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Offline Sacrar

Hi all,

I wondered what the Yong Shen would be for questions where we need to know how or how much truth (or falsehood) there is in theories/affirmations/hypotheses...

In questions such as:

Is such a person right?
Is such an assertion/hypothesis correct?
Is such knowledge correct / accurate / true / truthful?
Are such an author's statements correct?

Example:
- Is the theory that the universe is a hologram true?
- are the prophecies of nostradamus true?
- Is this IMF forecast of the development of the world economy for this year true?

Perhaps it would be the line of Officer (authority), perhaps Offspring (intelligence) or perhaps Parent (knowledge) and look into the prosperity of the line to see how much truth or certainty the statement/assertion/hypothesis has. Maybe also if it is a six combination ("Yes") or a six clash ("not")

what do you think?
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Re: Yong shen for questions on validity of claims or statements
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 11:24:22 PM »
Everything in this world is variable and subjected to changes ...
Theories are true for today but some time after they frail and something different being discovered.!!
So on asking .. which answer could be true  ?

If you ask :
Is such a person right?

This is very General question, otherwise is judged to your own criteria about who is "The right person"
Answer again is obscure and full of complexity ...!!

Offline Sacrar

Re: Yong shen for questions on validity of claims or statements
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2020, 01:02:10 AM »

If you ask :
Is such a person right?

This is very General question, otherwise is judged to your own criteria about who is "The right person"
Answer again is obscure and full of complexity ...!!

Maybe i expressed himself wrong, I mean: What this person / author affirms / declares is correct?  It is true?

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Re: Yong shen for questions on validity of claims or statements
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2020, 02:47:42 AM »
An real example to illustrate the point.

I asked: Is the theory of reincarnation true?


https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/45,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,2,2020-05-08,01:46

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Re: Yong shen for questions on validity of claims or statements
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2020, 07:51:29 AM »
An real example to illustrate the point.

I asked: Is the theory of reincarnation true?


https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/45,1,0,0,0,0,0,7,2,2020-05-08,01:46

Hehe, fair enough, lets give it a try.

Theory - knowledge - resource. That would be Wei.
First thing is that Wei seems to be storage/tomb of wood/asset.

So we have a conflict here, Officer(something serious, responsible, restricting) being clashed by child(something much less serious, somewhat free and without worry).

Lets give some ideas to what that may mean.
The Fire is in the month - suggesting established structure, something somewhat there already and outside influence to the question.
Yet the position of the person asking seems to fall in alignment with that.

Depending on our point of view, that can be 2 different ideas.
One would be that reincarnation is real, but its much less serious, restricting and much more connected to something deep within(Water) then to something that can easily be seen from outside(Fire).
That creates the problem of Si<>Hai clash.
That would be the case if the person asking would think it was something serious, responsible and somewhat like a restricting influence.

The other way to look at it, would be Si as the current structure in most of the world not accepting reincarnation. Still parent/resource as knowledge and the theory of how it works, yet this time clashing it with Child suggest that that is where the conflict happens/is.

And we can see Resource/Parent on 2 lines. I work in very different way with choosing the Focus when there are 2 lines, so don't mind if there seems to be somewhat different approach then usual.

So we have 2 ways to view reincarnation. One is the extremly materialistic one on line 1. That one is usually/often the idea that reincarnation is some sort of judgment system - you do something wrong  and you are reborn as a type of animal people wouldn't enjoy.
Very materialistic and makes sense to be on line 1.
With time we have the idea that won't really stay long. So the person asking will probably move from that idea to the idea of freedom there(Zi Child), but since Zi is in harm with Wei, that freedom will also push back the previous idea of restricting reincarnation.
For all that to work, I'm assuming the position it is asked in, only the person asking would know in practice.

Yet during all that, there is another Wei Resource. That one is on line 6, meaning somewhat unaffected by the rest of the question. That isn't changing, its strong and its much more connected to Heaven. And that may be the other part of the Focus we ask about that part seems very real(as it also combines with the Day while strong from the Month).

Summary. Only the person asking would know from what point of view they ask it. But if I have to guess, I would say 2 representations of reincarnation. One very materialistic that will fall apart in their life. And one that is beyond all that that will stay. There seems to be all hints one may need that the higher one is true, while the lower one isn't, as well.