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This case is from a contemporary mainland Chinese master.  He asked about his own tonsil surgery.  It hurt so much after the surgery, that he divined for his own illness.

Month Si, Day Ding Chou.  Void: Shen and You. 

You Metal Child       ▅▅ ▅▅ S       
Hai Water Asset      ▅▅ ▅▅
Chou Earth Sibling  ▅▅ ▅▅
Mao Wood Officer   ▅▅ ▅▅ O
Si Fire Parent         ▅▅ ▅▅ ╳    Chen Earth Sibling ▅▅▅▅▅
Wei Earth Sibling    ▅▅ ▅▅

Yong Shen is You Metal as Child, and it comes right on Self line.  It is overcome by Month Si and void.  Luckily, Chou Earth can produce the Self line. This illness should not get any worse. 

Result: indeed so, and his illness was cured on Jia Shen Day, which is 7 days after.

Note: this case is one example where a void line can receive support from the Month or Day (in this case Day Chou).
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Re: Tonsil surgery - Chinese Liu Yao master asked about himself
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 07:47:34 PM »
As @JLim presenting :
This case is from a contemporary mainland Chinese master.  He asked about his own tonsil surgery.  It hurt so much after the surgery, that he divined for his own illness.



And explained :
Yong Shen is You Metal as Child, and it comes right on Self line.  It is overcome by Month Si and void.  Luckily, Chou Earth can produce the Self line. This illness should not get any worse.

Result: indeed so, and his illness was cured on Jia Shen Day, which is 7 days after.

Note: this case is one example where a void line can receive support from the Month or Day (in this case Day Chou).


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Re: Tonsil surgery - Chinese Liu Yao master asked about himself
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 08:17:15 PM »
The cure comes when Kongwan was ended .. 7 days ...
Kun Hexagram has all lines clashed (1-3/2-4/3-6)...
Day branch Chou clash with Wei 1st brother  line and secretly move also comes with vermilion Bird ..== his imunity is affected and called for Medical help ...
Produced 2nd Chen line is combined with Self 6th You metal line now in kongwan  == he will be saved after Kongwan  ...

Other info
Month Si fire is on moth break with Hai Water wealth and swaps image with 2nd Si parent moving line ==  issues with unhealthy living or eating and estimating (don't give much attention on lung health care ..!!)
Question : is a smoker ?

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Re: Tonsil surgery - Chinese Liu Yao master asked about himself
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 08:33:04 PM »
Month Si fire is on month break with Hai Water wealth and swaps image with 2nd Si parent moving line ==  issues with unhealthy living or eating and estimating (don't give much attention on lung health care ..!!)
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Yes, good remark about the Month Break.  Unfortunately after tonsil surgery, normal eating is very difficult.

If you're interested in reading further, his name is 李洪成.

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I don't know.
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Re: Tonsil surgery - Chinese Liu Yao master asked about himself
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2025, 07:08:31 AM »
The cure comes when Kongwan was ended .. 7 days ...
Kun Hexagram has all lines clashed (1-3/2-4/3-6)...
Day branch Chou clash with Wei 1st brother  line and secretly move also comes with vermilion Bird ..== his imunity is affected and called for Medical help ...
Produced 2nd Chen line is combined with Self 6th You metal line now in kongwan  == he will be saved after Kongwan  ...

Other info
Month Si fire is on moth break with Hai Water wealth and swaps image with 2nd Si parent moving line ==  issues with unhealthy living or eating and estimating (don't give much attention on lung health care ..!!)
Question : is a smoker ?

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Do you consider the transformed line as factoring in combinations (合)  and do you have a classical quote for that.
I also wonder why you don't look at the day 12 phases, according to those soil/earth lines do not get a day phase associated.

best wishes Johan

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Re: Tonsil surgery - Chinese Liu Yao master asked about himself
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2025, 02:06:36 PM »
Hi Johan, it's sad to inform you that Tientai passed away during the covid outbreak. 

That's why there is a cross next to his name
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