Aha, I get that. Gray... Well he has his own problems, though. : )

And the Tree... They didn't really understood it in my view. Not that we do, but at least we aren't piling on top of each sephira as much crap as we can think of.

Oh he didn't? He did write a lot about it. I don't understand much about all of this so can't see what of all his writings is useful or not.

Anyway, just this few pages is all I meant as needed for Tarot.
It just happens on other sources it won't work, this framework will work, but, as you will see its short. Few sentences for each card at most. The idea is to unfold the rest with meditation/experience.

So for divination, discard all other ideas/meanings/descriptions of the cards and work purely from the tree structure and minimal description of it (sefira, paths, worlds)? Could be interesting. Still leaves the court cards open though, although he does gives ideas how to use them in sangreal tarot book. Or maybe better just leave them out.

Gevurah - Jue Ming - Mars
Chesed - Liu Sha - Jupiter
Tifered - Fu Wei - Sun
Yan Nian - Yesod - Moon

Huo Hai - Hod - Mercury
Wu Gui  - Netzah - Venus

Binah - Saturn - Tian Yi
Chohma - Uranus - Shen Qi
Kether - Galactic Core - Heavens Heart/Middle

Chohma may not fit , perfectly in all cases, but the rest are perfect. Also good way to attribute the planets to the 8 mansions influences, as the other attributions I have seen, doesn't fit in how they are used in astrology in practice.

No Neptune and Pluto?

I'm reading a lot of Kabbalah, lately. I stopped for many years, long time ago, so didn't knew how much is in the open now. There is more. But it isn't really enough, from what I've seen so far.

In my humble view, reading more about the Tree may just be confusing. May be wiser to use it either with 8 mansions influences or with Planets.

I'm working on finding out the minimum sources that will be enough to learn the tree, but its going on slowly. Currently, would just recommend either learn the 8 mansions descriptions from JY and Kevin Chan and use that, or use the Planets descriptions in Astrology.

Hmm too bad, well I guess can still learn a bit about tree, bits and pieces.

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Quote from: throosden on January 06, 2024, 06:23:59 PM

Interesting, certainly not really a father figure, where to see this in chart?

I use ZWDS, not Bazi: https://zwds-calculator.com/chart2?month=9&day=6&year=1990&h=23&m=10&gender=Male&luck_year=2024&gmt=0&long=0

I look at the stars in your children and real estate boxes, which have the most influence over your psyche.

Do you have good life in Belgium or feel like moving out far away wherever you want?

Overall pretty satisfied with life in belgium. I'm mostly focused towards inwardly so don't really care to much about where I live 

The destructive tendency of pig hour makes it suitable for military life or thug life.

In rat hour, you are somewhat a 'softie' or a big kid. Do you think so?

More of a softie 

Something about your parents or lack of good examples in parental figure may affect your psyche greatly. You are less certain, less steady, less firm as an adult.

Interesting, certainly not really a father figure, where to see this in chart?

For relationships and other stuff - well, all falls in Chen, so she seems dedicated to something else. Can't imagine being able to keep dedicating all to it and make long term happy relationship. So possibly after Chen LP.

Health. Much improvement can happen once this year ends. As Mao is really getting both - distance from Chen, that she dedicated all to, so that hurts, also getting clashed by You. A little better this month.
Next year, Chen, so will have to play that one out in more points of view and possibly understand it better. As if one do understand stuff, its rarely a problem, in my view.  Who was on her side and who was not etc.

How could we go about understanding more about chen LP, if I may ask?

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