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General discussions => FREE Life Reading Request => Topic started by: Dao on August 24, 2019, 11:11:48 AM
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(vocabulary question: how do you call in Chinese the period before first LP?)
小運 Xiao Yun or Small Pillar, but we don't use it in Mangpai.
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DM combines with Bing Zi, but Zi clashes Wu.
Bing produces Ji to produce DM. But look at this Ji = Wu and Wu is clashed by Zi.
She may not have a happy parental home.
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Hi Dao,
Without looking at astrology: the children are always entrusted to the mother, unless she is unable to take care or represents a danger to the child. Or unless the judge believe so
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In this situation, should we also look at the parent's chart as well? I'm not good at CM but it seems like certain information is missing?
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We can also see some information about parents from the child's chart.
This child (Daymaster) will tend to be closer to the father rather than mother.
Natal chart:
1 Jia is mother, while Bing/Si is father.
2 Xin is conjoined with Ji Chou Pillar. Ji Stem combines with Jia, but Chou harms Wu.
3 Jia combines with Ji. Ji in the Hour Pillar means a distant place. Jia combining with Ji means that mother goes to a distant place for work/business.
4 Chou harming Wu means DM "rejects" mother.
5 Xin combines with both Bing and Si. These two combinations are work processes. The father star perform work in the chart. Father is more beneficial for her development.
Annual Pillar:
6 2020 Geng Zi: Xin DM is conjoined with Geng Zi. Geng clashes Jia, while Zi clashes Wu. This year DM will be distant with the mother.
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Hi @JLim & @Dao , not too crazy about posting function using the phone in thus forum. However, the topics in this site r interesting.
If I remember puppylove comments correct, he stated that u need 2 confirmations in the chart to confirm the situation. Honesty, I have on clue how to read relationship from a chart. However, using only self chart can only provide small information about the parent's relationship to the child. The child might perfer the father, yet the parents chart may provide their perspective of their relationship to the child.
We assume the father care more for the child. However, can the father provide enough resources? The child at this age probably wants love over things. How long before the child desires out grow the father's ability to provide the basic needs & beyond.
On the mother side, the ma may provide more resources than the dad. Yet, how much care & love may the ma provide to the child? She might have the wealth to hire someone to take of the child but what if the child desire love?
The child's chart alone might not provide enough answers to these two questions. I guess I can't hire my comments?
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My guess, which could be wrong. Just to note, I'm not any good at looking into relationship.
HS
Father: DM Jia will take care of RW Yi as sister or daughter.
Mother: DM Geng will treat DR Yi as thought her daughter as her mother.
EB
Xu may bully Hai & Yin may bully Mao. Either way, their daughter will always be blame for their own misfortunes / actions.
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So this is a live case. Honesty, it sounds like u favor the mother over the father in u writing. However, it seems like the chart is stronger on the father side than the mother. Unfortunate, using my limited CM understanding, it seems the father LP isn't as great comparing to the mother. That stated, doesn't mean his next LP won't make it better.
A young child needs to be brought up within a good loving family. That's not going to happen in this situation. Thus, the next step might be to think which parent may offer the best foundation to the child's ethic standards. That standard doesn't have to be wealth or resources, there things in life that must be given or taught by someone that is consistently available to the child. Which parent can offer the greatest amount of time to the child, dad or ma? Ask that question to the parents
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Hi all readers of this topic,
H D M Y
Ji Xin Bing Jia
Chou Si Zi Wu
If we used the traditional Bazi's parent star assignment:
- Jia is Wealth --> so Jia is father
- Ji is Indirect Seal (Resource) --> so Ji is mother
Jia combines with Jia --> father combines with mother
Although there is a clash between Month and Year Pillar, there is a combination between father and mother star. The relationship better her father and mother would be better, would it not? But the fact is both separated when the child was only a toddler.
Please refer to Reply #9 (http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=796.msg5324#msg5324) how I analyze the father and mother from the child's birth chart using the Mangpai style.
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@JLim , can I make this assumption: using what you wrote before about Jia = Mother & Bing = Father.
In the Natal Chart, the father, Bing is strong has EB and rooted in SI & WU. Jia, the mother, is weak & not rooted. Thus, Bing takes command of the chart & the daughter favors the father over the mother?
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I was hopping @JLim could make a comment because I noticed the wealth element in the child chart grows stronger in her next LP. If what I stated in the previous is true, then the mother & daughter relationship will get better.
At that time, the daughter will properly be looking for a parent that has wealth / resources to grow. This is just a guess.
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@JLim , can I make this assumption: using what you wrote before about Jia = Mother & Bing = Father.
In the Natal Chart, the father, Bing is strong has EB and rooted in SI & WU. Jia, the mother, is weak & not rooted. Thus, Bing takes command of the chart & the daughter favors the father over the mother?
I agree, but that talks more about the capability of the father and mother. As to the relationship with the parent or who is more beneficial for the child, please refer to my Reply #9.
...I noticed the wealth element in the child chart grows stronger in her next LP. If what I stated in the previous is true, then the mother & daughter relationship will get better.
I'm afraid don't agree with this one. LP Yi Hai: Hai clashes Si, where in the chart Si performs two work processes in the chart: Xin-Si combination and Si-Chou combination. Hai is not really desired by the chart owner. Hai <=> Jia (swaps image with Jia). So Hai is actually the mother herself.
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About the assignment of the parent star: I skip the explanations of assigning the parent stars in Mangpai, but the details are explained and discussed through cases in the Mangpai Foundation course.
It is not true, however, that the Wealth Star is not father in Mangpai. Using the proper procedure, we may eventually assign Wealth Star as father. Mangpai's method is more complex and flexible, I would say. After all, Bazi has only so many characters in the chart.
Similarly mother. Indirect Seal (Resource) can be mother too, but not always.
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Wow, this discussion is going way beyond my basic understanding.
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