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General discussions => FREE Life Reading Request => Topic started by: rontron5k on August 31, 2023, 10:55:43 AM
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February 2, 1987 16:59, Male.
Lately, I have have been dating a girl twice in the first half of August 2023 but seems like lately she is avoiding me when I directly ask her when she is free, we still talk through text message but I don’t really know what her intentions are.
Also work as been an extra pain this month.
Want to know what the masters see in my chart for the rest of this year in romance and career. Chart is attached too for convenience! Much thanks my morale is very low lately.
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Place /city of birth, pls! :)
Need it for solar time adjustment to check if chart is correct.
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Place /city of birth, pls! :)
Need it for solar time adjustment to check if chart is correct.
Hong Kong, China
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From love perspective, I don't see any particular increase or decrease in love luck in August, nor for the rest of 2023.
You need fire for love, and the rest of the months are a mixture of metal, water, wood and earth only.
Work pain I would reason it is the effect of Geng Shen in month of August.
Shen clashes with the Mao in EB of annual pillar.
Mao is your output element - its suppression leads to you feeling frustrated and constrained.
This will continue to Sept (You clash with Mao), and Oct (Xu combine with Mao).
It should go away after the starting of Nov.
Regarding love:
You have an inherent Bing-Xin combination in your natal chart, and in this luck pillar there is a Si-Shen combination.
Fire is your love luck and metal is your resource luck.
On how to interpret your resource element decreasing your love luck - I do not have deep enough understanding of the Ten Gods to explain yet.
Because if we can understand that, we will be able to identify what is the characteristic flaw and change it.
But for now, I am still learning.
If you have any guess, maybe you can share and we can see if it makes sense to the chart.
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@Gmuli
I think in this case Resource may be his mother or knowledge(usually both, depending if his mother is around).
So like staying in comfort zone, coz what he knows makes him want to play it safe.
While at the same time his mother may not have been too enthusiastic for more risky, expanding inner ideas(Wu fire), so that left a trace.
You are right!
I totally forgot to consider mother and knowledge... :o
I need to practice more... :'(
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Its difficult for us, forumers, because without inflection there is no way to be sure if its sarcasm or not.
But if it isn't - it seems its always knowledge, whatever happens. One of the good sites is that as it expands it cause less problems and helps instead. : )
So if someones knowledge is hurting them, then changing the direction to more healthier type of knowledge will eventually helps, in my humble view.
One of the ways to see there is a way to balance everything, just more simple to see it there.
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Oh no no, not trying to be sarcastic. Apologies that it came out like that.
Interestingly, from my own personal experience with readings, support/resource problems tend to be mother-related more often than knowledge.
Waiting for some feedback from @rontron5k :)
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Oh no no, not trying to be sarcastic. Apologies that it came out like that.
Interestingly, from my own personal experience with readings, support/resource problems tend to be mother-related more often than knowledge.
Waiting for some feedback from @rontron5k :)
My bad, is all good, I misunderstood, I guess. : )
About knowledge... Resource is always knowledge, one way or another, as far as I'm aware. And Earth Branches(Tombs etc.) are always thinking.
Problem is, people are not very aware of their inner processes, so if you ask them they, in most cases, can't tell you that. If you observer them you can see it, however. But to do that, have to know where to look from and that need entirely different sets of systems(neurolinguistics, behavior then language related, general semantics etc. so to know how to look etc).
Also that is why I avoid doing readings online last few years, as if the person know their inner working that well, they won't be needing to ask here. So the most important part of the feedback can be seen, but not received as reply in forum.
And I get that most people focusing on Five Arts does not see that as part of it. But if one does they can see 4 pillars are always perfectly mapping out their inner processes. And then their life is reflection of their inner processes and then it gets distorted, as not everything will be there to play 'its role'.
But that is just my humble view, who knows...
In any case, you are doing good work, can be difficult doing many readings in a forum, sometimes...
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Yea, I agree.
While I use a different Bazi system, I became hyper-aware of my inner processes after learning Bazi.
And after some initial readings for friends and colleagues, I realise that getting the calculations right is just half or even less of the whole deal.
The bulk comes from mapping that to psychology, behavioral science, those kinds of stuff, so that we can develop a way forward.
As I expanded my experience here, I also start to see the challenges with neurolinguistics, general semantics, as you mentioned.
But I am trying to master Bazi, so repeated reading on myself and my circle of contacts only is limiting.
Hence, I am trying to tackle as many cases as I can here to practice.
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A very nice idea!Well, good luck and if you think another point of view would be interesting in some case feel free to tag someone, and hopefully we can give alternative reading from the style we use. May not always be better, but at least will give more ways to see something haha : )
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February 2, 1987 16:59, Male.
Lately, I have have been dating a girl twice in the first half of August 2023 but seems like lately she is avoiding me when I directly ask her when she is free, we still talk through text message but I don’t really know what her intentions are.
Also work as been an extra pain this month.
Want to know what the masters see in my chart for the rest of this year in romance and career. Chart is attached too for convenience! Much thanks my morale is very low lately.
Hi Rontron
Your father seemed to be of much higher society but went downwards after you're born, but your family was at still mid-upper society despite the decline.
You're driven as early as your tertiary years. Generally, your lady luck is still very good so no need to rush.
There seemed to be challenges for 2nd half of 2022. Your work and relationship issue will have an outcome by next Saturday 9th September
Please take the best course of attitude and effort till then. I hope the outcome will be favorable.
Best,
Goldman
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On how to interpret your resource element decreasing your love luck - I do not have deep enough understanding of the Ten Gods to explain yet.
Because if we can understand that, we will be able to identify what is the characteristic flaw and change it.
But for now, I am still learning.
If you have any guess, maybe you can share and we can see if it makes sense to the chart.
What more do you need to learn about the 10 gods?Maybe we can help. We use wide variaty of gods.
I think in this case Resource may be his mother or knowledge(usually both, depending if his mother is around).
So like staying in comfort zone, coz what he knows makes him want to play it safe.
While at the same time his mother may not have been too enthusiastic for more risky, expanding inner ideas(Wu fire), so that left a trace.
Resource stends on the way of his Spouse Star in variaty of ways and sides with her when conflict arises, so what he wants seems to align with what he knows and influences of relatives, but he can't get to it, easily as every step that same knowledge is on the way(what will happen, how things will develop etc).
Also has Images of thinking, coz of other reasons, so has the idea there is 'painful' thinking process going on nearby him that is messing everything.
What can he do. Don't think as much or at least align it so its beneficial, meditations, etc.
My mother was quite protective when I was a child, sometimesnintrusive but overall the relationship was decent but with it’s own set of flaws. My older sister for sure has cause some childhood trauma as well which carried into adulthood to some extent. I see where this is going, basically events in my have shaped me who I am today. Not thinking so much and taking more initiative is key that I got in the last bit.
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Hi.
A lot going on kinda missed that part. : )
I see where this is going, basically events in my have shaped me who I am today.
Not exactly : )
We kinda carry them with us, and can change them as well, its very complex to explain. But it is all now, its not from back then(back then is now as well). Its messy and doesn't matter, really, practically at least.
What can you do... Basically, just be fine with it. But to be fine with it has to understand it. So observe, your mother and what you know and how they interact with Spouse representations. If you argue about stuff, what side is your mother on, what does what you know tell you etc.
Its like... If someone learns that 50% + of marriages in most development countries end up in divorce. That knowledge may lead to them having doubts about marriage. So their knowledge, may stand in the way of them having meaningful relationship. And it shouldn't really, can have one without being married etc.
So how knowledge(what you know and how you see the world) interacts with your Spouse Star. And also how your mother or what was influenced by her interact with it.
That is all I think. At least in my humble view.
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February 2, 1987 16:59, Male.
Lately, I have have been dating a girl twice in the first half of August 2023 but seems like lately she is avoiding me when I directly ask her when she is free, we still talk through text message but I don’t really know what her intentions are.
Also work as been an extra pain this month.
Want to know what the masters see in my chart for the rest of this year in romance and career. Chart is attached too for convenience! Much thanks my morale is very low lately.
Hi Rontron
Your father seemed to be of much higher society but went downwards after you're born, but your family was at still mid-upper society despite the decline.
You're driven as early as your tertiary years. Generally, your lady luck is still very good so no need to rush.
There seemed to be challenges for 2nd half of 2022. Your work and relationship issue will have an outcome by next Saturday 9th September
Please take the best course of attitude and effort till then. I hope the outcome will be favorable.
Best,
Goldman
If you are talking about high society then all I know is that that was something my great grandfather achieved in his lifetime. However, during my grandfather’s time, all of that wealth was passed on to his numerous descendants and they pretty much just liquidated everything instead of continuing to maintain or expand the legacy.
In general, my parents were pretty poor but after 15 years or so of hardship, our family were approaching a comfortable middle class family status. However, during my tertiary years as you would call it, my dad started a business which did not do well so our family went into debt and we were forced to sell our home just to pay it off.
It is interesting that you say that I might have an outcome by September 10th. For work, I would say it will most likely continue to be challenging for many months to come. As for the romantic side, I did meet the lady that I have been dating and she did hint that she will come to a decision in these few days. This seems to be the outcome that you have mentioned. I feel she may take longer time than that but thanks for the help!
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Hi Rontron5k,
Regarding the lady you dated in August, I think this query is better handled by a divination method.
As I mentioned in another post, most of us here using a hexagram divination method.
So, you can consider figuring out a way to cast a hexagram with your query question or use this site -> https://bright-hall.net/wwg/.
I don’t have the time right now, but I would be interested in exploring how QMDJ handles these affairs.
All the best,
ren
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@rontron5k
Interestingly, regarding your sister, in your Luck Pillar from 1997 to 2006, between 10 - 20 years old, the LP stem Gui forms a combination with your Hour Pillar Wu earth.
Earth, as controlling element for you, is typically career, but when it comes to personality, it can represent your strength of character, especially with 7K.
Gui water, your equal/friend/sibling element, probably refers to your sister.
The combination reduces energy for both elements, which can explain for the trauma (weakened character) pairing with poor relationship with your sister (reduced Gui).
Is the time period correct?
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I am still very interested to understand how truly your romantic life is affected this Luck Pillar (2017-2026). Because of the Si-Shen combination that happens only during this LP, unlike the Bing-Xin combination which is contained in the natal chart and will last a lifetime. Is it really because of some direct pressure from your mother affecting your love pursuits? Or is it really overthinking on your end? Or something else?
At first, after Gmuli's suggestion, I thought overthinking must be it. But yet you took the first step reaching out to the lady you are interested in. So that seems less characteristic of overthinking. Or was there a lot of overthinking before hand, and the approach was delayed?
But I agree with ren though. So something so specific such as "will this girl accept me?", or "is this person truly the one?" is best handled with divination methods.
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Hey All,
The way I currently see things, the lady Rontron5k currently has an interest in may turn out to be nothing, may be a casual dating friend or become a girlfriend – dependent on querent's intention and hers. Overall, this is neither good nor bad. His future long term relationship or wife may come later. But that does not mean Rontron should not be currently pursuing ladies, dating, etc.
With regard to a suitable querent question, “will this girl accept me?”, can be a reasonable question. I would say at this current time, “is this person truly the one?” may not be.
ren
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@rontron5k
Interestingly, regarding your sister, in your Luck Pillar from 1997 to 2006, between 10 - 20 years old, the LP stem Gui forms a combination with your Hour Pillar Wu earth.
Earth, as controlling element for you, is typically career, but when it comes to personality, it can represent your strength of character, especially with 7K.
Gui water, your equal/friend/sibling element, probably refers to your sister.
The combination reduces energy for both elements, which can explain for the trauma (weakened character) pairing with poor relationship with your sister (reduced Gui).
Is the time period correct?
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I am still very interested to understand how truly your romantic life is affected this Luck Pillar (2017-2026). Because of the Si-Shen combination that happens only during this LP, unlike the Bing-Xin combination which is contained in the natal chart and will last a lifetime. Is it really because of some direct pressure from your mother affecting your love pursuits? Or is it really overthinking on your end? Or something else?
At first, after Gmuli's suggestion, I thought overthinking must be it. But yet you took the first step reaching out to the lady you are interested in. So that seems less characteristic of overthinking. Or was there a lot of overthinking before hand, and the approach was delayed?
But I agree with ren though. So something so specific such as "will this girl accept me?", or "is this person truly the one?" is best handled with divination methods.
Well there were some things that my sister did during that time period that made me hold a grudge on her but nothing big, I think she was a bigger negative influence on me between 2013-2018, it would be a real life example of her reducing spouse and 7k when I think about the presence of my sister living in the same space as me and my girlfriend. It was mostly because my sister wanted to make sure she gets her half of ownership
of the home. It even caused me to despise my parents for me putting me in a situation which I felt I had no control over. Basically like a bad deed was accidentally committed with noble intentions.Nowadays I no longer hate her and we get along fine.
Interestingly, my sister left soon after me and my girlfriend of 5 years whom I thought I was going to marry left me.
Well firstly I can explain my romantic timeline for 2017 until present. I cannot remember exact dates but I went into a relationship near the end of 2013. My relationship became really shaky in 2018 aug-sept as my ex decided to move away and live by herself and she wanted a break from me, she came back to me almost a month or so later but lastly she broke up with me for good a few days after CNY in 2019. I felt quite broken inside and felt like I lost a sense of identity. Throughout 2019 I met a few girls from online app and got into a relationship with one that lasted until first half of august 2023. It was definitely the wrong type of relationship and some what abusive, felt like a karmic relationship and the hardest part was breaking up with her which I already wanted to do in 2020 but even I can’t believe it dragged out until recently and I am glad it is finally over as I found the courage to tell her. The girl I am seeing now is someone I met from my workplace around March 2023 of this year and I started secretly liking her. Eventually I followed her on Instagram and she initiated talking to me and we casually chatted online until we met up in August… It got passionate fast on first time dating. My intentions is to find a long time partner whom I can get married with but she has been busy with her life so we rarely get to meet and I do not know what her intentions are for me and she told me she needs time. She is studying Astrology so we have even exchanged birth data.
Secondly I don’t think my mother is the big influence. I was a self conscious kid growing up and one event really left a scar on me and cause me to avoid rejection. A second event also caused me to change my outer personality quite a bit after I experienced rejection in highschool from thr girl I had a crush on. In general I would say all my relationships that came after highschool were either sudden or mostly I was the one being pursued. So this time around, I feel
like I am being challenged as I am the one doing the chasing once again and I definitely overthink about it on this part.
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Hi @rontron5k ,
Thanks for sharing your background.
Unfortunately, I really can't correlate 2013 to 2018 with the way I read your chart :(
All your relationship woes starting from 2017 can still be reasoned with the Si-Shen combination for this 2017-2026 luck pillar.
Suppose that is correct, then I am not sure how to advise for love, because in the 2027-2036 pillar, Bing is being sucked into the original Bing-Xin combination, losing fire (relationship luck). Following pillar, 2037 to 2046, has a Wei that will combined with your original Wu, losing fire again.
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Hi @rontron5k ,
Thanks for sharing your background.
Unfortunately, I really can't correlate 2013 to 2018 with the way I read your chart :(
All your relationship woes starting from 2017 can still be reasoned with the Si-Shen combination for this 2017-2026 luck pillar.
Suppose that is correct, then I am not sure how to advise for love, because in the 2027-2036 pillar, Bing is being sucked into the original Bing-Xin combination, losing fire (relationship luck). Following pillar, 2037 to 2046, has a Wei that will combined with your original Wu, losing fire again.
I heard I am a weak daymaster, would having some diminished fire be a good thing to keep things in balance?
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@rontron5k ,
Well, your fire elements are not as devastating as your earth, especially the 戊 suppressing your Day Master.
So I would rather deal with the 戊 instead of reducing your fires further.
After all, fire is your wealth - better you strengthen yourself to grasp its benefits than to lose more of it.
For that I think introducing yang metal will be better, especially in the stems to bridge 戊 to your Day Master.
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@rontron5k ,
Well, your fire elements are not as devastating as your earth, especially the 戊 suppressing your Day Master.
So I would rather deal with the 戊 instead of reducing your fires further.
After all, fire is your wealth - better you strengthen yourself to grasp its benefits than to lose more of it.
For that I think introducing yang metal will be better, especially in the stems to bridge 戊 to your Day Master.
So I need to reprogram ymy mind and break throught menta barriers.
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@rontron5k ,
In a way, yes.
But anything within the realms of support element activities that makes sense to you will do.
i.e. More rest/sleep, meditation/contemplation, learning to name a few.
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At first, after Gmuli's suggestion, I thought overthinking must be it. But yet you took the first step reaching out to the lady you are interested in. So that seems less characteristic of overthinking. Or was there a lot of overthinking before hand, and the approach was delayed?
I think its a little different. He will charge for her(Ren clashing Bing).but...
Yin comes to support Wu. So she tries to combine with him. Chou comes in the way, pushing Wu away then combining with Yin instead.
So way of thinking that pushed inner world away that she believes in and leaves.
Like someone saying negative stuff that they don't really feel, but that makes sense and seems solid at the time and somewhat with the idea of protection.
So Wu and Yin had combination. But now Chou is activated, pushing Wu away with Harm and making hidden combination with Yin instead.
She is dropping the deep connection and she actually is convinced by the logic of Chou/xin.
And there is Resource in Chou, so based on knowledge. Metal so voiced out/said stuff.
What can one do...
Well, it isn't just thinking. Xin has images of voice. Both in Chou and on top. So this is said stuff that she believes and breaks the connection.Careful of speech.
Avoid Xu and Wei for dates. 13-15 and 19-21.
And more positive thinking. : )
There are other parts to this. Metal empowers DM. So making yourself stronger breaks the connection to Wu in Day Branch.
So being more vulnerable in theory in relationship, but this is way too far from what we can say in forums, so much guessing now.
But may be along these lines.
And in 2013-2018 mechanic is different. All fall in Chen, so this doesn't play at. Chou hidden stem shows a sibling and a document/knowledge/resource. Another Sibling in Chen with hidden water stem. So another person and sister. Soon as that is over and new LP starts, all are free and they leave, as Chou combines with Yin again.
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At first, after Gmuli's suggestion, I thought overthinking must be it. But yet you took the first step reaching out to the lady you are interested in. So that seems less characteristic of overthinking. Or was there a lot of overthinking before hand, and the approach was delayed?
I think its a little different. He will charge for her(Ren clashing Bing).but...
Yin comes to support Wu. So she tries to combine with him. Chou comes in the way, pushing Wu away then combining with Yin instead.
So way of thinking that pushed inner world away that she believes in and leaves.
Like someone saying negative stuff that they don't really feel, but that makes sense and seems solid at the time and somewhat with the idea of protection.
So Wu and Yin had combination. But now Chou is activated, pushing Wu away with Harm and making hidden combination with Yin instead.
She is dropping the deep connection and she actually is convinced by the logic of Chou/xin.
And there is Resource in Chou, so based on knowledge. Metal so voiced out/said stuff.
What can one do...
Well, it isn't just thinking. Xin has images of voice. Both in Chou and on top. So this is said stuff that she believes and breaks the connection.Careful of speech.
Avoid Xu and Wei for dates. 13-15 and 19-21.
And more positive thinking. : )
There are other parts to this. Metal empowers DM. So making yourself stronger breaks the connection to Wu in Day Branch.
So being more vulnerable in theory in relationship, but this is way too far from what we can say in forums, so much guessing now.
But may be along these lines.
And in 2013-2018 mechanic is different. All fall in Chen, so this doesn't play at. Chou hidden stem shows a sibling and a document/knowledge/resource. Another Sibling in Chen with hidden water stem. So another person and sister. Soon as that is over and new LP starts, all are free and they leave, as Chou combines with Yin again.
Indeed the took the first step but that was only because on our first date, it was very obvious that she liked me. The overthinking came after because it seems like she was a playing a mind game with me by gradually communicating less. As a consequence my fear of rejection kicked in as well and I halted from attempting to make any further advances. Not sure if there is still a chance or a time to make it get back on the track of success in 2024.
What you just described for 2013-2018 might be referring to a my ex-girlfriend and sister. And at the time, my sister was doing everything she can to claim herself a share of the apartment as she does not legally have right to it she but she was trying was trying to hold on through my parents. She saw my ex-girlfriend as a threat so she made it hard for her to live there. In the end we were unable to get married and finally my sister left as well. The whole situation felt karmic.