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Title: Quiz 28-Younger brother makes divination for elder brother criminal case ..
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on July 22, 2018, 11:25:34 AM
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Tientai
Title: Re: Quiz 28-Younger brother makes divination for elder brother criminal case ..
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on July 25, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
there is not enough description for the case.  Since mother is in kowtow (kneeling down), I presume this is asking whether or not the younger brother will not be punished severely. 

Younger brother seems to be in a very serious trouble.  There is a one-time opportunity where somebody or a situation allows him to escape severe punishment, and this involves some money bribing.

1.  Fourth sibling line 丑 Chou Earth is very weak by Month and Day, because the Month and Day are both Mao Wood.  Younger brother is in serious trouble.
2.  丑 Chou Earth changes to 午Wu Fire, and Wu in turn produces Chou.  This is a good sign
3.  Sixth line 酉 You Metal moves secretly (hidden movement).  This represents a beneficial person or a situation.
4.  You Metal that moves secretly can overcome Second line Yin Tiger, because Metal overcomes Wood.  Second line is legal case or disaster, so it's good to be overcome
5.  This is a one-time opportunity, just don't let it slip away
6.  Back to 2: 丑 Chou changes to 午 Wu, and then Wu clashes First line Zi.  Zi comes together with Serpent.  The overall meaning of the whole thing: the querent or their mother loses money to save the brother. 
Title: Re: Quiz 28-Younger brother makes divination for elder brother criminal case ..
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on August 02, 2018, 09:36:43 AM
EXPLANATION
弟占兄已得重罪,母叩問能求否?

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兄弟爻為用神,丑土兄動,日月剋之,明現大罪難脫,

Brothers line taken as Yongshen , this line Chou earth is moving, Month and day is restrain it, is evident now a big crime is difficult to escape.

幸兄爻丑土,化午火父母回頭相生,父母生兄,神告顯然,宜速行之,後果蒙免死。

luckily Brothers is a moving line, change to Parents Wu fire that turn back to engender each other [Xiang ].Parents give birth [Sheng ] to Brothers, God [Shen Spirit ] said clearly, should move quickly , the consequences will be extremely avoided.

*** Thanks to Master @JLim for his careful assessment of the scant information of the ancient text ...
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Tientai
Title: Re: Quiz 28-Younger brother makes divination for elder brother criminal case ..
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on August 03, 2018, 03:19:32 AM
This case is just one example where 六害 Liu Hai or Six Harms are not applicable in Liu Yao.  If Liu Hai was applicable, then Chou changing into Wu would instead have a harmful implication for the elder brother. Especially since Wu is well supported, by Month and Day!

But I definitely use Liu Hai in Bazi (Four Pillars)