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Title: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 04, 2018, 05:38:11 PM

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** Let's have fewer choices for this time! Please choose one of the following (location is China):
A. Fish farm owner   B. Cook in army logistics   C. National budget office employee   D. Cashier in a private company

** In which 10-year Luck Pillar was his career better:
E. Ji Mao (1995-2005)     F. Geng Chen (2005-2015)
 
- Feel free to answer one or two questions
- You can use any method, from Bazi, ZWDS, Liu Yao, Mei Hua, QMDJ, Tarot, Western astrology etc.
- Please note the order of Bazi pillars: Year-Month-Day-Hour
- The time is the same with or without solar time adjustment.  Sorry, the birth place cannot provided

The answer will be revealed in a few days.  Have fun! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Gmuli on June 04, 2018, 09:55:25 PM

Really interesting quizes, thanks. : )

I will go with C.

1) Wealth as Water falling in Chen(Friends/People)
Meaning a lot of wealthy people around him.

A is excluded, left are these 3:
B. Cook in army logistics   C. National budget office employee   D. Cashier in a private company

2)Chen and Wu have similarities, meaning he is taking Images of that(even without that Zi<>Chen still suggest shared images).
B can't be as cook wouldn't be as wealthy.

C and D left.

3)A lot of authority around him.
B and C left.

So will go with C.
 C. National budget office employee

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E. Ji Mao (1995-2005)     F. Geng Chen (2005-2015)

So work process Wood <> Water is stronger, or Water falling in Chen.

Mao <> Zi harm seems contradicting.
Geng <> Yi... Maybe a problem, not sure.
But will go with F.

So C on first and F on second. : )

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Chary on June 05, 2018, 06:07:26 AM

This is easier than previous quiz, This is more like accountant chart in her family company.
D. Cashier in a private company
F. Geng Chen (2005-2015)

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on June 05, 2018, 10:55:46 AM

Let's try ...!!

Earth is related to friends, siblings or money.

Metal is related to child, fame or brilliance.

Water is related to money, wealth or luxury.

Wood is related to career, pressure or power. 
( C. National budget office employee  )

Fire is related to parents, reputation or health.


E. Ji Mao (1995-2005)     
- Friends come, money goes and career comes.

The sign for this period is related to career and money. It looks like the owner might have a career opportunity. But someone is blocking his way. Need to work on the problem to get your career opportunity. Might have to spend money on people around you to get the position. It’s possible that a friend or relative could ask for money to help owner for career opportunity.   So should try to do anything to handle the problem. Should certainly take responsibility for success or failure.

F. Geng Chen (2005-2015)
- Fame comes and friends come.

This is a good sign for reputation. That means this is a good time for showing the knowledge, talent, publish a book or some sort of specialty that caters to people. People are willing to listen; and know much more about owner than what he thinks. Might have to work extra hours for several projects. Will increasing reputation during this time. Might spending money on friends or siblings and help them get rid of their money problems.( C. National budget office employee  ).
  When owner get famous and people are talking about him, some friends will come and ask for charity. Some people think owner is a rich man, but financial status is the same as before. In short, just get famous. But money luck hasn’t come yet.

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Phoenix on June 07, 2018, 02:11:07 AM

C & F

The work on chart is Jia Yin controls Chen in year  pillar.

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 08, 2018, 03:27:06 PM

The answer is C. National budget office employee, and E. Ji Mao (1995-2005)

Quote from: Tientai on June 05, 2018, 10:55:46 AM

( C. National budget office employee  )

Correct!

Quote from: Phoenix on June 07, 2018, 02:11:07 AM

C & F
The work on chart is Jia Yin controls Chen in year  pillar.

C is correct! Yes, I agree that the work process on the chart is as what you wrote!!  This is based on Mangpai!

Quote from: Gmuli on June 04, 2018, 09:55:25 PM

So will go with C. National budget office employee

1) Wealth as Water falling in Chen(Friends/People)

Yes! And Chen as Wealth Tomb is in the Year, so he works for the government.  "D. Cashier in a private company" is very similar, but the difference is private or government.

You're right that Chen also stands for Friends/People.  I agree with Phoenix that Jia Yin controls Chen in the Year Pillar.  This means he controls his co-workers, or he has some authority.

But his authority can't be that high, because this chart has mixed Guan Sha, or Officer Stars mingling together.  He often has pressure from his managers at his job, and meets backstabbers at work.   

Actually the controlling work towards Chen is not so good.  But in LP Ji Mao (1995-2005), Ji combines with Jia, and more importantly Mao helps to control Chen completely.  He moved to higher positions in the national budget office.  He was married in 1986 with two children.  In 1996 he had a mistress, and another child from her. 

LP Geng Chen (2005-2015) was not good.  The interaction of Geng clashing Jia is against what the chart wants to use.  His company owned the bank a lot of money, and his career was unfavorably affected. 

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Based on the traditional Bazi theory of strong and weak, this is clearly a weak DM, so LP Ji Mao should not be auspicious.  But not according to Mangpai, and indeed he had a very good career during that LP.

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 08, 2018, 03:34:21 PM

Quote from: JLim on June 04, 2018, 05:38:11 PM

A. Fish farm owner   B. Cook in army logistics   C. National budget office employee   D. Cashier in a private company

A is not likely because the chart is not an entrepreneur's chart.  However the business field is likely, because Chen as Water Tomb can also represent a fish business.
B is not likely because there is no Output

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 13, 2018, 06:02:12 PM

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This is a sequel to the quiz last week, where you guessed his profession.

What unlucky event happened in 1994 Jia Xu Year?  Please choose one of the following:
G.  Went to jail    H. Father died    I. Mother died

You don't need to know the first quiz to play with this one.  Here's the chart and 10-year luck pillars again (location is China). :

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www.bazi-calculator.com

- You can use any method, from Bazi, ZWDS, Liu Yao, Mei Hua, QMDJ, Tarot, Western astrology etc.
- Please note the order of Bazi pillars: Year-Month-Day-Hour
- The time is the same with or without solar time adjustment.  Sorry, the birth place cannot provided

The answer will be revealed in a few days.  Have fun! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: Miss A on June 13, 2018, 10:44:58 PM

Hi JLim. Thank you for nice quizzes.
I choose answer H.
If I am right, Hai is the farther. It is entombed in Chen and the tomb is not open which is not a good sign in terms of health/luck of a relative.
It is sub-LP Yin, Yin combines with Hai. It means that this sub-LP is about his parents. Yi Hai is Parents Palace.
Xu from AP opens Chen tomb and combines with Yin. This Fire An He weakens Water in Hai a lot. Hai has no support from Chen or Zi as Xu also overcomes Zi.
Jia in AP Jia Xu is Hai. Hai becomes unstable. Again it is a negative indication that something will happen with a parent this year.
Thank you.

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: Gmuli on June 14, 2018, 09:41:40 AM

Will go with  I

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on June 14, 2018, 11:15:33 AM

too much wood element !!!

This Wood is related to career, pressure or power.

Fire is in Low level and related to parents, reputation or health.

The answer is : FATHER'S DEATH ..

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: Phoenix on June 15, 2018, 01:35:48 PM

I. Mother died

no resource in natal chart = low affinity with mother. with strong water in chart, chen-xu clash would damage Ding. Ding is in dead Qi phase during Yin LP.

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: Gmuli on June 15, 2018, 02:06:46 PM

I will change my answer to G. Went to Jail as it seems people are avoiding it...

Reasoning:
1.Squeezed by Officers on both sites suggest environment where he can't act freely, because of authority over him.
2.Expression in form of Metal will be very weak when it shows up, because of the Officers.
3. In this specific LP the Earth falls in Chen, and Chen has images of Tomb.

Its a gamble in my view, as we may need a few more images to be sure, also would be clearer if it was both 7k on both sites... But in my humble opinion even if he didn't, he might have depending on choices etc.

Title: Re: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" ☔☔☔
Post by: OlSpica on June 15, 2018, 08:22:01 PM

Hi, Everybody
I joined Miss A and chose   H 
DM's Farther is Hai. The sad event happened during Sub LP Yin,
Hai = Ren, and Ren is in a sickness stage (Bing) during Sub LP Yin
In AP Jia Xu: Jia = Hai, so it is time for Hai to be combined away by activated Yin
                       Chen - Xu clash ---> Tombs are open, Gui is out and Gui =Zi
                        Zi is Lu of Father; Ding of open Xu clashes Gui ---> Father passed away.

Title: QUIZ: SEQUEL TO "GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2)" – ☔ ANSWER ☔
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 16, 2018, 05:19:51 PM

Thank you all for participating! 🍀🍀
The answer is (H). Father died

Quote from: Miss A on June 13, 2018, 10:44:58 PM

Hi JLim. Thank you for nice quizzes.
I choose answer H.
If I am right, Hai is the farther. It is entombed in Chen and the tomb is not open which is not a good sign in terms of health/luck of a relative.

Yes, you are right!! 👏

Quote from: OlSpica on June 15, 2018, 08:22:01 PM

Hi, Everybody
I joined Miss A and chose   H 
DM's Farther is Hai. The sad event happened during Sub LP Yin,
Hai = Ren, and Ren is in a sickness stage (Bing) during Sub LP Yin

Yes, especially about the Sickness stage (Bing)!! 👏

Quote from: Tientai on June 14, 2018, 11:15:33 AM

Fire is in Low level and related to parents, reputation or health.
The answer is : FATHER'S DEATH ..

You answered correctly! 👏

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Phoenix on June 17, 2018, 12:39:56 PM

hi master and all,

if you please to discuss, there are things i don't understand yet...

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Actually the controlling work towards Chen is not so good.  But in LP Ji Mao (1995-2005), Ji combines with Jia, and more importantly Mao helps to control Chen completely.  He moved to higher positions in the national budget office.  He was married in 1986 with two children.  In 1996 he had a mistress, and another child from her. 

LP Geng Chen (2005-2015) was not good.  The interaction of Geng clashing Jia is against what the chart wants to use.  His company owned the bank a lot of money, and his career was unfavorably affected. 

Jia is strong. I thought before, clash from Geng is just a trigger to move Jia, not to disturb its work. Otherwise, combination by Ji would hold Jia for not working. Furthermore, Ji Mao harm Chen is a clear picture of other people (robwealth) disturb his work. How come it be the opposite? May you enlighten me, in what condition clash and combination is considered supportive or destructive?

In this kind of chart, mother is represented by what element? is it bing inside Yin?

thank you :)

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on June 21, 2018, 05:46:42 PM

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Hi @Phoenix , in Mangpai, each pillar is distinguished by the strength of Stem:
- LP Geng Chen: Geng is solid.  So, it's a problem for Jia.  If Geng was unstable, then it would work as a trigger for Jia.

LP Ji Mao: not every Rob Wealth is bad.  Ji combining with Jia does not overcome or damage Jia.  In this case, we see "Rob Wealth" as a partner, so a co-worker helped him to get a good advancement in his job.

Title: Re: QUIZ: GUESS THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROFESSION (2) ✌✌✌
Post by: Phoenix on June 28, 2018, 07:03:58 AM

thank you very much for your explaination, master Jlim  :)