Quiz 4 - A woman catching Pimples (pustule).[when is cured ?]

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... Dear Liu yao members
Try to evaluate your knowledge by deciphering on this Case ....
After some time I will give the answer from Wild Crane's Old man book ...

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 Answer of the Quiz ....


酉金子孙，虽则春令休囚，得日辰生之，二爻巳火动而克金，得未日冲动丑土，火动生土，土动生金，花虽密而无妨，
Offspring is in You metal (yao) ，and althouth in spring season is rest prisoned，when day Chen arrives will give Birth (to it)，2nd Yao Si fire move and subdue (restrain) metal (You)，today Wei clash (chong)and secretely move (just as impulse or urge) Chou earth (4th yao)，so earth by this move give Birth to  metal (6th yao)，although pimple blossom secretly will not harm。

彼曰：目下甚危。
One said : now there is danger.
余曰：不妨，今日未申时有救。
Yu said: there is no harm, today on Wei hour (3-5 pm) there is assistance (Medical )
果于申时得明医救治。
Indeed in hour (3-5 pm) getting medical treatment.
此何尝缓也？
When there is recuperation ?

[乾按] 暗动必旺相之静爻受日建相冲方动，休囚之爻无暗动也。
[Qian make a comment ] : Certainly the secret movement (of 4th Brother yao) flourish by the day that clash (chong) this calming yao just to bring it in action  (.. and produce 6th Shi / self offspring You metal yao. ), but now (6th yao ) is resting prisoned and don't take from secret moving (4th yao).
暗动之妙有喜忌，更宜细察。
Secret movement expected to be as fearful (Ji ) need experience to observe carefully.

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酉金子孙，虽则春令休囚，得日辰生之，二爻巳火动而克金，得未日冲动丑土，火动生土，土动生金，花虽密而无妨，
Offspring is in You metal (yao) ，and althouth in spring season is rest prisoned，when day Chen arrives will give Birth (to it)，2nd Yao Si fire move and subdue (restrain) metal (You)，today Wei clash (chong)and secretely move (just as impulse or urge) Chou earth (4th yao)，so earth by this move give Birth to  metal (6th yao)，although pimple blossom secretly will not harm。

彼曰：目下甚危。
One said : now there is danger.
余曰：不妨，今日未申时有救。
Yu said: there is no harm, today on Wei hour (3-5 pm) there is assistance (Medical )
果于申时得明医救治。
Indeed in hour (3-5 pm) getting medical treatment.
此何尝缓也？
When there is recuperation ?

[乾按] 暗动必旺相之静爻受日建相冲方动，休囚之爻无暗动也。
[Qian make a comment ] : Certainly the secret movement (of 4th Brother yao) flourish by the day that clash (chong) this calming yao just to bring it in action  (.. and produce 6th Shi / self offspring You metal yao. ), but now (6th yao ) is resting prisoned and don't take from secret moving (4th yao).
暗动之妙有喜忌，更宜细察。
Secret movement expected to be as fearful (Ji ) need experience to observe carefully.

what is the time of recovery finally ? I would said in either You time, or Chen brother time, as it is void, it won't be void in Chen (or Xu if using clash )

[duesouth]

Hi all,

FYI. My translation of the case study using the 1691AD version of Zengshan Buyi (ZSBY) (see ZSBY-6 pdf in https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1997.0):

[Ex.22-62. E/E to E/W]
卽如寅月乙未日。占女痘。得坤之師。
Example: Yin(t) month, Yi Wei day. Divining about daughter?s smallpox. Obtained Kun [E/E], then Officer [E/W].
子   酉金   丶丶世         
財   亥   丶丶         
兄   丑   丶丶         
鬼   卯   丶丶應         
父   巳火   ㄨ   兄弟   辰土   
兄   未   丶丶         

Kun as Earth [E/E]   Earth-Water Officer [E/W]
Son-Daughter   You metal   丶丶 Subject   Son-Daughter   You metal   丶丶
Wife-Wealth   Hai water   丶丶   Wife-Wealth   Hai water   丶丶
Brother-Sister   Chou earth   丶丶   Brother-Sister   Chou earth   丶丶
Officer-Ghost   Mao wood   丶丶 Object   Father-Mother   Wu(h) fire   丶丶
Father-Mother   Si fire   ㄨ   Brother-Sister   Chen earth   丶
Brother-Sister   Wei earth   丶丶   Officer-Ghost   Yin(t) wood   丶丶

酉金子孫。雖則春令休囚。得日辰生之。二爻巳火動而剋金。得未日沖動丑土。火動生土。土動生金。花雖密以全生。
You metal Son-Daughter. Yet in spring season, so Resting(s)-Trapped(s). [While] obtain day branch producing, 2nd line S? fire moving to counter metal. Obtain Wei day clash to move Chou earth. Moving fire will produce earth, moving earth will produce metal. [Smallpox] lesions although numerous, [person is] still full of life.

彼曰。目下甚危。余曰。不妨。今日未申時有救。
Person said: At present, very dangerous. I said: No harm. Today, Wei to Shen hour, will receive help.

果于申時。遇明醫救治。何當緩也。
Result: At Shen hour, met a brilliant doctor who provide critical care. How can [response] be slower?

Note: The last sentence above (slower) relates to the paragraph preceding the case study:
古以暗動。福來而不知。禍來而不覺。又曰。吉凶之力則半。遲速之應則緩。非此論也。何嘗不知不覺。報應也非緩也。
Ancients consider Secretly Moving as good-fortune coming without knowing it; misfortune coming without feeling it. Also said: Auspicious or inauspicious, strength is halved. Speed of response is slower. Wrong, this theory! How can we not know and not feel? Announced response is not slow.