2 Bazi masters say different things due to use of birth and solar time

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Hi!

I consulted 2 masters before and both told me different beneficial elements. I'm trying to incorporate more of the beneficial elements in my life but I don't know who to listen to. Can someone perhaps ask me some questions so I can verify which timing is more suitable for me? I'll be really really really grateful. Thank you very much!

Master 1 who uses solar time says my beneficial elements are metal and water
Master 2 who uses birth time says my beneficial elements are water and wood

Female
24 August 1997
Birth time: 15:54
Solar time: 14:47
Singapore

[JLim (Darma W)]

bazi-calculator can nicely display two different charts for comparison:

https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=ripplewaves+-+birth+solar+time&y=1997&m=8&d=24&h=15%3A54&g=8&l=103.8198&lon=1.3521&s=1&city1=103.8198%7CSingapore&n2=ripplewaves+-+birth+clock+time&y2=1997&m2=8&d2=24&h2=15%3A54&g2=7&l2=105.5463&lon2=-5.0673&city2=105.5463%7CSukadana%2C+Ps.+Sukadana%2C+Kec.+Sukadana%2C+Kabupaten+Lampung+Timur%2C+Lampung%2C+Indonesia

First attempt is by asking a question about mother:
- Is your mother often far away, whether for business or work?
- Does your mother have her business or work?
- Is your mother socially very active?

[ripplewaves]

bazi-calculator can nicely display two different charts for comparison:

https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=ripplewaves+-+birth+solar+time&y=1997&m=8&d=24&h=15%3A54&g=8&l=103.8198&lon=1.3521&s=1&city1=103.8198%7CSingapore&n2=ripplewaves+-+birth+clock+time&y2=1997&m2=8&d2=24&h2=15%3A54&g2=7&l2=105.5463&lon2=-5.0673&city2=105.5463%7CSukadana%2C+Ps.+Sukadana%2C+Kec.+Sukadana%2C+Kabupaten+Lampung+Timur%2C+Lampung%2C+Indonesia

First attempt is by asking a question about mother:
- Is your mother often far away, whether for business or work?
- Does your mother have her business or work?
- Is your mother socially very active?

Thank you so much for your help


- my mother works in an office with typical work hours, so from 9am-5pm. She spends the rest of the time mostly at home with the family. So I guess that’s a no to your question.

- my mother is just a typical office worker

- I wouldn’t say she’s very socially active. She does like to go out for some events sometimes, but she really loves to spend time at home to watch dramas.

[JLim (Darma W)]

More questions:
- Did you get very good grades at school from 2016 to 2021?
- Any serious digestive or skin issues?

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More questions:
- Did you get very good grades at school from 2016 to 2021?
- Any serious digestive or skin issues?

- I did get good grades from 2016-2017 in university. But I dropped out at end of 2017 due to digestive and sleep issues.

- actually from 2018 till now I’m still going through q a serious health issue. After I dropped out I went to see some unorthodox energy Healer and I ended up worsening everything and now it’s mainly nervous system issues. Hence I’m mostly at home

[JLim (Darma W)]

Hi ripplewaves, in my conclusion it's Wei (Goat) hour. The adjustment to solar time is the correct one to use

[ripplewaves]

Hi ripplewaves, in my conclusion it's Wei (Goat) hour. The adjustment to solar time is the correct one to use

Thank you very much! Did you come to the conclusion because of my health issue? If the birth time is the accurate one, i wouldn’t be having health issues?

[JLim (Darma W)]

More questions:
- Did you get very good grades at school from 2016 to 2021?

And your answer is a strong negative, because you dropped out:

- I did get good grades from 2016-2017 in university. But I dropped out at end of 2017 due to digestive and sleep issues.

I asked about 2016-2021, because this is when sub-LP Xu is active.  With the Wei (Goat) hour, the Xu-Wei punishment occurs, which is not supportive for education.  The reason is Xu is Seal (Resource) Tomb, which governs - among other things - education.

With the Shen (Monkey) hour, you would do much better in education, certainly past an undergraduate degree, and with very good grades

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Thank you for explaining to me! This was very helpful!

[ripplewaves]

Hi can you help me with one last question please?

Saying we use solar time for my chart, I'm curious as to which element is my beneficial ones? Some people used to tell me it's metal and water, and some say it's water and wood. I would love to hear your input on this if possible. thank you very much

[JLim (Darma W)]

In Mangpai, we cannot really simply say that (for example) an element is good or bad.  We have to analyze each Branch or Stem LP (Luck Pillar).  And for which area of life.  For example, if we want to asses Metal, which Metal are we talking about: Shen, You, Geng or Xin? 

Let's say, you want to ask the effect on marriage. Shen Monkey is okay, but You Rooster is bad, because You Rooster harms the Spouse Palace Xu.

Even the above is a simplification, because we also need to see what Stem comes with Shen or You. 
And so on, and so on....

[ripplewaves]

In Mangpai, we cannot really simply say that (for example) an element is good or bad.  We have to analyze each Branch or Stem LP (Luck Pillar).  And for which area of life.  For example, if we want to asses Metal, which Metal are we talking about: Shen, You, Geng or Xin? 

Let's say, you want to ask the effect on marriage. Shen Monkey is okay, but You Rooster is bad, because You Rooster harms the Spouse Palace Xu.

Even the above is a simplification, because we also need to see what Stem comes with Shen or You. 
And so on, and so on....

I see! Thank you for explaining to me. Your answers have been very helpful to me. Thanks for being so kind