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Hellow
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Re: Suicide chart
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January 01, 2021, 10:40:55 PM »
Hello Hellow, I tend to think that this suicide case's birth hour is Jia Zi. Any record of birth timing and city?
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Hellow
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January 02, 2021, 01:42:56 AM »
Hi JLim happy new year to you.
I only know she die on that day. Was a small business owner. No further background info. Sorry.
I m curious to know what is in zi hour that match her time of death?
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January 02, 2021, 09:14:29 AM »
Small business owner: between the two, Jia Zi hour matches better than Yi Chou hour, because Zi is Wealth at the Host location (Hour). Host means belonging to herself.
Jia as Officer/Power at the Host, so she becomes her own boss (of her small business).
The bad thing is Day Stem combines with Hour Stem, but Day Branch breaks Hour Branch. We call this Zi-Mao interaction with a different term "breakage" in Mangpai, while in traditional we speak about "punishment".
I'm a little curious how you got to know her birth hour.
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Hellow
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January 02, 2021, 01:40:38 PM »
Tks. Saw this case study in a friend fb. I have try to get more info but he don't have any.
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January 02, 2021, 01:52:43 PM »
If it chou hour all her metal are locked away and punish mao. For zi hour how to explain her death? It seems shen in month was left unharm.
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January 02, 2021, 11:52:30 PM »
Hellow and JLim, best regards. I would like to express my opinions regarding how to assess a Suicide in a Natal Chart Bāzì 八字.
But before entering the matter, I would like to expose some concepts that apply to how Cosmic Justice operates. One thing is the
DESTINY
of a person and another very different event is the
FREE WILL
of that same person (be it woman or man). Suicide is part of
FREE WILL,
and therefore does not belong to
DESTINY
. For example, we are going to call an imaginary individual named X, whose
DESTINY
is to live 65 years and will die from an illness, however, when he turned 40, said character decided to jump from the 20th floor of a building (that event happened, because the person did not know or did not want to handle a certain adverse event and by
FREE WILL
he decided that the best thing was to commit suicide and cut 25 years of his life).
When a person with these characteristics, decides by his own decisions to modify his
NATURAL DESTINY
and with it before the Court of Cosmic Justice configured by 42 Magistrates located in the Causal Plane, he must yes or yes, answer for having committed such suicide and not only That is, PAY with a
SERIOUS KARMA
(and one of the most serious) in the next or subsequent stock (depending on the severity of the karma) pay to with pain and suffering. In other words, if in the Bāzì 八字 Natal Chart of individual X, it was explicitly recorded that he must commit suicide, then it would not entail paying a Karma or Punishment, for something that he would have written down beforehand. If that happened then Cosmic Justice would be the most unjust in the Universe, which is not true, there is nothing more just than the Justice that the Divinities apply, to us mere mortals.
In this sense, trying to find and determine the
SUICIDE
in a Natal Chart Bāzì 八字 of individual X, is out of all logic and common sense, does not have any valid argument, nor any coherence. In other words, a suicide will
NEVER
be explicitly recorded in a Natal Chart. Trends may appear (I am going to explain them), it is true, but that does not determines that he will have to commit suicide. A tendency or predisposition is like a personal test, but it is not an obligation.
In a Natal Chart the details of said
DESTINY
are recorded from the very birth, if individual X will be rich or poor, if he will become famous or not, if he will marry (and how many times), if he will have to work hard or not , whether or not he will have children, whether he will be able to go to a university or not, and things like that. The Judges of Cosmic Justice (before taking a new physical body) place the person in the Hamikistan (which is like the waiting room of an Airport and in the Astral Plane he must wait for the order to land on the Physical Plane), In order to classify you first: where you are going to be born (country and city), who will be your parents and relatives and, above all, they impose your new Natal Chart (hour, day, month and year of birth) on you. Nothing happens by chance, but by Causality. That is the reason why said Court operates from the Dimension of Causes.
On the subject of
FREE WILL
, other parameters are determined, the person may want to decide to become a drug addict, or not, to become an alcoholic or not, and so on. Here it includes the decision to commit suicide or not. In other words, we autonomously decide if we want to improve spiritually or deteriorate. If we want our next existence to be more generous or more complicated.
In previous publications he had analyzed in the Bāzì 八字 Birth Letters: the death of Adolf Hitler and the accidental death of Princess Diana of Wales, but these cases are due to the
DESTINY
of these two characters. Here they play the Death Star and other shocks, damages and the accumulation of Energies that break the Silver Cord of the person, for obvious reasons on a predetermined date. However, a Suicide in the strict sense of the word, occurs due to a strategic error in the decision of the owner of that Natal Chart, but not because of the configuration of the Natal Chart Bāzì 八字 as such.
Let's see, the Trends or Predispositions. Suppose we have a Bāzì 八字 Birth Chart in Flames, this means that it has an accumulation of Yang Fire Bǐng 丙 or Yin Fire Dīng 丁 in excess. In such cases, that person will be predisposed (due to erratic learning processes from previous lives) to suffer from Major Depression Psychological Dysfunctions Xīnshén 心神. By simple rules of Traditional Chinese Medicine, an individual who has a lot of Yang Fire Bing 丙 in the Natal Theme will be affected by the Xiǎocháng 小腸 Small Intestine Meridian and Triple Function Sānchóng Gōngnéng 三重 功能, Yang Fire 丙 Sovereign and Ministerial, respectively. Otherwise, if the Yin Dīng 丁 Fire is too excessive, it will damage the Heart Meridian Xīn 心 and the Heart Master Xīnbāo 心包, that is, the Sovereign and Ministerial Yin Fire Dīng 丁, respectively. In both configurations, that person will be predisposed to suffer from Major Depression or suffer from Bipolar Disorders, and in this sense, they will often cry easily, become sad and in this sense will have a greater tendency to seek Suicide. However, if you put Willpower to your psychological situation (and it is a test that you can pass), you will
NOT
commit suicide.
In the Hand Reading Zhang Xiāng 掌 相, it can be observed in people with a Tendency or Predisposition to Suicide (by Free Will), that a Star 星 Xīng appears demarcated at the end of the Profession Line 专业 线 Zhuānyè Xiàn and in the area of the Earth Star 地球 之 星 Dìqiú Zhī Xīng. But by Destiny, the person can change such an event. In the case of the woman indicated by Hellow, surely she could have had such a Star in the Left Hand (and in such case, it means that that lady could have committed suicide in her previous life due to her being the Palm of the Hand of the Early Sky Xiāntiān Bāguà 先天 八卦, or the Primordial Arrangement in that sense comes from a Bad Recurrence), if it appeared in the Right Hand (Late Heaven Hand Hòutiān Bāguà 後天 八卦 or Manifested Arrangement) then it is a Tendency to Suicide in this Existence.
By the way, in the Reading of Men's Hands, the Sequence of the Bā Guà Eight Symbols 八卦 is reversed.
If in that same area referred to, a Cross 交叉 Jiāochā appears, then it is Death by Accident (this if it comes from Destiny). It is much more decisive when the hands are soft and thin and the Line 人 脉 Rénmài or Human Being has a rupture.
For one to determine Death by Destiny, in the Palms of the Hands it is relatively easy to determine the Age of Death, because an average is used of the Length of the Earth Lines 陆 线 Lù Xiàn, Sky Line 天空 线 Tiānkōng Xiàn and Profession Line 专业线 Zhuānyè Xiàn. In some cases, the Earth Line 陆 线 Lù Xiàn appears cut on both hands and in other cases, the Line 人 脉 Rénmài Ser Humano may appear, cut and forming a hook on both palms of the hands.
In the Miàn Xiàng 面相 Face Reading, data in this regard can also be compared (Tendency to Suicide) when tangled and sparse eyebrows appear, according to the Theory of the Five Officials 五名 军官 Wǔ Míng Jūnguān corresponds to the Security Officer 保安人员 Bo'ān Rényuán and therefore is in connection with the Heart Meridian Xīn 心 and consequently with emotional problems. However, other signs should be analyzed, for example, the upper right and left area of the eyebrows, on the superciliary arches, known as the Palace of Emotions or the Granary of Heaven (it is next to the Takiya Palace) and according to Master Liu Zhang's: in the Method of the Heart belongs to the Huo 火 Fire Phase. The right superciliary arch is connected with the Prefecture of Offspring 后代 州 Hòudài Zhōu and the Trigram Wind Xùn 巽 ☴
and the other Arch, the left one, is linked to the Intelligence Prefecture 情报 州 Qíngbào Zhōu or Trigram Earth K´un 坤 ☷.
It should also be observed if any stain, scar, or mole appears a little above Floating Point 15 of the Face, in the axial line near the hairline. In that area is the Earthly Branch of the Horse (Wu 午) that is in connection with the Heart Meridian Xīn 心 (Fire Huǒ 火) and with the Ave Red Phoenix Zhūquè del Fēngshuǐ 风水.
It is convenient to observe if on the Chin (Great Permanent North Mountain 恒山 Hénshān), also called the Earth Pavilion (Floating Point 71 and which belongs to the Pictorial Song of the 13 Facial Points, which were used during the Tang Dynasty within of the Diagnosis of Traditional Chinese Medicine) spots, scars, moles or discolorations appear in that area and if the chin is narrow. This part of the Face belongs to the 家庭 州 Jiātíng Zhōu Family Prefecture, the Water Trigram Khan 坎 ☵ and the Black Tortoise 玄武 Xuánwu.
Other nuances must be analyzed, and in this case when the Mouth (River Jiāo Hé 胶 河) is in the shape of a Boat with an inverted keel and if the eyes (Yellow River Huánghé 黃河) are dark. In all the cases mentioned, it can be diagnosed if the person suffers from Major Depression or if he is Manic Depressive, because this increases the possibility of Suicide. It is necessary to observe that the Stars on the Face are located correctly.
On the Face and on the Hands, the Natal Chart Bāzì 八字 also appears, but only that they are registered with energetic signs and archetypes in function of a
Geosomatic Compass
, because they operate under the same rules of Fēngshuǐ 风水.
Finally, and despite all these references, Suicide continues to be a Mechanism derived from Free Will and therefore, it is not a Parameter that cannot be modified, in that sense, nor is it recorded in a sharp way in the Natal Chart Bāzì 八字, neither in the Hands Zhang Xiāng 掌 相, nor in the Face Miàn Xiàng 面相. In any of the above cases they are only
Tendencies
that do not depend on the
Equation of Destiny
Kàn Mìng Koujué 看 命 口诀.
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January 03, 2021, 01:05:32 PM »
She has a choice. Seek help or end it her way. Usually such chart have personal mental block and can't think out of the box. Really need external help to pull her out of danger.
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January 03, 2021, 03:30:31 PM »
It is correct Hellow:
I remember a case of a married woman with serious marital problems (this happened several years ago) and she had intentions to commit suicide. He is a person with a Yang Wood Master Element, which are very dependent by nature. Fortunately, I was able to intervene by giving him advice, especially about future responsibilities (karmas for committing suicide).
It was also necessary to correct her eating habits based on her Natal Chart. Generally speaking,
Earth Foods
are sweet and act on the Spleen, Pancreas and the Stomach Meridian.
Fire Foods
are bitter and influence the Heart and Small Intestine.
Wood Foods
are sour and act on the liver and gallbladder.
Metal Foods
are spicy and influence the Lung and Large Intestine.
Water Foods
are salty and act on the Kidney and Bladder. Naturally, they can be classified into Yang Fire, Yin Fire, Yang Metal, Yin Metal, and so on.
In this case, the Natal Chart of that person should be studied, and depending on the diagnosis, suppress some foods and increase or include the foods that are necessary, according to their flavor and the element to which they belong. It is also convenient to apply the rules of Nutritional Trophology. It is something like using a Fengshui in Food in order to correct psychological disorders.
Likewise, you can resort to Acupuncture, Homeopathy, Aromatic Herbal Therapies, Tui Na Massages, but the Advice you can give to this type of patients with suicidal tendencies are Fundamental.
It is not a good idea to use Psychotropic Drugs, that is, chemical medications that mask and even complicate these types of patients due to their adverse effects. They are synthetic chemistry "straitjackets" very inappropriate for use on suicidal patients.
In the case of the lady I am telling you about, fortunately she did not commit suicide and today she is thinking of separating from her husband. You are waiting for favorable seasons and dates to come to she at the BaZi. The important thing is that he took the most suitable Free Will.
When using the Five Arts for these types of Suicidal Tendencies,
Strategic Mentoring
is very important.
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