Request for birth chart reading on children

[Icebluerose]

Hi knowledgeable members! Finally made an account on this forum after reading the old one and learning many new things.

Can I please request for a quick birth chart reading in relation to my potential children? I am trying to conceive and will undertake the necesary tests as I will be an older Mum.

My birth details are as follows:-

DOB: 15 February 1987
Time: 7.06 am
Place: Kuala Lumpur.

My husband's birth details are as follows:-
DOB: 7 January 1984
Time: 3.43 pm
Place: Petaling Jaya

Thanks in advance for sifu's kind attention 

[crossjoint]

hello, im new to this forum as well.

Current LP Bing Wu and Annual Year 2025 until 2027 your children element (fire) find strong root especially on 2025 and 2026.

So good luck trying, Your chance is good.

[smsek]

### **Consolidated Bazi Analysis for Childbearing** 
**Female:** 15 February 1987, 7:06 AM, Kuala Lumpur (乙木 Day Master) 
**Male:** 7 January 1984, 3:43 PM, Petaling Jaya (庚金 Day Master) 

#### **1. Female's Bazi and Childbearing Potential** 
- **Children Element:** **Fire (食神/伤官)** 
  - Present in **寅 (丙火) and Year Stem 丁火** 
  - **壬水 (Proper Seal) is weakened by 丁火合**, reducing resource support (body nourishment). 
  - **Current Luck Pillar 丙午:** 丙火冲壬水, further depleting her resource. 
  - **2025 (乙巳) + 丁午 Luck Pillar + 未 (Annual DEB)** → **巳午未 Fire Frame**, evaporating any remaining Water. 

🔸 **Effect:** While Fire is abundant (children element is strong), excessive Fire **could strain her body**, making conception and pregnancy more exhausting or difficult to sustain. 

#### **2. Male's Bazi and Childbearing Potential** 
- **Children Element:** **Fire (正官/七杀)** 
  - **Absent in his natal chart.** 
  - **亥子丑 Water Trine is present**, meaning whenever Water strengthens (via Luck Pillars or Annual Pillars), Fire (children element) gets weakened or extinguished. 

🔸 **Effect:** **Delays or challenges in fatherhood.** Strong Water influence suppresses Fire, making conception more difficult. He needs external Fire support (via Feng Shui, lifestyle changes, or luck cycles). 

#### **3. Timing Analysis for Conception** 
| Year | Element | Prediction |
|------|---------|------------|
| **2024 (甲辰)** | Wood/Earth | Neutral, Wood may exhaust Fire. |
| **2025 (乙巳)** | Wood/Fire | 🔥 Strong Fire, but female’s Water support is weak. Need extra care. |
| **2026 (丙午)** | Fire | 🔥🔥 Too much Fire, female's body may struggle with pregnancy. |
| **2027 (丁未)** | Earth/Fire | 🔥 Balanced Fire, **best for stable pregnancy.** |
| **2028 (戊申)** | Earth/Metal | ❌ Water starts increasing, suppressing Fire. |
| **2029 (己酉)** | Earth/Metal | ❌ Unfavorable, strong Metal reduces Fire. |
| **2030 (庚戌)** | Metal/Earth | ❌ Weak Fire, less ideal. |
| **2031 (辛亥)** | Metal/Water | ❌ Strong Water, worst for conception. |
| **2036 (丙辰)** | Fire | 🔥 Balanced Fire & Earth, **another good window.** |

🔹 **Best Years for Pregnancy:** **2027 (丁未) and 2036 (丙辰)** 
🔹 **Years to Avoid:** **2028-2031 (Water-heavy period will weaken Fire)** 

#### **4. Recommended Actions for Conception Success** 
✅ **For the Male:** 
- **Avoid Water-heavy years (2028-2031) as they suppress Fire (children element).** 
- **Boost Fire in daily life** (red colors, spicy foods, warmer environments). 

✅ **For the Female:** 
- **Since Water (her resource) is weak,** conception during extreme Fire years (2025-2026) **could be stressful for the body.** 
- **2027 (丁未) is an optimal balance of Fire and Earth, supporting pregnancy.** 
- **If struggling with conception, consider TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) to regulate Fire-Water balance.** 

---

### **Final Conclusion** 
1️⃣ **The Male's Water Trine (亥子丑) weakens his Fire (children star), making conception slightly harder in Water-heavy years.** 
2️⃣ **The Female’s Fire (children star) is strong, but her resource (Water) is being depleted by strong Fire periods.** 
3️⃣ **Best conception years:** **2027 (丁未) and 2036 (丙辰).** 
4️⃣ **Avoid Water-heavy years (2028-2031), as they further weaken Fire.** 
5️⃣ **Fire-heavy years (2025-2026) are possible, but may strain the female’s health.** 

Would you like an analysis of the child's potential Bazi based on the best conception year? 😊

[Icebluerose]

Hi sifu smsek,

First of all, thank you very much for your detailed analysis!! A lot of knowledge for me to learn.

Was rather hoping we can get pregnant this year or maybe next year but the Strong Fire part kinda scares me haha. I do have an underlying condition that makes pregnancy high risk....

I know 2027 appears to be the best but I would be 40 years old by then 

Oh yeah, would love to hear your sharing on the child's potential bazi based on conception year.

[smsek]

### **Refined Pregnancy Timing & Child’s Potential Bazi Analysis (2025 & Beyond)** 

let’s focus on **2025 and beyond** while considering your **high-risk pregnancy condition** and the effects of Fire-heavy years. 

---

## **1. Can You Get Pregnant in 2025?** 
🔸 **Challenges in 2025 (乙巳):** 
- **Strong Fire year (巳) + 丁午 Luck Pillar** → Excessive Fire, which could strain your body. 
- **巳 combines with 午 and 未 in 2025, forming a full Fire frame** → This could deplete your Water (壬), leading to exhaustion and higher pregnancy stress. 

🔹 **Recommendations if trying in 2025:** 
✔ **Medical supervision is essential** to monitor hydration, energy, and overall well-being. 
✔ **Support Water element through diet, environment, and lifestyle** (cooler foods, hydration, avoiding excessive heat exposure). 
✔ **Ideal conception months:** **February–April or September–November** (cooler seasons with more Water/Metal support). 

🔹 **Alternative Option – Waiting for 2027 (丁未)** 
- **Fire is still present but more balanced** due to Earth (未). 
- **Your Water won’t be as heavily depleted, making it a safer option for pregnancy.** 

🔹 **Key Takeaway:** 
- **2025 (乙巳) is possible but requires extra care due to Fire overload.** 
- **2027 (丁未) is more stable, but you’d be 40 years old.** 

---

## **2. Child’s Potential Bazi Based on 2025 Conception (2026 Birth Year – 丙午年)** 

🍼 **If conceived in 2025, the baby would be born in 2026 (丙午年)** 
- **Day Master (DM): Likely Fire or Earth, depending on birth month & time.** 
- **Super strong Fire (午) → Highly active, strong-willed child.** 
- **Potential personality:** 
  - Charismatic, energetic, natural leader. 
  - Needs emotional grounding to avoid impatience & impulsiveness. 
- **Health consideration:** 
  - Watch for overheating, dehydration. 
  - Ensure good emotional regulation & discipline from a young age. 

---

## **3. Final Advice for Pregnancy Plan** 
✔ **If conceiving in 2025 (for a 2026 birth), prepare for strong Fire dominance.** 
✔ **Monitor hydration, diet, and lifestyle to maintain energy balance.** 
✔ **Consider waiting for 2027 (丁未) if health concerns arise.** 
✔ **A strong Fire child will require emotional discipline and grounding.** 

Would you like a breakdown of the best months in 2025 for conception to align with a more balanced child's Bazi? 😊

[Icebluerose]

Really appreciate your pregnancy plan as well as the bazi study, smsek. May I know which school of bazi do you subscribe to please?

I guess at the end of the day, I am hoping to be able to conceive without resorting to IVF for a healthy baby. IVF will take a heavy toll on my body as well as my finances.

If you don't mind sharing the best months to conceive from this year till 2027? 

[nin99]

@smsek are you using chat ai?

[ren]

Hi Icebluerose,

May I ask what type of work do you do?
Is your husband from the same country as you or from a different town, locations?

Thanks

ren

[Icebluerose]

Hi ren, thanks for taking the time to reply.

I am a secretary. My husband was born in my country but he migrated when he was a baby and grew up overseas.

We were in a long distance relationship before getting married in 2023.

Appreciate any insight ren 

[smsek]

Really appreciate your pregnancy plan as well as the bazi study, smsek. May I know which school of bazi do you subscribe to please?===>u can PM to see my reply

I guess at the end of the day, I am hoping to be able to conceive without resorting to IVF for a healthy baby. IVF will take a heavy toll on my body as well as my finances.

If you don't mind sharing the best months to conceive from this year till 2027? 

===>### **Best Months to Conceive (2025–2027) for a Balanced Child's Bazi** 

Since you are considering **pregnancy between 2025 and 2027**, we need to identify months that provide a **better balance of elements** to: 
✅ Reduce excessive **Fire** (which may overstrain your body). 
✅ Ensure a child with a **more stable and harmonious Bazi chart**. 
✅ Support **your health during pregnancy**, given your high-risk condition. 

---

## **1. Best Conception Months for Each Year (2025–2027)** 

### **🔹 2025 (乙巳年) – Strong Fire Year**
💡 **Goal:** Avoid excessive Fire months (**April–August**). Choose months that introduce Water or Metal for balance. 

| Month | Bazi Element | Suitability |
|--------|-------------|------------|
| **Jan (己丑)** | Earth | **Neutral** (Earth is stable, not much Fire) |
| **Feb (庚寅)** | Metal/Wood | **Okay** (Metal helps, but Wood fuels Fire) |
| **March (辛卯)** | Metal/Wood | ❌ **Too much Wood → Fuels Fire** |
| **April (壬辰)** | Water/Earth | ✅ **Good (Water supports balance)** |
| **May (癸巳)** | Water/Fire | ❌ **Too much Fire (巳巳 self-clash)** |
| **June (甲午)** | Wood/Fire | ❌ **Extreme Fire (午午 self-clash)** |
| **July (乙未)** | Wood/Earth | ❌ **Fire still strong** |
| **Aug (丙申)** | Fire/Metal | ❌ **Fire-heavy month** |
| **Sep (丁酉)** | Fire/Metal | ✅ **Better (Metal controls Fire)** |
| **Oct (戊戌)** | Earth/Fire | ❌ **Fire-heavy month** |
| **Nov (己亥)** | Earth/Water | ✅ **Good (Water supports pregnancy)** |
| **Dec (庚子)** | Metal/Water | ✅ **Best month (Strong Water balance)** |

🔹 **Best Months to Conceive in 2025:** **April, September, November, December** 
🚫 **Worst Months:** **May–August (Too much Fire)** 

---

### **🔹 2026 (丙午年) – Extreme Fire Year**
💡 **Goal:** Strong Fire year → Avoid **summer months**. Favor **Water/Metal months** for balance. 

| Month | Bazi Element | Suitability |
|--------|-------------|------------|
| **Jan (辛丑)** | Metal/Earth | ✅ **Good (Metal helps control Fire)** |
| **Feb (壬寅)** | Water/Wood | ✅ **Good (Water supports health)** |
| **March (癸卯)** | Water/Wood | ❌ **Too much Wood, fuels Fire** |
| **April (甲辰)** | Wood/Earth | ❌ **Too much Wood** |
| **May (乙巳)** | Wood/Fire | ❌ **Too much Fire** |
| **June (丙午)** | Fire | ❌ **Super extreme Fire month** |
| **July (丁未)** | Fire/Earth | ❌ **Too much Fire** |
| **Aug (戊申)** | Earth/Metal | ✅ **Better (Metal helps control Fire)** |
| **Sep (己酉)** | Earth/Metal | ✅ **Good (Metal stabilizes Fire)** |
| **Oct (庚戌)** | Metal/Earth | ✅ **Good (Stable Earth with Metal control)** |
| **Nov (辛亥)** | Metal/Water | ✅ **Best month (Strong Water balance)** |
| **Dec (壬子)** | Water | ✅ **Best month (Maximum Water support)** |

🔹 **Best Months to Conceive in 2026:** **January, February, August, September, October, November, December** 
🚫 **Worst Months:** **March–July (Too much Fire, bad for pregnancy health)** 

---

### **🔹 2027 (丁未年) – Balanced Fire Year**
💡 **Goal:** Fire is still strong but more controlled than 2026. Look for **Metal and Water months** for best balance. 

| Month | Bazi Element | Suitability |
|--------|-------------|------------|
| **Jan (癸丑)** | Water/Earth | ✅ **Best (Water stabilizes Fire)** |
| **Feb (甲寅)** | Wood/Fire | ❌ **Too much Wood → Fire rises** |
| **March (乙卯)** | Wood | ❌ **Too much Wood → Fuels Fire** |
| **April (丙辰)** | Fire/Earth | ❌ **Too much Fire** |
| **May (丁巳)** | Fire | ❌ **Extreme Fire month** |
| **June (戊午)** | Fire | ❌ **Extreme Fire month** |
| **July (己未)** | Earth/Fire | ❌ **Fire-heavy month** |
| **Aug (庚申)** | Metal | ✅ **Good (Metal controls Fire)** |
| **Sep (辛酉)** | Metal | ✅ **Best month (Strongest Metal control)** |
| **Oct (壬戌)** | Water/Earth | ✅ **Good (Water helps balance)** |
| **Nov (癸亥)** | Water | ✅ **Best (Maximum Water support)** |
| **Dec (甲子)** | Water/Wood | ✅ **Best (Water helps balance)** |

🔹 **Best Months to Conceive in 2027:** **January, August, September, October, November, December** 
🚫 **Worst Months:** **March–July (Too much Fire, bad for pregnancy health)** 

---

## **4. Final Summary: Best Months to Conceive (2025–2027)** 
✅ **Best Conception Months:** 
✔ **2025:** April, September, November, December 
✔ **2026:** January, February, August, September, October, November, December 
✔ **2027:** January, August, September, October, November, December 

🚫 **Worst Conception Months (Too Much Fire = Health Risk & Child With Excessive Fire Bazi)** 
❌ **2025:** May, June, July, August 
❌ **2026:** March, April, May, June, July 
❌ **2027:** March, April, May, June, July 

---

## **5. Final Advice Based on Your Health Condition**
- **If you must conceive in 2025, choose later months (November–December) for best balance.** 
- **If you can wait until 2026, aim for early-year conception (January–February) to avoid excessive Fire.** 
- **2027 is more stable, with the best conception months being August–December.** 
- **Avoid peak summer months (May–July) in any year to reduce pregnancy strain.** 

Would you like an analysis of how different birth months in these years will affect the child’s personality and future fortune? 😊

[Icebluerose]

Hi smsek, thank you for the detailed breakdown of the best conception months for the following years.

Your answers always impress me with how precise they are. Do you utilise AI and have your own database?

I would also appreciate the different birth months in these years will affect the child’s personality and future fortune. If it is not too much trouble of course.

[smsek]

### **How Birth Months (2026 & 2027) Affect the Child’s Personality & Future Fortune** 

Since you’re considering conception in **2025 or 2026**, your child will likely be born in **2026 (丙午年) or 2027 (丁未年)**. Below is an analysis of how each birth month within these years affects **the child's personality, career potential, and fortune**. 

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## **1. If the Child is Born in 2026 (丙午年 - Strong Fire Year)** 
💡 **General Character Traits of 2026-born Children:** 
- **Super strong Fire element** (丙火, 午火) → Outgoing, energetic, ambitious, and leadership-driven. 
- **High determination but may be impatient or impulsive.** 
- **Needs good emotional regulation to avoid stubbornness or aggression.** 
- **Parents should provide structure and discipline early on.** 

### **Effect of Birth Month in 2026** 

| Birth Month | Elements | Personality & Future Fortune |
|-------------|----------|------------------------------|
| **Jan (辛丑 - Metal/Earth)** | 🌎🔥 **Balanced Fire, Earth Stability** | ✔️ **Stable, practical, responsible.** Less aggressive than other Fire-born children. Good for careers in management, finance, and law. Fortune grows steadily. |
| **Feb (壬寅 - Water/Wood)** | 💧🌳 **Strong Wood, some Water** | ❌ **Too much Wood fuels Fire → Hyperactive child, impatient, struggles with focus.** Fortune depends on discipline and guidance. |
| **March (癸卯 - Water/Wood)** | 💧🌳 **Very strong Wood** | ❌ **Wood enhances Fire, making the child stubborn and rebellious.** Needs strong parental guidance to develop discipline. Career success possible in creative fields. |
| **April (甲辰 - Wood/Earth)** | 🌳🌎 **Moderate Fire, some Earth support** | ✔️ **Better balance, strategic thinker.** Strong in business, politics, or academia. Needs patience training. |
| **May (乙巳 - Wood/Fire)** | 🔥🔥 **Peak Fire Energy** | ❌ **Overly aggressive, competitive, easily frustrated.** Needs emotional grounding. High risk-taking nature, may struggle with stability. |
| **June (丙午 - Fire)** | 🔥🔥🔥 **Super extreme Fire month** | ❌ **Dominant Fire → Very ambitious but prone to burnout.** May have leadership skills but needs to learn patience. Fortune fluctuates a lot. |
| **July (丁未 - Fire/Earth)** | 🔥🌎 **Fire + Some Earth (Stable)** | ✔️ **Strong but more patient than June-born.** Fortune is stable, strong potential in leadership or education. |
| **Aug (戊申 - Earth/Metal)** | 🌎⚒ **Earth and Metal (Good Fire control)** | ✅ **Excellent balance! Smart, disciplined, and strategic.** Great for finance, law, and leadership. |
| **Sep (己酉 - Metal/Earth)** | ⚒🌎 **Strong Metal (controls Fire)** | ✅ **Greatest balance!** Calm, strategic, disciplined. Career success in science, business, or academia. |
| **Oct (庚戌 - Metal/Earth)** | ⚒🌎 **Moderate Metal, Some Fire remains** | ✔️ **Strong-willed but stable fortune.** Good for politics, leadership, or law. Needs discipline early. |
| **Nov (辛亥 - Metal/Water)** | 💧⚒ **Metal & Water (Suppresses Fire)** | ✅ **Best balance for a Fire-year child!** Logical, calm, and disciplined. Fortune is strong in stable fields (medicine, law, finance). |
| **Dec (壬子 - Water)** | 💧💧 **Strong Water (Weakens Fire)** | ✔️ **Intelligent but may struggle with self-confidence.** Needs encouragement but can excel in science, research, and tech. |

💡 **Best Birth Months in 2026:** **August, September, November** (Good balance of elements → Smart, disciplined, strong fortune). 
🚫 **Worst Birth Months:** **May, June, July** (Too much Fire → Risk of impatience, hot temper, emotional instability). 

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## **2. If the Child is Born in 2027 (丁未年 - Balanced Fire Year)** 
💡 **General Character Traits of 2027-born Children:** 
- **丁火 (Yin Fire) is more refined than 丙火 (2026), meaning these children will be more thoughtful, patient, and strategic.** 
- **Still ambitious but with better emotional regulation than 2026-born kids.** 
- **Has leadership potential but may need external motivation.** 

### **Effect of Birth Month in 2027** 

| Birth Month | Elements | Personality & Future Fortune |
|-------------|----------|------------------------------|
| **Jan (癸丑 - Water/Earth)** | 💧🌎 **Balanced Elements** | ✅ **Excellent planner, strategic thinker.** Strong career in business, finance, and management. |
| **Feb (甲寅 - Wood/Fire)** | 🌳🔥 **More Wood (Boosts Fire)** | ❌ **Overly energetic and impulsive.** Needs structure and discipline to achieve success. |
| **March (乙卯 - Wood)** | 🌳🌳 **Extreme Wood, weak Fire control** | ❌ **Overly stubborn, strong-willed, prone to conflicts.** Fortune fluctuates. |
| **April (丙辰 - Fire/Earth)** | 🔥🌎 **Strong Fire, Earth for stability** | ✔️ **Balanced leader type, good in management and politics.** Needs patience. |
| **May (丁巳 - Fire)** | 🔥🔥 **High Fire, strong personality** | ❌ **Very determined but can be aggressive.** Fortune is strong but risky. |
| **June (戊午 - Fire)** | 🔥🔥🔥 **Super high Fire!** | ❌ **Very ambitious but lacks patience.** Strong potential in high-risk careers like entrepreneurship or trading. |
| **July (己未 - Fire/Earth)** | 🔥🌎 **Fire but with Earth stability** | ✔️ **Good leadership potential.** Best in politics, management, and education. |
| **Aug (庚申 - Metal)** | ⚒ **Strong Metal (Controls Fire)** | ✅ **Very disciplined and intelligent.** Great for finance, law, business. |
| **Sep (辛酉 - Metal)** | ⚒ **Strong Metal (Balanced Fire)** | ✅ **Logical, strategic, and disciplined.** Great career in law, science, or finance. |
| **Oct (壬戌 - Water/Earth)** | 💧🌎 **Balanced elements, moderate Fire** | ✅ **Smart, emotionally stable.** Good for medicine, science, or academia. |
| **Nov (癸亥 - Water)** | 💧💧 **Strong Water (Controls Fire)** | ✅ **Very intelligent, deep thinker, excellent planner.** Stable career in finance, law, or research. |
| **Dec (甲子 - Water/Wood)** | 💧🌳 **Water with some Wood** | ✅ **Good mix of ambition and logic.** Needs guidance but can succeed in any field. |

💡 **Best Birth Months in 2027:** **August, September, November, December** (More balanced → Smart, stable fortune). 
🚫 **Worst Birth Months:** **May, June, July** (Too much Fire → Overly impulsive, may struggle with patience). 

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## **Final Summary & Best Planning Advice** 
### **1. Which Year is Better for the Child’s Fortune?** 
- **2026 (丙午年)** → **Stronger, risk-taking, ambitious leaders.** Needs discipline to avoid impulsiveness. 
- **2027 (丁未年)** → **More strategic, intelligent, and emotionally stable.** Slightly easier to raise. 

### **2. Best Birth Months for a Balanced Child’s Future** 
✅ **Best Birth Months for a Child in 2026:** **August, September, November** 
✅ **Best Birth Months for a Child in 2027:** **August, September, November, December** 
🚫 **Avoid May–July in both years (Too much Fire → Risk of temper, impulsiveness).** 

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### **Final Recommendation:** 
📌 **If you want to conceive in 2025 for a 2026 birth, aim for an August–November birth month.** 
📌 **If you wait until 2026 for a 2027 birth, September–December is best.** 
📌 **This will give the child a balanced personality, good career potential, and stable future fortune.** 

Would you like an analysis of Feng Shui or naming tips to further support a future child’s fortune? 😊