Qi Gong for Helth and Imunity

[DiegoFS]

Tientai and other companions of the Forum: for the moment I will leave you these links that will connect you to the most interesting videos that I found:

Master Gu:


Master Damo Mitchell:



Master Mantak Chia:




Master Mark Rasmus:


Master Zhixing Wang:



Master Shi Heng Yi:

[Tientai ✝️]

...... I remember that around the year 2003, I was always filled with doubts and questions, especially because at the beginning you make mistakes and it is logical to assume that you walk on uncertain roads, only with time you acquire security and self-confidence. Sometimes when you make a mistake you start to value these techniques more, naturally you have to get up again.

Dear @DiegoFS ..
Thanks for your extended quoting concepts over this subject .. !!
One remark : what you mean with your above notice ?... I think is a typo error ..!!
I marked with red what isn't fitting well .
Thanks anyway

[DiegoFS]

Hello Tientai, I think I should start to seriously study English grammar, the truth is that my English is very poor and sometimes I do not coordinate the sentences with the correct sense, maybe some words do not have the purpose of my ideas, I apologize for that.

I will try to reorganize the idea expressed: when one begins to walk the Path of the Tao, you begin to change the Rules of the Game to your own Qi and in this sense it is as if the organism tries to reject the new guidelines and therefore mistakes are made (a times without being on purpose). I think that is the reason that in the Monasteries the novices withdraw more easily because they assume that they are not able to continue. Whoever wants to become a Lay Monk (who lives in a normal city and interacts with the other people in society), encounters this same problem. Only until you balance your own Qi can you truly achieve stability in this inner work.

I will try to express this idea with examples from everyday life:

A person who intends to dedicate himself to being a Marathon athlete will fail in his first attempts because his body is not used to running long distances; at the beginning you will only run 500 or a thousand meters and will have to stop, sit down, rest, to be able to continue. Only with the passage of months or one or two years of hard work and correct training techniques will you be able to run a full Marathon in decent form. Something similar happens with Qi Gong.

Let's look at another example, a baby who is learning to walk will need his mother or father to hold his hands at first, and from time to time he will fall to the ground, because he is just trying to walk, alone and by dint of effort and repeating the task, he will be able to walk. It will take weeks and months to achieve this. Something similar happens with the Internal Alchemy.

Another example: a person who is learning to cook, surely at first his food will burn, it will be salty or bad taste. Only with repetition and by using a trial and error model, you will achieve that your food is well prepared and tastes good. With Tai Chi Chuan the same thing happens.

The same happens with that person who is learning to drive a vehicle, at first they must go to a Driving Academy and receive classes and take a Guide by their side so as not to crash the vehicle. At first you will be clumsy to drive, but little by little you will get it right. Something similar happens in the Internal Martial Arts.

I believe that to achieve the Tao, especially in the beginning you must have a lot of Resilience to achieve goals.

In essence, Qi Gong, Internal Alchemy, Tai Chi Chuan, Bagua Zhang ... have the same purpose, regardless of the School or Technique you learn, they all have a common denominator redirecting the Qi. Therefore, it seems wrong to me that many practitioners of these Philosophical Models argue among themselves, each one believes that he is the best or does it better than his “rivals”. As long as the Goal is the same, everyone will be right.

Something I wanted to add: in Antiquity, many civilizations of the Ancient World handled these Tao techniques, each one according to their culture: the Incas in Peru, the Chibchas in my country, the Aztecs and Mayans in Central America, the Red Skin Indians in North America. The Etruscans, Greeks, Normans in Europe. The Egyptians, Chaldeans, Persians, in the near East, and a little further west did the Hindus and Tibetans. The Tao had many different names and models in the ancient world. What happens is that in Imperial China these techniques were taken to a very sophisticated level, I think that by race Asians have traditionally been very good observers of nature and very perfectionists when doing things. That is why the Tao is like the University of the Spiritual part, because the Techniques are very refined.
But in general, these techniques in ancient times were globalized.

Tientai, I hope you detail the Videos I sent you, while I look for more information.

Regarding the Covid, another piece of news appeared: in Malaysia and the Philippines (and neighboring countries), the D614G strain (seems to be a "sister" of the one that is circulating in Europe and the United Kingdom) is 10 times faster in transmission than the Traditional coronavirus.

[DiegoFS]

To Tien Tai and interested colleagues and based on this topic I will leave the name of two Reference Books:

THE INNER STRUCTURE of TAI CHI. Mantak Chia and Juan Li
IRON SHIRT CHI KUNG I. Mantak and Maneewan Chia.

They can be downloaded for free in pdf (I believe that the other Books of this Master Mantak Chia can also be downloaded for free). In them there is enough information about it and they are well explained.

The Damo Mitchell Books would have to be paid for in dollars, but in my view it is not mandatory to have them unless you want to become Advanced Masters of the Tao.

A hug for everyone.

[Tientai ✝️]

Dear @DiegoFS  ..hi
I am much familiar with master Yang ch'I Ming's writings on Qi gong ..
He is the only one that reveal the source of his writings in Chinese quotations and translations ..!!
Perhaps you know this name  ..
What is your opinion ?
Thanks ..

[ren]

Tientai,

Are you referring to  Dr. Yang Jwing Ming?

ren

[DiegoFS]

Well, Tientai the truth is to the Master Yang Ch'i Ming I haven´t had it in my references, but according to what you say that he makes old bibliographic reviews in his writings, that implies that he is a very serious and reliable researcher.

Normally I have taken translations in my language (Spanish), with the idea of simplifying. Translating from another language takes a long time (although I sometimes take quotes, methods, key phrases and the like). However, I thank you for the information and I will try to review texts from Master Yang Ch'I Ming, in my spare time (or Yang Jwing Ming as Ren quotes).

To all these Masters, I have a Deep Veneration and Respect, regardless of the School where they are or lead. All these Taoist Masters (despite their invisible work and little recognized by the media), are an Axis and a Support of the Energy of the Planet, without these characters and their influence, this Modern Civilization would have already collapsed years ago.

It is curious that the Ecological and Environmental Protection Groups of the current World, assume that Global Warming, the Thawing of the Arctic and Antarctic Pole and the generation of this Pandemic and the next Pandemics that will be worse and more dramatic (as just recognize today, Mark Ryan, Head of the Emergency Program of the World Health Organization), the Burning of Forests and Jungle like the Amazon, are all related to Pollution from Factories and Heavy Industry. In reality, the Increase in Planetary Temperature is only partially related to Environmental Pollution, the REAL REASON for the collapse of the Environment is in a very high and critical percentage, due to the distancing of Humanity (99% I would say) of the Tao.

Humanity does not want to understand that Planet Earth is a Living Being and that between us Human Beings and Planet Earth we have a Spiritual Umbilical Cord that deeply unites us. And that as the Human Race moves further away from the Balance of the Tao, the planet not only suffers its direct consequences, but it "punishes" us in many ways. Suffice it to say that in about 25 years, all the volcanoes in the world will erupt at the same time (for this same reason) and the magnetic axis of the planet will turn violently 90 degrees, so that the Poles will be located on the Equatorial Line. and the tropics will remain where the current Poles are. It would even be interesting to ask our colleague Gilyotina who lives in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia, how the temperatures have been there lately, but I think that the polar cold is not as marked as before. In these coming years Siberia will become a Summer Zone like Miami (Florida, USA) or Rio de Janeiro (Brazil), in the end there will not be a single ice cube left.

By the year 2,050, each human being will be in their rightful place. But there is no doubt that the Mission of these Masters has an Invaluable Spiritual Qualification and much more in these times of chaos and uncertainty. Thanks for the information Tientai,…

[Gmuli]

I'm big fan of Mantak Chia <3
I do just want to mention that in his system, after the healing sounds, the base is the microcosmic orbit/heavenly circle.
Much of the advanced practices(fusion of the 5 elements, lesser and greater Kan and Li etc.) suggest we already have opened it and isn't suppose to be done without that step.

(at least that was how it was 15-20 years ago, I assume still is)

[Tientai ✝️]

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[Gmuli]

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[Gmuli]

While on the topic I would mention the form that most resonates with me. There are a few people that teach it, the story exists in all of the books about it I think, basically its the same lineage and more or less the same place it started from for us.
I like Michael Winns way of presenting it, we can see the whole form here(at the second part of the video)



This was for corrections in his initial videos, where each step is explained and detailed in more depth, but at the end the whole form can be seen.
Its good stuff, in my humble opinion and I've been doing it for many, many years now.

[Tientai ✝️]

I want to present on more significant Master on Chinese Internal Nei dan arts  ..
Is Master Lu Kuan Yu :
Charles Luk often used the title Upāsaka (居士), e.g. "Upāsaka Lu K'uan Yü" (陸寬昱居士), referring to his role as a devout lay follower of Buddhism. His first Buddhist teacher was a tulku of Esoteric Buddhism, the Khutuktu of Xikang. Later he became a disciple of Hsu Yun, the famous inheritor of all five houses of the Chán school in China.[1] Master Hsu Yun personally asked Charles Luk to translate key Chinese Buddhist texts into English, so that Western Buddhists could have access to authentic teachings to assist their practice. Upon his death in 1978, this task was taken on by his British disciple Richard Hunn (1949–2006), also known as Upasaka Wen Shu - who edited the 1988 Element edition of Charles Luk's book entitled Empty Cloud: The Autobiography of the Chinese Zen Master Xu Yun.
Some books from him :

    Ch'an and Zen Teachings, First Series (1960),
    Secrets of Chinese Meditation (1964)
    Ch'an and Zen Teachings, Second Series (1971),
    Practical Buddhism, Rider, (1971)
    Ch'an and Zen Teachings, Third Series (1973),
    Taoist Yoga : Alchemy And Immortality, (1973)
    Empty Cloud: the Autobiography of the Chinese Zen Master Xu Yun (1974)
    The Transmission of the Mind: Outside the Teaching (1974)
    Master Hsu Yun's Discourses and Dharma Words (1996)

.. What I have marked with red are best liked me ..!!
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[DiegoFS]

Yes, as for the quotes from Gmuli and Tientai, there are various Masters of the Tao, and all of them are valid, as long as one identifies with their philosophical schemes and their techniques, everything is fine. And as I mentioned, personally sometimes I mix several models and that does not lead to problems. The Tao has no side effects and is completely safe. Perhaps for a beginner if it is better to start with a single Technique and until you become more confident you can add other applications.

By the way, Master Mantak Chia is a world authority: he has been in practice for 70 years,  which is a privilege for him, not all Masters have a record like this. From my point of view, he was marked by Master Pan Yu. His explanations are simple and straightforward (perhaps they criticize him that he does not speak English well, but if so, his books can be read). His 11-year-old son Max became the youngest known Tao Instructor in this modern age.

One detail, if you watch the Mantak Chia videos, you can easily detail that you notice many fewer years than you actually have accumulated in your real calendar. That shows that he is a True Inner Alchemy Master. A person who has already accumulated at least 5 continuous years of practice begins to rejuvenate; if not, your internal work is limited or you are not doing it thoroughly.

Another advantage of Mantak Chia is that his wife Maneewan, originally from Hong Kong and a specialist in Taoist and Natural Nutrition, is an expert in Female Taoism. So the girls who want to learn and practice the Feminine Tao, in the writings of Mantak Chia, will also find a Woman Teacher providing her personal keys. That is a plus and added value.

Master Mantak Chia, assures that one must have studied about 20 Books to fully master the Tao, surely it is true, but it is also true that with 3 or 4 Books you can take these practices to a higher average level and that is more than Enough, unless you want to achieve Total Enlightenment and you want to become a Super Man Master or in a Super Female Master. But no matter how many books are studied, the most important thing is to PRACTICE every day.

And in general, spiritual advancement depends on many other variables, for example, proper nutrition, how you manage your own stress (meditation techniques), where you live (is not the same the person who lives in a building in New York, to another that lives close to the countryside and nature). It does not mean that a person who lives around the smog of cities and amidst the tumults of vehicles, cannot advance spiritually, but he will undoubtedly walk more slowly and will have to redouble his efforts; and to some extent, advancements that have been made in past lives help too.

Now, it should not be an excuse either, to suppose that if I live in a congested mega-city, I should just sit back and do nothing. It is better to do some Tao than to do absolutely nothing.

And finally, in the case of a beginner, to have a moderate protection against Coronavirus, you must accumulate between 3 to 6 months of practice. The younger you start the better. And the more years of practice you have, the more protected you will be against a Pandemic. A Taoist woman is usually more advanced than a man, but it is all about personal commitment and not gender.

To Gmuli and Tientai, thanks for the contributions, participation and comments. Hopefully the women of the Forum will also join and participate. We are missing the Yin Energy in these comments. Remember that the Tao is not a Machista Movement, on the contrary it is Universal. Yin and Yang play simultaneously to set up the Tai Chi.

[ren]

To All,

I would like to share some of my history and some qi gong sites I like.

Within our 5Arts community, we have a number of acupuncturist – included me. I have practiced qigong and martial arts for many years. The qigong sect I am associated with is associated  with one of the four sacred Buddhist mountains in China. My instructor also introduced me to Bazi. My current practice mainly includes the 8 brocade and the five element qigong forms. All the qigong forms I practice are mostly as I was taught.

I still practice acupuncture,  but I am currently working within the Public Health sector – assisting people in isolation or quarantine due to the covid-19 virus. Very humbling work.


This is a decent version of the 8 brocade exercise. I specifically appreciate how the presenter describes the exercise.

Kaizen Sensei learned that the Chinese art of Baduanjin Qigong helps build your immune system against the COVID-19 or coronavirus. There is no cure nor will this exercise prevent it. Your best bet is prevention. So, practice social distancing. Wash your hands. Avoid crowded areas. Stay home, eat healthy, get 7-8 hours of sleep daily, avoid stress (yes, I said that), pray, meditate and practice baduanjin! Actually, any reasonable exercise you can do a home will do the trick! Be well. Be safe.
I will add wear a face mask or face covering when out in public or when in close distance with other people.



I just found this today – I may not care for his exercises but I like what he is sharing.



I personal really like this guy's stuff – unfortunately I couldn't find his 5 element and 8 brocade stuff on youtube today. I have it on a usb drive. He is a practical, no fluff instructor.



This guy has a lot of stuff on youtube, he is also an acupuncturist. I am not a fan of the long hour long videos, but there is some interesting stuff. So if I see him, I may skip watch.



For you Gmuli and thanks...




Please lets keep this conversation going.

ren

[ren]

...Just to add,

This is Master Ralphael Rodriguez. He was part of the Young Lords back in the 70's in the South Bronx. He was also part of the early members of the world famous Lincoln Hospital Acupuncture program (with Dr Smith). He did not eventually license in acupuncture, but his qigong and street acupuncture!!!. He also trained in Tai Chi (etc) with Master Jou Tsung Hwa... many of us are familiar with his books.

I learned this form from Mr Rodriguez.



peacefully,

ren