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Title: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 13, 2020, 07:43:51 AM
What will be the factors in female chart that will make life difficult for husband. The word jinx is sensitive and will put people on defensive mode so I replaced it with difficult.
Please share your view.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 13, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Agreed, jinx may encompasss intention to harm.   The word "difficult" might not have any negative meaning.  I recommend using the word "hardship" or "not compatible".  What do you think?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Tientai ✝️ on May 13, 2020, 05:24:42 PM
I think is ok with " jinx "

bring bad luck to...
cast an evil spell on..

Example:
"The question of whether the sequels were jinxed is one that the cast and crew are reluctant to acknowledge, but one which has crossed their minds."

Synonyms:
curse
cast a spell on
put the evil eye on
hex

....
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 13, 2020, 06:14:09 PM
How about the other current topic Wife Prosper Husband chart (http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=989.msg7269;topicseen#msg7269), nobody else is interested in giving a comment about that lady?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 17, 2020, 05:11:37 AM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 17, 2020, 02:35:39 PM
Based on the chart plot, it's right at the border line.  bazi-calculator.com does indicate that it's to be noted so, because the time is marked in orange color. So it can be Yi Chou hour, or Bing Yin hour. 

With the Bing Yin hour, it's 杀印相生, Officer and Seal are in mutual production, which is a better structure. 

With the Yi Chou hour, all her Stems are all Officers.  They turn very bad because they attack DM directly.  Chou also clashes the Spouse Palace.  Clashes can be good and bad, and this particular one would be a bad clash.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 17, 2020, 03:43:21 PM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Phoenix on May 17, 2020, 05:13:38 PM
What will be the factors in female chart that will make life difficult for husband.

one of some scenarios :  the woman has strong output star that has nothing to do except attacking officer star. the condition is worse if there is no element which supports the officer star.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 18, 2020, 02:56:12 AM
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Post by: tyc on May 18, 2020, 08:29:41 PM
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Post by: NewMan on May 19, 2020, 07:57:06 AM
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Post by: tyc on May 19, 2020, 04:04:43 PM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 21, 2020, 08:43:42 PM
tyc, nice analysis!
Still, I would like to see a chart where the female chart show / explain how she jinx her husband. Thanks for reading
(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2020/05/21/image.png) (http://fivearts.org/fileserver/image/WROk)

Luck Pillars:
(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2020/05/21/image0112928379b84282.png)
copied from: bazi-calculator.com

Katie Couric, famous female news anchor from the US.  Married her first husband in 1989.  He suffered from colon cancer in 1997 and died in 1998.  He was only 42 years old.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Couric.PNG)

tyc, good analysis on the earlier chart!  Newman, did she marry young?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 21, 2020, 09:51:48 PM
Jlim, I was just guessing on the previous chart.  Hopefully, someone else may do the needful and provide further analysis.

This chart jlim just provided, I'm completely lost ???.  Do we assume DR is her husband?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Chary on May 22, 2020, 12:08:57 PM
Zi probably is spouse star, Shen-mao anhe enter tomb, zi-chou (year) combined
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 22, 2020, 02:00:10 PM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 22, 2020, 04:51:12 PM
Katie Couric's marriage in 1989 Ji Si:
- Mao and Si: Sha and Yin producing each other
- Ji is Fu  Yin of her DM
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 22, 2020, 06:07:55 PM
So marriage doesn't require root stars to protrude to HS.  Ok, thanks everyone.

However, what cause the death of her husband?  Is it FuYin or earth closing off Zi star (maybe both)?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 22, 2020, 09:27:53 PM
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Post by: NewMan on May 22, 2020, 09:31:39 PM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 23, 2020, 02:58:18 PM
However, what cause the death of her husband?  Is it FuYin or earth closing off Zi star (maybe both)?
- In the natal chart, Zi punishes Mao, and Shen has a Jue (severe) relation with Mao (the latter was identified by Newman too).
- LP Bing Shen came, "time" for the Jue relation to occur.  And Zi water grew stronger in LP Shen, whcih enabled it to break (punish) Mao.
- Her husband suffered the devastating illness as soon as she changed LP to Bing Shen.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 24, 2020, 04:00:30 AM
However, what cause the death of her husband?  Is it FuYin or earth closing off Zi star (maybe both)?
- In the natal chart, Zi punishes Mao, and Shen has a Jue (severe) relation with Mao (the latter was identified by Newman too).
- LP Bing Shen came, "time" for the Jue relation to occur.  And Zi water grew stronger in LP Shen, whcih enabled it to break (punish) Mao.
- Her husband suffered the devastating illness as soon as she changed LP to Bing Shen.

Thanks for the detail explanation.  In this situation, may I conclude the cause of the illness (Jinx) is not the star but the palace (where Mao resides) or when star EB element attacks the palace EB element?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 24, 2020, 08:34:25 AM
Both spouse palace and spouse star must be assessed.  In this chart, the spouse star and palace happen to be the same.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 24, 2020, 04:04:56 PM
Thank you for your respond.  My last question is: I'm not sure what the meaning of "Jue" (Mao & Shen relationship).  In other words, can you elaborate or provide some clarification on this thought? 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 25, 2020, 08:14:32 AM
Hi tyc, I think @NewMan  can explain because he also mentioned it.  :)
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 25, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Thank you Jim.  I'll just wait for his respond.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 26, 2020, 02:43:24 AM
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Post by: NewMan on May 26, 2020, 03:02:39 AM
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Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 26, 2020, 12:31:17 PM
What you wrote about Jue is quite good, NewMan  :)
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: tyc on May 26, 2020, 03:36:58 PM
Thanks Newman  for sharing
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Rapanui on May 26, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
I am curious  ;D
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Not much is written about (jue) and I don't have jlim's course material :)
Zi si
Hai wu
You yin
Shen mao
These are the jue pairs. It related to bloody injuries. As to how to used it will have to let JLim reveal abit.
In traditional BaZi there is Symbolic Star Jie Sha (Robbery Star) which based on 10 Stage Of Qi - Jue.
It is derived from Day EB and main EB of triangle this EB.
 8)
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: NewMan on May 27, 2020, 12:51:50 AM
Thank you Rapanul.
So MP cloaked it with a fancy name!  😁
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on May 27, 2020, 08:27:06 AM
I did study Shen Sha too, and yes the connection to Jie Sha that RapaNui discovered is interesting.  With this Shen Sha, EB Mao has Jie Sha in Shen.  And EB Shen has Jie Sha in Si.  EB = Earthly Branch.

In Mangpai, it works differently.  Mao has Jue in Shen, and Shen has Jue in Mao. It's vice versa.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Rapanui on May 27, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
In Mangpai, it works differently.  Mao has Jue in Shen, and Shen has Jue in Mao. It's vice versa.
This is interesting. We have replacement yin/yang of the element:
Main Qi in Mao is yin Wood - for yang Wood 10 Stage of Qi (clockwise) is in Shen.
Main Qi in Shen is yang Metal - for yin Metal 10 Stage of Qi (anti clockwise) is in Mao.
 8)
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Gilyotina on July 27, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
Hi! What do you think, the chart below is jinx husband to? https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&y=1991&m=3&d=25&h=14%3A20&g=6&l=76&s=1

Thanks
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on July 27, 2020, 02:50:24 PM
No, Mao-Wei combination encloses the Spouse Palace.  Xin as Spouse Star is not damaged either.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Gilyotina on July 27, 2020, 03:19:59 PM
No, Mao-Wei combination encloses the Spouse Palace.  Xin as Spouse Star is not damaged either.

Thanks a lot, JLim ))) I thought that Xin is weak (Wei is dry and doesn't generate qualitative Xin, Xin hasn't root
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on July 27, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
You are right.  Nevertheless, Xin is not weak because there are three Xin's in the natal chart.
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Gilyotina on July 28, 2020, 02:04:11 AM
You are right.  Nevertheless, Xin is not weak because there are three Xin's in the natal chart.

Jlim , thanks 😊 clear
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Gilyotina on July 28, 2020, 09:29:27 AM
You are right.  Nevertheless, Xin is not weak because there are three Xin's in the natal chart.

I have only one question: 3 Xin’s would mean 3 husbands? these Xin’s in this chart are of low quality - are men not good or can there be a career ? Wouldn’t high positions?
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: JLim (Darma W) on July 28, 2020, 11:27:53 AM
Jia DM that has three Xin's does not necessarily mean three husbands in her life.  We have to do more analysis on the natal chart, including the LP's, to analyze the number of marriages.  This topic is what can be discussed in the Mangpai Marriage Course. 

Just to provide you with a comparison, Margaret Thatcher (former UK PM) only married once, although she has many Spouse Stars: Husband element goes into tomb. Does it mean jail injury or death? (http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1042.msg7909#msg7909)
Title: Re: Female jinx husband
Post by: Gilyotina on July 28, 2020, 12:09:20 PM
Jia DM that has three Xin's does not necessarily mean three husbands in her life.  We have to do more analysis on the natal chart, including the LP's, to analyze the number of marriages.  This topic is what can be discussed in the Mangpai Marriage Course. 

Just to provide you with a comparison, Margaret Thatcher (former UK PM) only married once, although she has many Spouse Stars: Husband element goes into tomb. Does it mean jail injury or death? (http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1042.msg7909#msg7909)

It’s so interesting, i can’t stop... yes of course i need marriage Course... after basic  :-\