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Title: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on March 24, 2018, 05:27:38 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on March 24, 2018, 09:11:34 AM
Dear @Phoenix  hi ..
I would like to clarify your asking :
1. On this work what is your relationship with the employer? ... are you partners or do you work as an employee? ..
2. The reason you asked about the future is about this working situation or do you have any other Job ?
3. has already been passed a month from your 1st Tossing  (now Mao month)... the current state has changed?

There is great possibility this month can break the bounds engaged with your employer ..
wait your reply

Tientai
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on March 24, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
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Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 25, 2018, 10:42:44 AM
Hi Phoenix,

1.  Third Line Officer is You Metal that comes with Gou Chen.  And this You Metal is also connected to the Fifth Line. Is this job in property, land, farming or forestry, and are you often outdoor?
2.  You have not been applying for another permanent job?
3.  I don't understand why you would get only 3 months allowance if you are dismissed.  Since you said you have been working for 6 years, I would expect more compensation.
4.  What kind of job would make you dismissed if there is no new plan yet?  It seems that the company/your department has not been doing well financially.
5.  Your current job started in 2012 Chen year, because Chen combines with You (your current job).  But anyway you did mention you have been there for 6 years.
6.  Time of divination.  I cannot see the time on @Gmuli 's software, but I see it on the Chinese app as 19:03.  What time did you start to toss coins?  This is a minor detail for my research.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on March 26, 2018, 01:09:05 AM
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Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 29, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
Hi Phoenix, more analysis for you:

1.  Second line Parents+Siblings represents your boss. 
2.  Fifth line Officer clashes the Second line, and Officer moves progressively to another Officer line You Metal.
3.  So, you and your boss will separate, and you move to a better job than now
4.  A better job because fifth line is higher than the second line.  Fifth line is also a progressive line.
5.  You aspire a job with managerial role, but you're also in waiting mode, what the company's policy is. 
     Self line is You Officer, and You Officer appears in the Fifth line.

Two timings:
6.  I agree with you that Wu month is timing of separation.  Self line moves to Wu Fire, which overcomes Self line.
7.  You will actively seek for a new job starting in Shen month.  That's when the chance of a better job is higher.  Because Shen --> You (Fifth line).
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on March 30, 2018, 09:11:02 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on March 30, 2018, 05:50:02 PM
...although the disputes occured in early 2017,  the seed of problems had been there in 2013 ?
Based on the hexagram, I think the dispute with your boss already started in 2016.

In my view, you will likely not work with him again, because of the Shen-Yin clash, and then Shen changed to another line.  As for the meaning of clash, I explained it in my previous analysis.

1.  Third Line Officer is You Metal that comes with Gou Chen.  And this You Metal is also connected to the Fifth Line. Is this job in property, land, farming or forestry, and are you often outdoor?
The bold one means the new job will be in the same industry.  But it will be with a new company.  It's because the Fifth Changed Line appears at the Day Branch.

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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on April 01, 2018, 04:33:40 PM
A huge thanks, Master Jlim  :)

I'll give update news when the time is come....
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on April 02, 2018, 10:03:11 AM
Hi Phoenix,
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4.  What kind of job would make you dismissed if there is no new plan yet?  It seems that the company/your department has not been doing well financially.
Hi All, the bold one is correct.  For the interest of Liu Yao learners, do you see how I see it? I'm replotting the hexagrams with a format that I usually use:

(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2018/04/02/image.png)
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on April 02, 2018, 10:29:13 AM
Chou is damage by Xu. Overspending or corruption or legal expenses...
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on April 02, 2018, 04:32:31 PM
Chou is damage by Xu. Overspending or corruption or legal expenses...
What is the difference between Chou Wealth and Xu Wealth in this hexagram?

Anybody else has any remark?
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 02, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
What is the difference between Chou Wealth and Xu Wealth in this hexagram?

I think that
1.Chou earth Wealth in first yao of this Hexagram for the reason that is a tomb of Metal .. this earth wealth produces  Metal .. this is for wealth for getting out of tomb (or spending ??)

2. Xu earth wealth in 6th yao of this Hexagram for the reason that is a tomb of Fire .. this  Earth wealth is produced by the fire .. this is for wealth entering the tomb ( saving money ?? )
... I am not sure ..!!
.. Perhaps the reverse is true ..!!
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Dao on April 02, 2018, 09:13:09 PM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on April 03, 2018, 09:27:17 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Dao on April 03, 2018, 11:22:11 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on April 03, 2018, 05:27:17 PM
Dear Master @JLim

... Are You estimate (or account) the San He formation of Fire by the Shi/Self changed Wu child yao with the 6th Ying /Other  Xu wealth yao and with the 2nd fu shen Yin brother yao ( .. or  Yin wood EB of the Month) ...  after Kong Wang of Wu child  ??
Thanks a lot
Tt.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on April 04, 2018, 11:38:31 AM
Hi Tientai, you're asking about the San He (triangular) formation of 戌 Xu, 午 Wu and 寅 Yin:

(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2018/04/04/Capture.png)

The combination is not formed successfully.  There is more than one reason, and one of them is Wu Fire is in Kong Wang.

If the combination was successful, then the company's finances would have been quite good.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on April 04, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
Hi Dao, only for specific applications do I refer to trigrams and hexagram families.

Such reference is secondary to analysis of the six lines.  What are important for me: Six Kins, Six Gods, Month and Day Branch, and line interactions. 
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: ren on April 04, 2018, 08:33:59 PM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Dao on April 09, 2018, 11:48:24 AM
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Post by: Phoenix on June 02, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on August 17, 2018, 05:51:45 AM
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Post by: JLim (Darma W) on August 17, 2018, 04:04:40 PM
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Post by: JLim (Darma W) on August 17, 2018, 06:11:51 PM
For guests who are reading the topic, Phoenix used login mode, so I would rather follow suit. She gave feedback for her hexagram of 6 months ago. Indeed she separated with her employers in Wu month or June, as analyzed from the same hexagram, although they were different employers than she made a query for.

There are more details to her feedback in the hidden post, which is accessible once you log in.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on July 16, 2019, 07:53:53 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on July 16, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
Thank you for the update, Phoenix.  Yeah, quite often we predict two possibilities, either the upcoming Wu month or next year's Wu month.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on September 08, 2019, 06:09:25 PM
4.  What kind of job would make you dismissed if there is no new plan yet?  It seems that the company/your department has not been doing well financially.
Hi Phoenix, can you confirm again if the financial performance is still true about your previous company/department that you used to work in?
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Phoenix on September 15, 2019, 08:55:49 AM
Hi Phoenix, can you confirm again if the financial performance is still true about your previous company/department that you used to work in?

Dear Master Jlim,

Do you mean the condition during i worked?  2012 - mid 2015 was good. after mid 2015, we were lacking of customers. 2016, most money was gained by selling raw lands (private assets), not profit from construction works.

bank loan was used to construct every building, so any profit was shared to pay the interest beside some company costs. anyway, he is rich and his father is very rich. even if they decide to not sell the buildings, the company costs and bank loans are still coverable.

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There is also a meaning for Wealth line being on the Sixth line, but I leave it for later  ;)

maybe it means third party's wealth.. like bank loan?

thank you
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on September 15, 2019, 05:22:50 PM
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There is also a meaning for Wealth line being on the Sixth line, but I leave it for later  ;)
maybe it means third party's wealth.. like bank loan?
The sixth line is the topmost line, where you cannot go any higher.  This means the company could not develop any further.  Moreover, when we note the Six Animals, Xuan Wu or Murky Warrior on a weak line means that the company's wealth was not stable.  Xuan Wu is Water, on a weak line, indicates uncertainty and instability.

bank loan was used to construct every building, so any profit was shared to pay the interest beside some company costs. anyway, he is rich and his father is very rich. even if they decide to not sell the buildings, the company costs and bank loans are still coverable.
Good to know, although the aspect about the father was beyond the scope of the hexagram.
Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Sacrar on September 11, 2020, 01:31:24 AM
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Title: Re: Career : How the Future?
Post by: Sacrar on September 11, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
It turns out that the contract ended in Hai Year. I find it curious that in the hexagram Yin Sibling is bound to Hai Parents and that Yin clashed Shen metal in the fifth line. It seems to have the image of breaking labour contract.