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Library => Bazi => Topic started by: JohnChoong on January 28, 2023, 07:12:34 PM
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Female, aged 50
Year Month Day Hour LP 1991 2001 2011 2021 2031
Ren Ren Wu Geng Geng Ji Wu Ding Bing
Zi Zi Xu Shen Xu You Shen Wei Wu
Femal DM wants to know the quality of her relationship and career prospect?
MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE
- Female DM enters into first marriage during the Period of Ji You.
- She was reluctant but was pressured to get married to her first husband by her mother.
- Marriage life to the first husband was not harmonious. The husband had had several affairs with other women (even married ones).
- She tolerated her husband's behaviors until the husband brought the mistress home and kicked her out of the house.
- This became the last straw when she separated for her husband and initiate divorce proceedings.
- During the divorce proceeding, she met another man. Both were together for 10 years, waiting for the divorce proceedings to resolve before getting married in 2015, Yi Wei Year under Wu Shen LP.
Analysis:
Metal and Water form a gang with the intention of controlling Water and Wood.
Female has no Guan Sha to be used as spouse stars. Therefore, we use Cai. as Spouse Star.
Fu Yin involves Ren Zi which represents the spouse indicating double marriage.
The period where there were problems in the marriage was during the Ji You. In traditional BaZi, You and Zi are considered to form negative interaction but under MangPai system, You and Zi have no Po (breakage) relationship. If this is the case, what causes divorce and unhappy marriages?
The second marriage happens during Yi Wei AP because Yi being Zheng Guan allows Cai to do work and Yi is sitting on Wei which forms a mutual punishment with Xu. There is an interaction between the AP and the Day Pillar representing the self. The opening of the tomb releases Ding Fire within Xu so this enables Zi Water to do work. This enables the Cai (Zi Rat), representing the spouse to control Xu's Ding Fire which is the DM's Yin and this can be seen as being associated with the self. This can show that the second man is the one who insists on the marriage and causes it to happen. WOuld it be correct for me to stay this?
Question:
1. Shen and Zi form Ban He. This shows the connection triggering the work process of Shi Shang producing Cai.
2. Can we take two Zi Rat as indicating her having two marriages during two decades of her life?
3, The woman has 4 Yang Pillars. Can we look at the pillar to determine whether this woman is the type who is resilient and has more masculine qualities (e.g. assertiveness, controlling)?
4. Current year Gui Mao that arrives within the Ding Wei period. Mao is Guan Sha and Gui is Cai. Mao is Guest because there are no character from the Host that are the same at the Year Pillar. Would there be possibility that this female DM may get involve in another relationship or that she can attract men's attention due to Zi and Mao breakage.
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I wish the DOB+Time is written :'( so I can plot my own calculator.
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I wish the DOB+Time is written :'( so I can plot my own calculator.
Here you go.
Date of Birth: 02/01/1973
Time: 16.25
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
BTW, do you make any time adjustment when making your assessment?
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Female, aged 50 - chart A
Year Month Day Hour LP 1991 2001 2011 2021 2031
Ren Ren Wu Geng Geng Ji Wu Ding Bing
Zi Zi Xu Shen Xu You Shen Wei Wu
Female, aged 50 - chart B
Year Month Day Hour LP 1991 2001 2011 2021 2031
Ren Ren Wu Ji Geng Ji Wu Ding Bing
Zi Zi Xu Wei Xu You Shen Wei Wu
Hi John, it appears that chart B is the correct one, not chart A that you plotted.
- In chart A, the Spouse Palace Xu is enclosed by the Zi-Shen combination, so the palace is safe and protected
- In chart B, there is a punishment between Spouse Palace Xu and Wei
Was the marriage turmoil heaviest between 2006-2011?
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Was the marriage turmoil heaviest between 2006-2011?
Yes. She felt a lot of emotional disturbances during that particular period of time.
However, what makes me curious is that the second man she met seems to be good to her. The second man appears to be someone who is loyal (not the type who philander) and is more shy in social interaction. It was the women who initiate the relationship.
I wonder how we look at the quality of the second marriage if we are to make reference to chart B.
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My school of thoughts do not read time adjustments. I don't use Bazi.
Strong character with determination. Straightforward and unfriendly. High opinion and did not give up easily. Can have high self-esteem and introverted, selfish or always comes to dead end thinking. Feels like life is always not smooth.
Unfortunately, her spouse palace has too many interferences and yes, there is signs of married again.
Just following to read how others interpret with Bazi tools.
Good luck.
She can be opinionated but is a very helpful person. Introverted she is not. She can be highly assertive. From the traditional BaZi perspective, she has Fui Kong/Kui Kang (Commanding Pillar) but under the Mangpai system we do not look at such pillar types so I am curious to read what makes up her character through the lens of identifying "work process",
The question I like to know how is the current quality of marriage now. Would there be any issues? And also if a person's chart shows the individual has multiple marriages, is there any specific formula or criteria to show whether a person will have a good marriage in the subsequent matrimonial relationships?
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this.
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Was the marriage turmoil heaviest between 2006-2011?
Yes. She felt a lot of emotional disturbances during that particular period of time.
LP Ji You is from 2001-2011. Sub-LP Ji is from 2006-2011. Ji swaps images with Wei, so it's time for the Wei-Xu punishment.
Female, aged 50 - chart A
Year Month Day Hour LP 1991 2001 2011 2021 2031
Ren Ren Wu Geng Geng Ji Wu Ding Bing
Zi Zi Xu Shen Xu You Shen Wei Wu
Female, aged 50 - chart B
Year Month Day Hour LP 1991 2001 2011 2021 2031
Ren Ren Wu Ji Geng Ji Wu Ding Bing
Zi Zi Xu Wei Xu You Shen Wei Wu
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Just in case people are wondering why I proposed an alternative birth hour (chart B), here is my reasoning...
Date of Birth: 02/01/1973
Time: 16.25
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
BTW, do you make any time adjustment when making your assessment?
Yes, for me time adjustment is the way to go, whether analyzed is with Mangpai or traditional Bazi. Let's plot the above birth data
https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&y=1973&m=1&d=2&h=16%3A25&g=8&l=101.6869&lon=3.139&s=1&city1=101.6869%7CKuala+Lumpur%2C+Federal+Territory+of+Kuala+Lumpur%2C+Malaysia
If you open the link, then the adjusted solar time is 15:08. By right, this is a Shen hour. However, this time is only 8 minutes into the Shen hour, so we must verify the life facts with the previous Wei hour. Based on her bad marriage, the Shen hour is not likely. I think the Wei hour is the correct hour pillar.