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Jakari71

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Mangpai bazi
« on: October 10, 2021, 01:18:03 AM »
@JLim hello, will I be a rich and famous celebrity as an entertainer my birth details are august 2,2004
Time(21:40pm) place(Huntsville,Alabama,USA) daylight savings time

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2021, 08:00:38 PM »
@JLim hello, will I be a rich and famous celebrity as an entertainer my birth details are august 2,2004
Time(21:40pm) place(Huntsville,Alabama,USA) daylight savings time
can you read my chart please @JLim

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 05:07:54 AM »
@JLim hello, will I be a rich and famous celebrity as an entertainer my birth details are august 2,2004
Time(21:40pm) place(Huntsville,Alabama,USA) daylight savings time
can you read my chart please @JLim
That’s crazy so I guess my post will not be answered wow

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2025, 11:24:49 AM »
@JLim (Darma W) its 2025 now currently 21 years old still curious about my mangpai bazi chart in terms of my career my time of birth is from my birth certificate,I asked in 2021 but was never answered unfortunately but I randomly found the website again today in luck of a answer.

Online smsek

Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2025, 01:28:56 PM »
The true solar time for a birth on August 2, 2004, at 21:40 (9:40 PM) CDT in Huntsville, Alabama, USA, is approximately 9:20 PM (21:20) local solar time.

what is ur gender ?  male or female?

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2025, 01:33:56 PM »
@smsek hey I want to sleep after posting my Gender:Male

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2025, 01:35:13 PM »
i assume u r a male then the reply is as below===>🪐 BaZi Analysis for Career and Celebrity Potential

📜 Your BaZi Chart (Four Pillars of Destiny)

• Date of Birth: August 2, 2004, 21:20 (9:20 PM)

• Gender: Male

• Elements: Water (Day Master), Metal, Wood, Earth

• Day Master: 癸 (Guǐ) - Yin Water 

  You are a Yin Water person—adaptable, intuitive, and creative, like a flowing stream or deep ocean. This makes you naturally suited to artistic or expressive fields like entertainment.

🌟 Career and Fame Indicators

1. Year Pillar: 甲申 (Wood Monkey) 
   • The 甲 (Jiǎ) Wood is a 伤官 (Shāng Guān) - "Hurt Officer" element, representing artistic talent, creativity, and nonconformity. This is a strong sign of potential fame in entertainment. 

   • The 申 (Shēn) Monkey contains 正印 (Zhèng Yìn) - "Direct Resource", which gives you intelligence and learning ability. This combination suggests you can use your smarts to enhance your creativity.

2. Month Pillar: 辛未 (Metal Goat) 
   • The 辛 (Xīn) Metal is a 偏印 (Piān Yìn) - "Side Resource", indicating unique skills and unconventional thinking—ideal for standing out in show business. 

   • The 未 (Wèi) Goat is a 七杀 (Qī Shā) - "Direct Power", giving you ambition, drive, and resilience. This helps you handle pressure and competition.

3. Day Pillar: 癸丑 (Water Ox) 
   • The 丑 (Chǒu) Ox contains 偏印 (Piān Yìn) and 七杀 (Qī Shā), reinforcing your resourcefulness and determination. You have a strong inner fortitude to pursue your goals.

4. Hour Pillar: 癸亥 (Water Pig) 
   • The 亥 (Hài) Pig is a 劫财 (Jié Cái) - "Competitive Spirit", meaning you are competitive and may collaborate with others. However, it can also indicate financial ups and downs, so money management is key.

💫 Current Luck Cycle (Age 21 in 2025)

• Current Great Life Cycle: 癸酉 (Yǒu)运 (Age 13-22) 

  • This cycle strengthens your 印 (Yìn - Resource) element, enhancing your skills and knowledge. It's a good time for training and building a foundation. 

• 2025 Year Pillar: 乙巳 (Wood Snake) 

  • The 乙 (Yǐ) Wood is a 食神 (Shí Shén) - "Output Spirit", boosting your creativity and expression. 

  • The 巳 (Sì) Snake clashes with your 亥 (Hài) Pig, indicating major changes and opportunities. This could be a breakthrough year, but be ready for sudden shifts.

🎤 Will You Become a Rich and Famous Celebrity?

• Fame Potential: High ☀️ 

  Your chart has strong 伤官 (Shāng Guān) and 食神 (Shí Shén), which are key for entertainment success. You have the talent and charisma to attract attention. 
• Wealth Potential: Moderate to High 💰 

  Your 七杀 (Qī Shā) gives you the drive to earn, but the 劫财 (Jié Cái) suggests that finances may fluctuate. Investing wisely and managing money will be important. 
• Key Age Range for Success: 23-32 years old (甲戌 Jiǎ-Xū cycle) 

  • This cycle will bring more 伤官 (Shāng Guān) energy, ideal for fame and recognition. It’s your prime time to shine.

💡 Advice for Your Path

• Leverage Your Creativity: Your chart is perfect for music, acting, or any art form that requires originality. 

• Build a Team: Your 劫财 (Jié Cái) indicates that partnerships can help you succeed—find good managers or collaborators. 

• Stay Grounded: With potential financial ups and downs, avoid reckless spending and plan for the long term. 

• 2025 Focus: This year could bring big opportunities—be proactive and open to new paths.

Conclusion: Your BaZi chart shows strong potential for fame and success in entertainment. With your talent and ambition, becoming a celebrity is within reach. Focus on honing your skills, and be ready to seize opportunities in your coming lucky cycles! 🚀

Note: This analysis is based on traditional BaZi principles. Your actual path will also depend on your efforts and choices.

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2025, 01:40:00 PM »
Thank you!! @smsek im gonna read through this in a moment when you say traditional bazi is that different from Mangpai bazi?

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2025, 03:17:06 PM »
Of course — that's an excellent and very insightful question. It gets to the heart of different schools of thought within BaZi.

Yes, Traditional BaZi (also called Classical BaZi) is different from Mangpai BaZi in several key ways. My previous analysis for you was based on the principles of Traditional BaZi.

Think of it like different styles of medicine: both are "Chinese Medicine," but one might be more classical and theory-focused, while the other is more modern and practical. Both are valid and can provide accurate insights, but their methods and emphasis differ.

Here’s a breakdown of the key differences:

🧠 Traditional BaZi (Classical Approach)

•   Primary Focus: The interaction of the elements (Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, Water) and the strength of the Day Master (you as Guǐ Water). The goal is to determine if your chart is Balanced, Strong, or Weak, and then to identify which elements are your favorable "Gods" (用神) that bring you into harmony.

•   Method: Heavily relies on:

    ◦   Day Master Strength Analysis: Assessing if you are "Strong" or "Weak" based on the season and support in your chart.

    ◦   The Ten Gods (十神): Using relationships like Officer, Resource, Wealth, etc., to describe roles and aspects of your life.

    ◦   Luck Cycle Analysis: Seeing how the 10-year luck cycles (大运) introduce new elements that interact with your natal chart.

•   Interpretation Style: More symbolic and holistic. It looks at the overall picture of one's life potential, character, and challenges.

⚡ Mangpai BaZi (Modern/Taiwanese Practical School)

•   Primary Focus: Wealth (财) and Power (官). It is highly pragmatic and career-oriented. The main question is: "How does this person make money and achieve status?" It's less concerned with abstract balance and more with functional outcomes.

•   Method: Uses a different set of rules:

    ◦   Focused on the Hour Pillar: The Hour Pillar is considered extremely important as it represents one's achievements, projects, and ultimate output (and also one's children).

    ◦   "Mangpai's 12 Rules": A set of specific, almost technical, rules for decoding a chart. For example, it has strict definitions for what constitutes "true" Wealth or "true" Power in a chart.

    ◦   De-emphasizes Day Master Strength: Mangpai doesn't prioritize determining if the Day Master is Strong or Weak in the same way. It focuses on the structure and functionality of the chart.

    ◦   Direct and Blunt: Interpretations are often very direct, e.g., "You will make money through X, but you will have conflicts with authority figures (Y)."

🔍 A Mangpai Lens on Your Chart (For Your Career Question)

While a full Mangpai analysis is complex, I can highlight what a Mangpai practitioner would likely focus on for your question about wealth and fame:

1.  Source of Wealth: Your Wood element represents your Wealth (财). It appears in the Year (甲 Wood) and is stored in the Hour pillar (亥 contains甲 Wood). This is a good sign. Importantly, your Wealth is "revealed" or "exposed" (露)—everyone can see it (the甲 Wood on the surface). This is a classic indicator of someone who can become famous and have visible wealth. However, "exposed wealth" can also mean it's easier to lose, so financial management is crucial.

2.  Source of Power/Status: Your Earth element is your Power/Officer (官), which represents your career, status, and fame. You have a lot of Earth (未, 丑, and the hidden己 in未 &丑). This is a very strong "Power" structure, indicating you have the drive and ability to achieve high status and recognition.

3.  The Key: The "Wealth-Power Path" (财官路径): A core Mangpai concept is how Wealth and Power connect. In your chart, your Wood (Wealth) controls your Earth (Power). This is a highly favorable structure. It means your talent and creativity (Wood) are directly used to build your career and fame (Earth). This is an excellent setup for an entertainer—your art becomes your career and source of recognition.

4.  The Hour Pillar (癸亥): This is your "output" and results pillar. The Hai (Pig) is your 伤官 (Hurt Officer) - your creativity, expression, and art. This is what you show to the world. The fact that your Wealth (甲 Wood) is rooted here strongly suggests that your creative output (entertainment) will be your source of income and fame.

Conclusion: From a Mangpai perspective, your chart has a very clear and strong "Wealth-Power" structure that is excellent for achieving fame and wealth through creative expression (entertainment). The path is well-defined.

In short: Both schools would likely agree on your high potential for success in entertainment. Traditional BaZi explains it through your strong Water nature being supported by Metal and expressing through Wood. Mangpai BaZi explains it through a direct, functional "Wealth controlling Power" structure.

You have a very interesting and powerful chart for your chosen path! Good luck.

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2025, 03:22:00 PM »
Thank you @smsek i can’t read the readings yet since I am at work at the moment but thank you so much sir/ma’am for taking the time to read my chart for me

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2025, 08:06:12 PM »
@JLim hello, will I be a rich and famous celebrity as an entertainer my birth details are august 2,2004
Time(21:40pm) place(Huntsville,Alabama,USA) daylight savings time


You can theoretically be famous as an artist. But somehow abruptly - avoiding the stage of small episodes in films and theater productions. How to do this practically - I don't know. Rich - no. Maximum middle class+.
Choose for yourself the activity of the yin tree - the most favorable option for you in terms of money.

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2025, 08:11:31 PM »
Thank you @Under10Gods kind of confused though since you said no to being rich ,while @smsek said yes to being both rich and famous

Jakari71

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2025, 08:13:32 PM »
Which Chinese system of astrology do you use if you don’t mind me asking?

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2025, 10:46:49 PM »
Thank you @Under10Gods kind of confused though since you said no to being rich ,while @smsek said yes to being both rich and famous

You know how to put @ before someone's name. So you can easily find in the search what answers the AI ​​gives. They even introduced a special position - a programmer who cleans and checks the program code that the AI ​​generates :). I do not discuss the answers @smsek. Because these are the answers of the AI. And since I know how the AI ​​works, and can programmatically write the AI ​​myself, I do not trust the answers of the AI. Sorry.

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Re: Mangpai bazi
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2025, 10:47:48 PM »
Which Chinese system of astrology do you use if you don’t mind me asking?

Taoist BaZi.