021, 09:04:31 PM »
@Topher I have a feeling that you yourself already get what you need to know. In this forum for divination Liu Yao is usually used and I have a feeling you are using Zhou Yi.

For what to do, and how to do questions, trigrams and Zhou Yi approach may be more useful. For more predictive questions Liu Yao is more useful.

Answering your question 58.6: Stop with unrealistic fantasies and set realistic goals and plans to approach this girl.

If you have a predictive question I can sugges: what are my chances of formalizing a relationship with this girl? write down the date and time of the question and post it.

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FREE Divination Request / Re: Should I contact her today?
« on: May 08, 2021, 04:25:53 PM »
@Topher Hi, I don't know if the questions are already water under the bridge and need new guessing. You have asked many questions. Which one is the most important for you?

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Liu Yao Case Studies / Re: Love relationship in crisis
« on: May 08, 2021, 04:09:12 PM »
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Liu Yao / Selection of suitable date for enquiry (stages of life)
« on: May 06, 2021, 12:24:06 AM »
I have a doubt about asking questions and divinations on those days where either per day or per month we can find lots of lines of the hexagram that are in the Mu (tomb) stage or in the Jue (vanishing) stage.

It happens for example especially in Day/Month of Chen earth (earth/water in grave) and in date Si fire (earth/water in disappearance). As Mu and Jue are generally unfavourable signs, we may encounter the problem that the focus lines are all either in tomb or in disappearance, which may make an objective reading impossible, where confusion reigns rather than clarification.

If we add to this the fact that life stages can be drawn by Day or Month, we can find a lot of lines in tomb and disappearance. For example if we do a casting at Si Day and Chen Month.

I was looking forward to the end of this month of Chen because my last hexagrams appeared with lots of lines in tombs  :D

Do you take this into account? What do you think about it? it would be better to avoid these dates?

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Liu Yao Case Studies / Re: Love relationship in crisis
« on: May 05, 2021, 10:00:13 PM »
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