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Title: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 08, 2023, 01:46:43 AM
Male

16 oct 2001, around 10am
Thank you
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 08, 2023, 06:34:25 AM
City of birth?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 08, 2023, 01:38:34 PM
jakarta, indonesia
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 09, 2023, 04:04:22 AM
Thanks @zirener ,

Anything specific within career, finance and/or relationship that you want to consult on?
Is there a roadblock you are facing in those areas?

It is easier and typically more accurate if you have a problem to pinpoint on than a generic whole life reading.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 09, 2023, 06:05:11 AM
In regards to roadblock, I am currently stuck in my studies. I took a very difficult major as I was interested in it, but currently not sure if I could finish my degree. This also affects my career choices as I am not sure which sector works for me. I am really interested in military stuff and thought about doing public services, at the same time I would like to work in finance, and also having interest in law as well. I would like to know if I should keep pushing with my current studies provided I will graduate or to drop my studies, and also which industry would be most suited for my career, also if there are chances of entrepreneurship in the future. In regards to relationship, I would like to know if prospects are someone I know in my childhood or workplace or somewhere else. Also, I’m told its better for me to marry late?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 09, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
Hi @zirener,

Thanks for the clarification on your pain points.
As it is a loaded request, I will break down my responses into 3 replies:
   • Personality check, Education analysis and advice
   • Career analysis and advice
   • Relationship analysis and advice

Attached 1st image is your chart, solar corrected to Jakarta at time of birth.
Attached 2nd image is my analysis for personality and Educational challenges.
As personality is not the aim, I shall not elaborate/repeat in writing here (nothing to elaborate anyway, it's just an estimation based on Bazi chart), but do feedback how much of it is correct - I would like to check on my accuracy.

Also, I am using 5 elements approach for this Bazi reading, not traditional or mangpai.
If there are other forumers who supplement with traditional or mangpai style readings, please take them all into considerations.
Areas that coincide are likely to be much more accurate.

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For the challenges in education, it is likely due to 丙辛 and 巳申 combination occuring between your natal and 10-year luck pillar (丙申 pillar).
As water Day Master, Metal (辛 and 申) is your support luck.
Support covers mother/parents, moral values, etc., including education and learning.
During this 2014-2023 period, the 丙辛 and 巳申 combination causes challenges in the learning journey as combinations steals away the energies/luck from the affected elements.
You questioning yourself is likely due the fire elements 丙 and 巳, which are your wealth elements, also being affected in the combination.
Wealth elements, other than money, represents one's pursuit of value.

The good news is that, this 10-year luck pillar is coming to an end in 2023.
This feeling will go away in 2024, which is the start of a new 10-year luck pillar (乙未 pillar).
Your natal 辛 metal will be free from imprisonment by 丙 fire after 2023, which should give you a boost of education luck.
So if your major extends beyond 2023, you can take comfort that you only need to endure a few more months of hardship and uncertainty before things gets better.
But if your major ends this year, then you can only rely on honest hard work and will to succeed - hopefully that is enough to push you pass the finish line with good results.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 09, 2023, 05:34:30 PM
@zirener - Part 2 on Career:

For which industry is suitable, we can look at it from 2 perspectives: the elemental nature of the industry and its compatibility with your chart, and/or the correlation to your Ten Gods.

Ten Gods in brief:
   • Officer = element that controls your Day Master = Earth for you
   • Support/Resource = element that grows Day Master = Metal for you
   • Self/Peer/Friend = same element as Day Master = water for you
   • Output/Expression = element that Day Master grows = wood for you
   • Wealth = element that Day Master controls = fire for you

Sometimes from different perspective, the elements conflict for the same aspect in life.
Example: Finance and money is closely related to water because water flows just like money in the real world, but your wealth element based on 10 gods is fire. So should we look at water or fire for money luck? This is the tricky part.
I'll do my best to assimilate and converge them.

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Military, Public Services, Government Officials
For this, the Officer element will be the obvious choice due to the direct meaning behind the terminology.
Your Officer elements are actually dominating in your chart, plus I think your personality leans towards being obedient, so I think military, public services or government type jobs is suitable.
For military, if you intend to be involve in the aggressive side of things, like being a combat personnel, then your healthy fire element would be generally a good fit.
Also, your next 10-Year Luck Pillar will add another 未 earth-officer element, making this option even more attractive.

Finance
This is a mixed bag as your 子 water is under threat by 戌 most of the time.
So if you do work in this line, don't be in the position to handle the flow of money.
If you mean working in finance as in like a trader, where you manage your own money and is basically your own boss, then it is still possible because your 巳 fire wealth luck is healthy generally.
But it is still best you don't handle the transactions yourself, and make decisions based on fixed investment rules (using 戊 & 戌 to give you a fixed process) to keep you safe.
I wouldn't recommend this over the military, public services and government roles.

Law
This is also a mixed bag as you don't seem to have the gift of the gap (乙 wood, your natural expressiveness is suppressed). 子 water, from an elemental POV, also represents communication, or the flow of conversation, and it is too suppressed by 戌. Your 巳 howver, helps, as fire is a necessary aggression in a courtroom argument (if you are into that kind of lawyer job), and at the same time it is also your wealth element, which represents your intellect and focus to achieve your objective.
So again, as a mixed bag, I would not recommend it over military, public services and government roles.

Entrepreneurship
Yes, this is a possible route.
If you are the boss and not working under someone else, your ability to succeed is tied to your wealth luck.
Since your 巳 is generally ok, I would say this is a viable choice.
If you want to keep this option in the future, then 2034 to 2053 is the best time to put it into action as those 10-Year Luck Pillars are fire-based.

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To summarize, I think you can start with a military and/or public service job until 2033, then swap over to entrepreneurship if you want.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 09, 2023, 05:35:45 PM
@zirener - Part 3 on Relationship:

For males, luck with females takes reference from wealth element.
You should have ok luck since your 巳 fires are generally unharmed.
I think whoever told you it will be better to marry late could be referring to your 2034 to 2053 fire-based 10-Year Luck Pillars.
If you are trying hard to find a spouse, you can focus your efforts more during fire months or years - don't wait for the sake of Bazi.

I don't think it is possible to tell through Bazi whether your potential spouse will come from childhood, workplace, or somewhere else specifically.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: coldpillow on October 09, 2023, 07:18:00 PM
In regards to roadblock, I am currently stuck in my studies. I took a very difficult major as I was interested in it, but currently not sure if I could finish my degree.

What is your current major?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 10, 2023, 06:17:55 AM
I am currently doing Actuarial Studies, basically using maths, stats and finance to do analysis; mainly used in insurance but also banks as well. Based on the assumption above, I’m assuming this is water based industry? Also, do I have the prowess to do music as a side gig, such as composing?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 10, 2023, 06:40:25 AM
@zirener ,

I guess Actuarial is still largely leaning toward water, given its strong ties to money and value of things.

Music composing-wise, have to becareful. Music would likely be wood, and your wood is natively curbed. Wood is also your expression, which is crucial to producing music. So it would be better to wait for time periods where your wood is stronger to take it on on a serious note.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: ren on October 10, 2023, 09:05:34 PM
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Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: coldpillow on October 11, 2023, 07:02:49 PM
Based on the assumption above, I’m assuming this is water based industry? Also, do I have the prowess to do music as a side gig, such as composing?

Finance-related career generally belongs to metal category, similar to law and military.

Both metal and water also deal with different kind of uncertainty. With metal, the uncertainty is related to winning and losing (competition). The uncertainty of water is related to changes (forces of nature, randomness).

I guess actuaries is more like water, indeed.

Arts generally belongs to fire, including music. What is your musical taste, I wonder?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 19, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
Based on the assumption above, I’m assuming this is water based industry? Also, do I have the prowess to do music as a side gig, such as composing?

Finance-related career generally belongs to metal category, similar to law and military.

Both metal and water also deal with different kind of uncertainty. With metal, the uncertainty is related to winning and losing (competition). The uncertainty of water is related to changes (forces of nature, randomness).

I guess actuaries is more like water, indeed.

Arts generally belongs to fire, including music. What is your musical taste, I wonder?

In terms of music taste, I did classicals and jazz, but over time has developed music taste in R&B hip hop as well.

Just wondering, what are usually fire type industries?

Also, which other elements would suit me better?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: coldpillow on October 20, 2023, 10:46:33 AM
Just wondering, what are usually fire type industries?

Also, which other elements would suit me better?

Aside from arts & entertainment, fire is typically related to sales/marketing, hairdressing, spa, restaurant and energy sector.

I think metal is the best, followed by water.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 20, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
I think the "performing" part of arts, that display of passion for the craft, is fire.
The act of composing, creating is wood.

2024 starts a brand new decade luck, introducing another 乙 wood, which will help with the composing.
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: zirener on October 24, 2023, 02:34:56 PM
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Hey Zirener, All,

This is an interesting chart. A lot of stuff is going on.

The way I currently read things... I think there are two main things going on.
- Ren -> Yi -> Yi combines with Wu (earth) and birth / combines with Si.
- Wet Earth and Fire want to control Water and Metal.
The only issue would be it there are some conflicting interactions.

Qi Sha sits solidly, right next to the Day pillar. This could be bad, but both Wu (earth) and Xu do stuff.
The day pillar, Ren Zi is DM sitting on its Yang Ren. It sits nicely next to an auspicious Qi Sha.
So this gives images of military work, law enforcement, legal work, and lawyers. Could also include sports-related or competitive stuff. Water and Metal involved in the work processes can indicate interest in financial stuff.
Personality may be strong but not overbearing. Yi as output denotes someone who can speak well. Creativity, sprouting out new ideas.
Resource in the year may indicate good education, intelligence, and eloquence.

The chart shows the potential to own a business, work in government / public sector, and also in the mid-sector. There are a lot of possibilities. The only issues may be conflicting interactions and how the LPs dictate.

One way to maybe look at things... Observe what you do well and what skill sets you naturally gravitate towards. All the markets and professions mentioned can overlap, as well as overlap with your positive (and negative) traits.
Find an environment that will expose you to the stuff that interests you; if possible, find a mentor; and allow your intuition to work.
If you feel that you are stressed... Whenever you feel stressed, ask yourself why you feel this way, understand the “why" and then work those things out.

Bazi just indicates potentials, possible paths, and potential timelines. It does not make decisions. It does not solve problems. Bazi just provides knowledge and insights.

JMHO,

ren

Been reading a little bit about Bazi and I noticed that my current luck pillar HS Bing combines with Xin, but also conflicted with Ren DM. In this case, will both take effect or one of them taking precedence? Is this possible reason there are obstacles in my studies?

Also, is this considered a strong chart?
Title: Re: Please help read my chart, career, finance, relationship
Post by: aeonrel on October 25, 2023, 05:28:19 AM
@zirener ,

For HS, basics: combines goes first before other interactions.
And the participating elements are unaccessible for other interactions afterwards.

A bit more advance: combines in natal chart goes first before combines coming from decade or annual pillars.

Even more advance: interaction from rolling month, day, hours in order of precedence, and the reach for each. I think for different schools, there may be different teaching, so you can do your own research on this based on your preference.

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Your chart should be weak because:
So overall I would conclude your are weak chart.

But charting and structure assessment is also more of a thing for traditional school, so there are ways to go about life and succeed with a weak chart.