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Title: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on March 15, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
祝香咒
Incense Prayer Incantation
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道由心学
Dao is studied from the Heart

心假香传
Heart is transmitted through the incense

香焚玉炉
Incense burns in the Jade Furnace

心存蒂前
Heart is before God

真灵下盼
True spirit gazes down

仙旆临轩
Procession of immortals comes to the sacred place

弟子关告
Allowing the disciple to express his/her prayers

径[迳]达九天
Scriptures reach nine heavens...
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Sacrar on March 11, 2020, 01:50:58 PM
祝香咒
Incense Prayer Incantation
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道由心学
Dao is studied from the Heart

心假香传
Heart is transmitted through the incense

香焚玉炉
Incense burns in the Jade Furnace

心存蒂前
Heart is before God

真灵下盼
True spirit gazes down

仙旆临轩
Procession of immortals comes to the sacred place

弟子关告
Allowing the disciple to express his/her prayers

径[迳]达九天
Scriptures reach nine heavens...

I don't know if I understood well it.  Are we supposed to recite that sentence / prayer as literal as it is written, paragraph by paragraph?
@Tientai

It doesn't seem like a prayer but rather an explanation of why to burn incense.
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on March 11, 2020, 04:55:40 PM
Coaxing Spirits with incantation while incense burn ..!!
.. before asking a query  ...
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Sacrar on March 11, 2020, 07:59:35 PM
Coaxing Spirits with incantation while incense burn ..!!
.. before asking a query  ...

I will give it a try it! . The ritual is important, even if one does not believe in it, they are factors that affect the accuracy of the answers.  Maybe it has to do with what is named "chaos magic".  Thanks for sharing Tientai.
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on March 11, 2020, 09:12:34 PM
Coaxing Spirits with incantation while incense burn ..!!
.. before asking a query  ...

I will give it a try it! . The ritual is important, even if one does not believe in it, they are factors that affect the accuracy of the answers.  Maybe it has to do with what is named "chaos magic".  Thanks for sharing Tientai.

Yes, I start simply using it  and now I believe on it the most ... !!
Trust and Reverence are important factors on making "Divinations"...
BTW Daoist incence ceremony has a special form to communicate with "Spirits ".. and can seen on the waving of incence smoke when is burning. .!!  Perhaps I will post it in another Topic .!!

Tt.

Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 11, 2020, 11:00:00 PM
Dongbao (Coin toss) -- Hi Tientai, could you write the Chinese characters for Dongbao?  Did you mean 銅拋?

Yes, I know one forumer here who burned incense prior to tossing the coins, but unfortunately she is no longer active in this divinatory art.
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on March 11, 2020, 11:13:21 PM
Hi, Jlim ..

Yes correct 銅拋 Tóng pāo means  Coin tossing ...
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Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Johan Hausen Purple Cloud on March 27, 2025, 04:03:50 PM
祝香咒
Incense Prayer Incantation
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道由心学
Dao is studied from the Heart


Scriptures reach nine heavens...

This is called  the incense incantation 祝香咒 of Daoism and is one of the eight great incanatation
Title: Re: Preparations for Dongbao (Coin toss) - Liu Yao Incense Prayer Incantation.
Post by: Johan Hausen Purple Cloud on March 27, 2025, 04:04:57 PM
Dongbao (Coin toss) -- Hi Tientai, could you write the Chinese characters for Dongbao?  Did you mean 銅拋?

Yes, I know one forumer here who burned incense prior to tossing the coins, but unfortunately she is no longer active in this divinatory art.

I do too and recite a longer incantation to the sages of the Yijing, at the altar of course.