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Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2023, 10:40:45 PM »
Hello @Gmuli
Thank you for explaining my chart in a way I can use in work.
Sometimes i got overboard with my curiosity. Usually, it related to 'why' and 'what' the reason for their action/ or why they explain it this way, also i have work in sales and in negotiation i try to make approach with understand their condition like "whats your concern/ difficulty".

To summarize "my work depends on seal" :
Day = Interaction of thought and knowledge with myself
Hour = My observation interaction of outside world in everyday life
Month and Year = Guest (family, friends, local people high position in the community)
Thus, with thinking ability and people around me, thats what will get me a result.
Does clash interaction can indicate obstacle for me to learn it too?

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As Chou containing people can mean a house, or can mean a country. The higher the level of 'abstraction' used the more interesting and respected path is, usually(house - more material then 'country that is somewhat not as material or clear). Can still work very material work, but there is chance for more if focusing on understanding what you see.

Does this respected path exist in my chart? Im still learning, so Im not sure if it is possible. But I get your idea for me to develop a skill :) Interesting how different way of reading chart can interpret different way in life

I know that book, it references to me since I learn a manifesting program,
But I havent dive in. I will try to read it, thank you so much!

Gmuli

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Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2023, 10:58:19 AM »
Quote from: Furbi
To summarize "my work depends on seal" :
Day = Interaction of thought and knowledge with myself
Hour = My observation interaction of outside world in everyday life
Month and Year = Guest (family, friends, local people high position in the community)


I think so, yes.
Its because of Wei clashing Chou and Wu in harm with it. We can look at it as 'cold grouping(Chou because of water hidden stem) being 'obtained' or kinda reacted with from the hotter grouping(Wei and Wu)).

So its like there is something connected to knowledge in Chou, that is something that you can use your own knowledge/curiousity to 'clash' in Wei. So you kinda charge for it, so it stops moving and it becomes Asset instead(as you make interactions with it with Wei).

At the same time Wu fixes it too, as it has Harm, so again turning it to Asset('not moving' can be considered Asset, at least when its different grouping) I think, in some cases.

In that sense the view is they work together to 'obtain' Chou and what is within it.

And that is understanding about people. Its about people because Chou contains metal and metal is Sibling, so becomes Images of Parent(knowledge) enveloping Sibling(people), and in the Hour can be knowledge about people. : )


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Thus, with thinking ability and people around me, thats what will get me a result.

Yes, thinking from the Earth branch and more about knowledge when in front and around people from the position(hour).
So carry meaning of looking at people, that is why the book, coz exercises there give chance to just look at how people communicate their inner processes. And hopefuly to get/understand them(the processes) in a way that could help them, eventually, if that is the idea.

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Does clash interaction can indicate obstacle for me to learn it too?

I think in this case its a very nice thing. As it means you aim for that, there is 'charge' behind that aim for understanding.
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Does this respected path exist in my chart?

Absolutly, but you decide what level you use that on.

So if we have hot grouping of Wei and Wu 'obtaining' Chou as described above, that could be you figuring out processes people use and with time develop ways to help them do it better.
That is because Wei is your Resource, so your knowledge related to Chou in the Hour, so what you see when in front of people. That could be great chart for someone working with communication I think.

However, Chou as Resource can also be House or Car or Cloths. So one can have their vision what a good Car(Wei) and compare it to Cars they see(in the hour) and with that improve it.

So many possibilities, I view first one as 'higher' one, as the second one is very limited in learning compared to processes in people. But both should be an option. As its just what level the Images play at, it can be different ones. : )

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Interesting how different way of reading chart can interpret different way in life

Sure. I think all is valid, at least possibly valid, just different direction it looks at it from. : )

And feel free to ask if you have questions, I get that some of the stuff is not explained well enough to probably fully understand just from the post, some rules(host/guest etc) can be found around the forums, although not sure its still there. But can always ask, usually we are happy to help.


Offline ren

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2023, 08:21:03 PM »
Hi Furbi,

May I ask, where did you get the line: “host location all seal, your work depends on seal”?
Was this part of a Bazi reading you received before?

Has your chart been time corrected? Are you sure about the hour pillar?

What did you study in college? What would you consider your current profession?

Thank you,

ren
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Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2023, 01:50:46 AM »
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So if we have hot grouping of Wei and Wu 'obtaining' Chou as described above, that could be you figuring out processes people use and with time develop ways to help them do it better.
That is because Wei is your Resource, so your knowledge related to Chou in the Hour, so what you see when in front of people. That could be great chart for someone working with communication I think.

However, Chou as Resource can also be House or Car or Cloths. So one can have their vision what a good Car(Wei) and compare it to Cars they see(in the hour) and with that improve it.

So many possibilities, I view first one as 'higher' one, as the second one is very limited in learning compared to processes in people. But both should be an option. As its just what level the Images play at, it can be different ones. : )

Thank you so much @Gmuli
With your explanation and my confirmation of your explanation in daily life, at least i can start a new focus compare focus on the bad side of LP. Even though i still need to face it.
I hope I got those chances to develop that communication skill : D
« Last Edit: October 26, 2023, 01:57:26 AM by Furbi »

Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2023, 01:56:46 AM »
Hi @Spiritsfan, Im not familiar with Taoist Bazi
But somehow it give same result with Master told me at 2031 will make me much better, but start from 2028 my luck is a bit better. Thank you for your information.

@coldpillow Thank you for your confirmation, I guess my chart really need water compare to wood.

Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2023, 02:07:41 AM »
Hello @ren
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Was this part of a Bazi reading you received before?
Yes, but I didnt really understand what he meant, so Im asking from others perspective.

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Has your chart been time corrected? Are you sure about the hour pillar?
No, my chart has not corrected or check. I have the record from hospital data.
Could you please explain why it seems hour pillar not correct?

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What did you study in college? What would you consider your current profession?
I studied Food Technology. And my work position is so divided, since it small company, but mostly in Marketing. Before working with my parents i work as technical sales.

Offline ren

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2023, 03:00:34 AM »
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Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2023, 11:30:09 AM »
Greetings, @ren
I apologize, but I don't think it's appropriate for me to post his reading online without his consent. Since everyone reads and lends a hand in a different way,

I started this post because I dont really understand the meaning of 'seal' in Bazi World,
They said having a lot of Seal is good (?) but i dont find a lot of article about it even in the forum,
It just my curiosity, and since its in my chart i really want to understand it well (How to use it, How it works, how does it effect life)..

I have already requested permission to upload his reading, and I will post something depending on his response.

Thank you for your questions, and I hope you understand.

Offline ren

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2023, 06:16:13 PM »
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Offline ren

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2023, 06:31:10 PM »
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Offline Furbi

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2023, 07:24:50 PM »
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Offline ren

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2023, 08:49:33 PM »
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Offline tyc

Re: Seal meaning
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2023, 04:44:22 AM »
Fyi, treybazi.com perfer to use seal in his translations/ discussions.

 

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