Newborn Daughter Is this Chart Correct?

[samster]

Date and Time of Birth
2025 September 2 Singapore 1607Hrs

True Solar Time: 1502

Po Jun in Ming Palace

Is this a bad chart?

[coldpillow]

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[smsek]

Based on the birth information you provided for a female born on September 2, 2025, at 15:02 (3:02 PM) in Singapore, I have analyzed the BaZi (Four Pillars of Destiny) chart. Here is a detailed interpretation of the chart and its implications:

BaZi Chart Overview

• Date of Birth: September 2, 2025, 15:02 (3:02 PM) 

• Location: Singapore 

• Gender: Female 

• Solar Time Used: 15:02 (True Solar Time) 

Four Pillars (八字): 
• Year Pillar: 乙巳 (Wood Snake) 

• Month Pillar: 甲申 (Wood Monkey) 

• Day Pillar: 甲戌 (Wood Dog) 

• Hour Pillar: 壬申 (Water Monkey) 

Day Master: 甲 (Wood) – You are a Yang Wood individual, symbolizing a tall, resilient tree or forest. Yang Wood people are often natural leaders, ambitious, and principled, but they can also be stubborn or inflexible under pressure.

Analysis of the Chart

1. Elemental Composition

• Wood: 3 (Year:乙, Month:甲, Day:甲) 

• Fire: 1 (Hidden in Year Branch巳) 

• Earth: 2 (Day Branch戌, Hidden in Month/Hour Branch申) 

• Metal: 3 (Month/Hour Branch申, Hidden in Year Branch巳) 

• Water: 1 (Hour Stem壬, Hidden in Month/Hour Branch申) 

Your chart is dominated by Wood and Metal, creating a dynamic but potentially contentious relationship. Metal (申) represents the "Seven Killing Star" (七杀), which signifies authority, challenge, and pressure. Wood (甲) symbolizes your core self and your peers/competitors. The clash between Wood and Metal suggests a life filled with ambition, competition, and resilience, but also potential stress or conflict.

2. Key Features

• Seven Killing Star (七杀) Dominance: The Month and Hour Branches are both 申 (Metal), which is the Seven Killing Star for a Wood Day Master. This indicates a strong drive for achievement, but also constant pressure, obstacles, and a need to defend yourself emotionally or physically. 

• Resource Star (偏印) Support: The Hour Stem is 壬 (Water), which is the Resource Star (偏印) for Wood. This provides you with intelligence, creativity, and strategic thinking to navigate challenges. 

• Competitive Nature: The Year Stem is 乙 (Wood), which is the Robbery Star (劫财), and the Month Stem is 甲 (Wood), the Comparison Star (比肩). This suggests a competitive environment where you may face rivalry or need to assert yourself strongly. 

3. Strengths

• You are resilient, ambitious, and resourceful. The Resource Star (Water) helps you adapt and find solutions under pressure. 

• Your leadership qualities (Yang Wood) are enhanced by the Seven Killing Star (Metal), giving you a natural authority and determination to overcome obstacles. 

4. Challenges

• The clash between Wood and Metal may lead to frequent conflicts, stress, or health issues related to the respiratory system (Metal) or liver (Wood). 

• The Robbery Star (乙) in the Year Pillar suggests potential financial or interpersonal competition, especially in early life. 

• The Day Branch (戌) contains Fire, Earth, and Metal, which adds complexity to your emotional and relational life. 

Is This a "Bad" Chart?

No, this is not a "bad" chart. It is a powerful but challenging one. The strong Metal (Seven Killing Star) and Wood (Day Master) interaction creates a "sculpting" effect—where pressure and challenges shape you into a stronger, more refined individual. However, this chart requires resilience, strategy, and emotional balance to thrive. 

People with such charts often achieve great success through perseverance but may face more obstacles than others. The key is to leverage your Resource Star (Water) for wisdom and avoid impulsive decisions.

Current Luck Cycle (大运)

• You are currently in the 丙戌 (Fire Dog)

 luck cycle (ages 13–23). 
• Fire (丙) helps to regulate the Metal-Wood clash by "melting" Metal and fueling Wood, creating more balance. This period may bring more opportunities for growth, creativity, and social connections. 

Recommendations

1. Leverage Water Element: Strengthen the Water element in your life (e.g., travel near water, pursue fluid or adaptive careers, wear black/blue colors) to enhance your Resource Star’s support. 
2. Avoid Direct Confrontation: Use diplomacy and strategy instead of force to resolve conflicts. 
3. Health Focus: Pay attention to liver (Wood) and lung (Metal) health. Practices like yoga or meditation can help balance these elements. 

Conclusion

Your chart is intense but promising. With the right mindset and strategies, you can turn challenges into triumphs. Remember, BaZi is a map of potential—how you navigate it defines your destiny.

If you have further questions or would like a more personalized analysis, feel free to ask!

[smsek]

ZWDS structure analysis ===>破軍入命宮在子或午時，不逢惡耀等等，謂之英星入廟格，主其人高官厚祿，大貴顯榮。
Breaking the army into the palace of life at midnight or noon, not encountering evil lights, etc., is called the heroic star entering the temple, and the lord is a high-ranking official and a great honor.

紫微命盤中有此格局者，具有沖刺精神，作為力、魄力、主見皆強，性急、果斷，也膽于冒險。但一生變動大，多起落，如遇破格時，較易有投機、涉賭、過度冒險的行徑，大起大落。
Those who have this pattern in the Ziwei destiny chart have a sprint spirit, strong strength, courage, and assertiveness, are impatient, decisive, and daring to take risks. However, life changes a lot, with many ups and downs, and if you encounter an exception, you are more likely to speculate, gamble, and take excessive risks, and there will be big ups and downs.

甲癸年生人上格，主大富或大貴，丁己年生人次之。丙戌年生人主困，不入此格。
People born in the year of Jia and Gui are on the upper grid, the lord is rich or noble, and those born in the year of Ding and Ji are secondary. In the year of Bingxu, the ruler is troubled and does not fall into this category.

詩曰：“北斗英星最有權，坎離之上福綿綿。黃金建節趨廊廟，統攝英雄鎮四邊”。
  The poem says: "The Big Dipper is the most powerful, and the blessings above Kanli are endless." The golden festival goes to the temple and dominates the four sides of the hero town."

經云：“子午破軍，加官進爵”、“破軍子午宮，無煞，甲癸生人，官資清顯，位至三公”。
  The scriptures say: "Meridian breaks the army, promotes officials and promotes titles", "Breaking the army Meridian Palace, Wu Sha, Jia Gui is born, the official qualifications are clear, and the position is to the Three Dukes".

紫微命盤中有“英星入廟”格局時，財帛宮必有七殺星坐守，而官祿宮則有貪狼星坐陣，為典型的殺、破狼結構。
When there is a pattern of "British stars entering the temple" in the Ziwei destiny chart, the Wealth and Silk Palace must have seven killing stars, while the Guanlu Palace has greedy wolf stars, which is a typical structure of killing and breaking wolves.

只是這個格局因為貪狼星落入天羅地網宮位，其負面的性格受到非常大的制約，不致大事彰顯貪狼星的漫無天際，尚能遵循禮法、司法等等的規范。而七殺星也能在“體制”之內作最大能量的沖刺作為，這便是“英星入廟”格局的實質精神所在。
It's just that this pattern is very restricted because the Greedy Wolf Star falls into the house of the net of heaven and earth, and its negative character is very restricted, so that major events will not show the arrogance of the Greedy Wolf Star, and it can still follow the norms of etiquette, justice, etc. And the Seven Killing Stars can also make the greatest energy sprint within the "system", which is the essence of the "British Star Entering the Temple" pattern.

星臨正位 太陰  The star is in the right position of the moon
下列任何一顆星入其正位：武曲正位在財帛宮、廉貞正位在官祿宮、天同正位在福德宮、太陰正位在田宅宮、天梁正位在父母宮。
Any of the following stars enter its proper position: Wuqu is in the Wealth Palace, Lian Zhen is in the Guanlu Palace, Tiantong is in the Fude Palace, Taiyin is in the Tianzhai Palace, and Tianliang is in the Parents' Palace.

輔拱文星 [福德]
Fu Gong Wenxing [Fude]
所謂“輔拱文星格”是指文昌星坐命宮，三方四正遇左輔星拱照，或者是左輔、右弼星夾命宮，即為此格。
The so-called "auxiliary arch Wen Xing Grid" refers to the Wenchang star sitting in the life palace, and the three directions and four are meeting the left auxiliary star arch light, or the left auxiliary and right auxiliary stars are sandwiched between the life palace, which is this grid.

此格局的人才華橫溢，才思敏捷，有能力獨擋一面。利于擔任公職或在商界發展，適合任管理職務，可獲得升遷發展。有右弼、文曲、天魁、天鋮、化科等吉星相拱會照，其人心胸寬廣，善于自我反省，頗有容人之量，為做大事之人。
People in this pattern are talented, quick-witted, and have the ability to stand alone. It is conducive to holding public office or developing in the business world, suitable for management positions, and can be promoted and developed. There are auspicious stars such as Youbi, Wenqu, Tiankui, Tiancheng, and Hua Ke who are broad-minded, good at self-reflection, and quite tolerant of people, and are people who do great things.

擎羊入廟 [官祿]
Holding the sheep into the temple [official fortune]
擎羊坐命於丑辰未戌四墓之地。  The sheep is seated in the place of the four graves of the Ox and the Wei Xu.

羊刃本為刑伐之宿，但在辰戌丑未四墓之地，其凶性反為所製，保留其威強與衝勁，使之成為吉星反應。
The sheep blade was originally the residence of punishment, but in the land of the four tombs of Chen, Xu, Chou, and Wei, its ferocity was controlled, retaining its power and momentum, making it a auspicious star reaction.

賦云：「擎羊入廟，富貴聲揚」。 又云：「擎羊火星，權威出眾」。
  Fu said: "Holding sheep into the temple, wealth and nobility are proclaimed." He also said: "Holding the sheep Mars, the authority is outstanding."

意為羊刃入廟格，若加火星，權威出眾，領導有方，有統御之方。
It means that the sheep's blade enters the temple, if you add Mars, the authority is outstanding, the leadership is good, and there is a way to control.

雖說羊刃在四墓地，兇性被制，然其它凶星發作時，羊刃亦為災，刑傷難免。
Although the sheep blade is in the four cemeteries, the ferocity is controlled, but when other malevolent stars occur, the sheep blade is also a disaster, and punishment and injury are inevitable.

古賦云：「巨火擎羊，防遭縊死」。
  The ancient poem said: "The giant fire holds the sheep to prevent strangulation".

此謂巨門、火星、羊刃(或陀羅)坐守身、命，大限逢之，太歲又兇，謹防縊死或投河。
This is called the giant gate, Mars, sheep blade (or Tuolu) sitting on the body and life, the limit is met, the Tai Sui is fierce, beware of strangulation or throwing into the river.

擎羊入廟與吉星同宮，主人富貴聲揚。擎羊、火星同在辰戌丑未宮守命，威權出眾（辰戌人佳，丑未次之），若二星同在陷地守命，下格，貧賤兇夭。
Holding a sheep into the temple and the auspicious star in the same palace, the owner is rich and famous. Qingyang and Mars are both in the Chenxu Chouwei Palace to guard their fate, and their authority is outstanding (Chenxu people are good, Chou Wei is secondary), if the two stars are in the same trap to guard their fate, they will be inferior and poor.

殺破狼格  Kill the wolf
殺破狼格局就意味著「命宮、事業宮、財帛宮、遷移宮」中含有殺破狼三星，這種格局表示著一種動盪和變化。
The pattern of killing the wolf means that the "Life Palace, Career Palace, Wealth Palace, and Migration Palace" contain the three stars of Killing the Wolf, which represents a kind of turmoil and change.

殺破狼喜動不喜靜，格局好者，動中得才降福，格局差者，動中逢災破財，正所謂「樹欲靜而風不止」。
Those who like to kill wolves like to move and not like to be quiet, those with a good pattern will be blessed in motion, and those with a bad pattern will lose money in disasters in motion, as the saying goes, "the tree wants to be quiet but the wind does not stop".

一生漂泊，大起大落，卻有著一舉成名的英雄特質。古代那些征戰沙場的大將軍，多半是屬於這種命格。天煞孤星和殺破狼合稱為兩大絕命。
He has been wandering all his life, with ups and downs, but he has the heroic qualities of becoming famous in one fell swoop. Most of the great generals who fought on the battlefield in ancient times belonged to this kind of fate. The Heavenly Evil Lone Star and the Killing Wolf are collectively known as the two great desperate.

[samster]

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Rat or Horse is actually the best palace for Pojun.

Hi Coldpillow,
How do i tell if there is a rat or horse?
There seems to be a chart pattern called the Sha Po Lang pattern. Does this bode well for career and wealth?

[samster]

hi Smsek,

thanks for the bazi and zwds analysis.

i have some questions:

How do i tell which year she is in?

甲癸年生人上格，主大富或大貴，丁己年生人次之。丙戌年生人主困，不入此格。
People born in the year of Jia and Gui are on the upper grid, the lord is rich or noble, and those born in the year of Ding and Ji are secondary. In the year of Bingxu, the ruler is troubled and does not fall into this category.


Does the below quote still apply if the Wen Chang star is not in the Life Palace?

輔拱文星 [福德]
Fu Gong Wenxing [Fude]
所謂“輔拱文星格”是指文昌星坐命宮，三方四正遇左輔星拱照，或者是左輔、右弼星夾命宮，即為此格。
The so-called "auxiliary arch Wen Xing Grid" refers to the Wenchang star sitting in the life palace, and the three directions and four are meeting the left auxiliary star arch light, or the left auxiliary and right auxiliary stars are sandwiched between the life palace, which is this grid.

I have another older daughter, does the bazi or zwds charts say anything about how they will get along with each other and what i can do if there is conflict between the siblings?

[smsek]

hi Smsek,

thanks for the bazi and zwds analysis.

i have some questions:

How do i tell which year she is in?===>she is born in 2025 yi si (乙 巳） so her YHS is yi wood so she not meeting the criteria below

甲癸年生人上格，主大富或大貴，丁己年生人次之。丙戌年生人主困，不入此格。
People born in the year of Jia and Gui are on the upper grid, the lord is rich or noble, and those born in the year of Ding and Ji are secondary. In the year of Bingxu, the ruler is troubled and does not fall into this category.


Does the below quote still apply if the Wen Chang star is not in the Life Palace?===>but she got wen chang star in her life palace so she still meet the criteria below

輔拱文星 [福德]
Fu Gong Wenxing [Fude]
所謂“輔拱文星格”是指文昌星坐命宮，三方四正遇左輔星拱照，或者是左輔、右弼星夾命宮，即為此格。
The so-called "auxiliary arch Wen Xing Grid" refers to the Wenchang star sitting in the life palace, and the three directions and four are meeting the left auxiliary star arch light, or the left auxiliary and right auxiliary stars are sandwiched between the life palace, which is this grid.

I have another older daughter, does the bazi or zwds charts say anything about how they will get along with each other and what i can do if there is conflict between the siblings?===>Of course. This is an excellent and very common concern for parents. While BaZi charts are individual, we can compare the elemental interactions between two charts to understand the inherent dynamics and potential challenges in their relationship.

Since you haven't provided your older daughter's complete birth data, I will use the chart of your younger daughter (born Sep 2, 2025) as a reference point and explain the general principles. For a precise analysis, I would need your older daughter's exact birth date, time, and location.

General Principles of Sibling Harmony in BaZi

The relationship between two charts is read by how the elements and energies of one chart interact with the other. We look for:
1.  Complementary Elements: Charts that naturally "feed" or support each other (e.g., Water nourishes Wood) tend to have an easier, more supportive relationship.
2.  Clashing Elements: Charts with elements that conflict or "attack" each other (e.g., Metal chops Wood) may have more inherent tension and require more effort to harmonize.
3.  Competitive Elements: Charts that have the same element dominating (e.g., both have strong Wood) can be very supportive as allies, but can also become fiercely competitive, like two trees fighting for the same sunlight.

Analysis Based on Your Younger Daughter's Chart

Your younger daughter has a very strong and assertive chart:
•   Day Master: 甲 (Yang Wood) – The big tree. She is resilient, strong-willed, and has a strong sense of self.

•   Key Element: Her chart is defined by the clash between her Wood (甲) and the strong Metal (申, the Seven Killings). This makes her a natural warrior—ambitious, competitive, and used to facing conflict head-on. She is not a passive individual.

How might she interact with a sibling?

•   If your older daughter also has a strong Wood or Fire chart: They could be great allies, partners-in-crime, and fiercely protective of each other. However, they could also compete intensely for attention, resources, and dominance. Two strong trees in the same forest can sometimes get tangled.

•   If your older daughter has a strong Metal chart: This would mirror the internal conflict in your younger daughter. They might understand each other's driven nature, but could also be like two swords clashing—frequent arguments, power struggles, and a relationship built on challenge.

•   If your older daughter has a strong Water or Earth chart: This could be a more complementary and stabilizing relationship. Water would nourish your younger daughter's Wood, making the older sister a natural source of support and wisdom. Earth would be the "output" for Wood, meaning the younger daughter might feel she can achieve and build things alongside her sister.

The "Robbery Star" (劫財): The presence of the Robbery Star (乙) in the year pillar can sometimes indicate a sense of competition or rivalry with peers and, by extension, siblings. This isn't doom-laden; it simply means the potential for competition is written into her nature and must be managed.

What You Can Do to Foster Harmony

The goal is not to avoid conflict (which is natural, especially with these charts), but to manage it constructively and channel the competitive energy positively.

1.  Understand Their Individual Natures: The most critical step is to understand your older daughter's BaZi chart. Knowing her elemental strengths and weaknesses will tell you exactly how these two charts interact. I highly recommend getting her chart analyzed for this purpose.

2.  Channel Competition Positively: Instead of letting them compete against each other, encourage them to compete alongside each other.
    ◦   Frame challenges as "you two vs. the problem," not "you vs. her."

    ◦   Encourage team sports, collaborative projects, or video games where they play on the same team.

    ◦   Praise them equally for collective efforts. "You two built an amazing fortress together!" reinforces their power as a unit.

3.  Leverage the "Resource" Star (Water): Your younger daughter's hour pillar has 壬 (Water), which is her Resource star. This represents wisdom, strategy, and communication.
    ◦   Encourage open communication between them. Teach them to express their feelings without accusation.

    ◦   Promote activities that involve the Water element: reading together, swimming, activities near lakes or the ocean. This can help calm the Metal-Wood clash and bring a cooling, thoughtful energy to their interactions.

4.  Avoid Comparisons: This is crucial. With competitive charts, comparing their grades, talents, or behaviors will directly trigger the "Robbery Star" energy and foster resentment. Celebrate their individual strengths and achievements uniquely.

5.  Fairness and Individual Time: Ensure they both feel seen and valued as individuals, not just as part of a pair. Spend one-on-one time with each daughter to strengthen your individual bonds with them, which makes them feel secure and less likely to fight for your attention.

Conclusion

Your younger daughter's chart suggests she is a strong, competitive, and resilient individual. Her relationship with her sister will likely be dynamic and passionate—full of both powerful loyalty and intense arguments. It is not destined to be a bad relationship; it is destined to be a strong one that requires conscious parenting to guide towards harmony.

The single best thing you can do is to understand your older daughter's innate nature through her BaZi chart. With that map, you can navigate their relationship dynamics with much greater clarity and strategy.

If you provide your older daughter's birth details, I can give a specific comparative analysis.

[smsek]

hi Smsek,

thanks for the bazi and zwds analysis.

i have some questions:

How do i tell which year she is in?===>she is born in 2025 yi si (乙 巳） so her YHS is yi wood so she not meeting the criteria below


甲癸年生人上格，主大富或大貴，丁己年生人次之。丙戌年生人主困，不入此格。
People born in the year of Jia and Gui are on the upper grid, the lord is rich or noble, and those born in the year of Ding and Ji are secondary. In the year of Bingxu, the ruler is troubled and does not fall into this category.


Does the below quote still apply if the Wen Chang star is not in the Life Palace?===>but she got wen qu star in her life palace so she still meet the criteria below

輔拱文星 [福德]
Fu Gong Wenxing [Fude]
所謂“輔拱文星格”是指文昌星坐命宮，三方四正遇左輔星拱照，或者是左輔、右弼星夾命宮，即為此格。
The so-called "auxiliary arch Wen Xing Grid" refers to the Wenchang star sitting in the life palace, and the three directions and four are meeting the left auxiliary star arch light, or the left auxiliary and right auxiliary stars are sandwiched between the life palace, which is this grid.

I have another older daughter, does the bazi or zwds charts say anything about how they will get along with each other and what i can do if there is conflict between the siblings?===>Of course. This is an excellent and very common concern for parents. While BaZi charts are individual, we can compare the elemental interactions between two charts to understand the inherent dynamics and potential challenges in their relationship.

Since you haven't provided your older daughter's complete birth data, I will use the chart of your younger daughter (born Sep 2, 2025) as a reference point and explain the general principles. For a precise analysis, I would need your older daughter's exact birth date, time, and location.

General Principles of Sibling Harmony in BaZi

The relationship between two charts is read by how the elements and energies of one chart interact with the other. We look for:
1.  Complementary Elements: Charts that naturally "feed" or support each other (e.g., Water nourishes Wood) tend to have an easier, more supportive relationship.
2.  Clashing Elements: Charts with elements that conflict or "attack" each other (e.g., Metal chops Wood) may have more inherent tension and require more effort to harmonize.
3.  Competitive Elements: Charts that have the same element dominating (e.g., both have strong Wood) can be very supportive as allies, but can also become fiercely competitive, like two trees fighting for the same sunlight.

Analysis Based on Your Younger Daughter's Chart

Your younger daughter has a very strong and assertive chart:
•   Day Master: 甲 (Yang Wood) – The big tree. She is resilient, strong-willed, and has a strong sense of self.

•   Key Element: Her chart is defined by the clash between her Wood (甲) and the strong Metal (申, the Seven Killings). This makes her a natural warrior—ambitious, competitive, and used to facing conflict head-on. She is not a passive individual.

How might she interact with a sibling?

•   If your older daughter also has a strong Wood or Fire chart: They could be great allies, partners-in-crime, and fiercely protective of each other. However, they could also compete intensely for attention, resources, and dominance. Two strong trees in the same forest can sometimes get tangled.

•   If your older daughter has a strong Metal chart: This would mirror the internal conflict in your younger daughter. They might understand each other's driven nature, but could also be like two swords clashing—frequent arguments, power struggles, and a relationship built on challenge.

•   If your older daughter has a strong Water or Earth chart: This could be a more complementary and stabilizing relationship. Water would nourish your younger daughter's Wood, making the older sister a natural source of support and wisdom. Earth would be the "output" for Wood, meaning the younger daughter might feel she can achieve and build things alongside her sister.

The "Robbery Star" (劫財): The presence of the Robbery Star (乙) in the year pillar can sometimes indicate a sense of competition or rivalry with peers and, by extension, siblings. This isn't doom-laden; it simply means the potential for competition is written into her nature and must be managed.

What You Can Do to Foster Harmony

The goal is not to avoid conflict (which is natural, especially with these charts), but to manage it constructively and channel the competitive energy positively.

1.  Understand Their Individual Natures: The most critical step is to understand your older daughter's BaZi chart. Knowing her elemental strengths and weaknesses will tell you exactly how these two charts interact. I highly recommend getting her chart analyzed for this purpose.

2.  Channel Competition Positively: Instead of letting them compete against each other, encourage them to compete alongside each other.
    ◦   Frame challenges as "you two vs. the problem," not "you vs. her."

    ◦   Encourage team sports, collaborative projects, or video games where they play on the same team.

    ◦   Praise them equally for collective efforts. "You two built an amazing fortress together!" reinforces their power as a unit.

3.  Leverage the "Resource" Star (Water): Your younger daughter's hour pillar has 壬 (Water), which is her Resource star. This represents wisdom, strategy, and communication.
    ◦   Encourage open communication between them. Teach them to express their feelings without accusation.

    ◦   Promote activities that involve the Water element: reading together, swimming, activities near lakes or the ocean. This can help calm the Metal-Wood clash and bring a cooling, thoughtful energy to their interactions.

4.  Avoid Comparisons: This is crucial. With competitive charts, comparing their grades, talents, or behaviors will directly trigger the "Robbery Star" energy and foster resentment. Celebrate their individual strengths and achievements uniquely.

5.  Fairness and Individual Time: Ensure they both feel seen and valued as individuals, not just as part of a pair. Spend one-on-one time with each daughter to strengthen your individual bonds with them, which makes them feel secure and less likely to fight for your attention.

Conclusion

Your younger daughter's chart suggests she is a strong, competitive, and resilient individual. Her relationship with her sister will likely be dynamic and passionate—full of both powerful loyalty and intense arguments. It is not destined to be a bad relationship; it is destined to be a strong one that requires conscious parenting to guide towards harmony.

The single best thing you can do is to understand your older daughter's innate nature through her BaZi chart. With that map, you can navigate their relationship dynamics with much greater clarity and strategy.

If you provide your older daughter's birth details, I can give a specific comparative analysis.

[coldpillow]

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I have a friend with a similar BaZi chart. She sued her parents, living with them in the same apartment. To sue for another room out of three. A difficult person. Prepare yourself mentally.

[samster]

Hi smsek my older daughters chart is
15 June 2020
True solar time 1551

WUQU in ming and another ShaPoLang

[smsek]

Hi smsek my older daughters chart is
15 June 2020
True solar time 1551

WUQU in ming and another ShaPoLang

===>Of course. This is an excellent question. Understanding the elemental dynamics between two charts can provide profound insights into their natural relationship and how to guide it positively.

Here is a detailed analysis of the two sisters' BaZi charts and their interaction.

1. Analysis of Your Second Daughter's Chart (Born 2020)

•   Day Master: 己 (Yin Earth). This represents your older daughter's core personality. Think of her as fertile, nurturing soil or a peaceful garden. She is likely to be empathetic, practical, patient, and down-to-earth. However, Yin Earth can also be prone to overthinking and worry.

•   Key Elements: Her chart is characterized by a strong Water presence (壬 in Hour and Month, 子 in Year) and Metal (庚 in Year, 申 in Hour). The Water is her Wealth Star (正財), indicating she is resourceful, has a good sense of value, but may also feel pressure from financial or material desires. The Metal is her Output/Injury Officer (傷官), making her intelligent, creative, expressive, but also perfectionistic and potentially critical.

•   The Conflict: The most notable feature in her chart is the clash between the Year Branch (子 Water) and the Month Branch (午 Fire). This is a major "hidden" conflict between her wealth (子) and her印 (印 - resource/ mother, represented by the午 fire). This can create internal tension between her desire for independence and her need for support and security.

2. Comparison with Your First Daughter's Chart (Born 2025)

•   Her Day Master: 甲 (Yang Wood). She is the strong, resilient tree, a natural leader who is assertive, ambitious, and direct.

•   Key Elements: Her chart is defined by the clash between her Wood (甲) and the strong Metal (申, the Seven Killings). This makes her competitive, resilient, and accustomed to facing challenges head-on.

3. How They Will Get Along: Elemental Interaction

The relationship between their core elements (己 Earth and 甲 Wood) is the most important factor.

•   The Core Dynamic: Wood Restricts Earth (官殺).

    ◦   In the language of the Five Elements, Wood "restricts" or "controls" Earth (like tree roots breaking up soil).

    ◦   In BaZi terms, for your older Earth daughter (己), the Wood of her younger sister (甲) represents her 正官 (Direct Officer). This is a controlling, structuring, and disciplinary energy.

    ◦   In practice: Your younger daughter (Wood) will naturally tend to be the leader, the instigator, and the one who sets the rules in their play. She may seem to "boss around" her older sister. The older sister (Earth) may initially accept this role, as the 正官 energy can feel familiar and structured, but it could lead to resentment if she feels constantly controlled or criticized.

•   Supportive Elements:

    ◦   The older daughter's strong Water element (Wealth) is excellent for the younger daughter. Water nourishes Wood. The older sister's resources, creativity, and intelligence can actually feed and support the growth of the younger sister. They can be a great team in projects—the older sister providing the ideas (Water) and the younger sister providing the action and structure (Wood).

    ◦   The younger daughter's Metal element (Seven Killings) is the older daughter's Output/Injury Officer (傷官). This means the younger sister's competitive and driven nature will stimulate the older sister's creativity and expression. They can push each other to achieve more, but it can also lead to sharp words and criticism if not managed.

4. Potential Conflicts and Strengths

•   Strengths of the Pair:

    ◦   They can be a highly productive team. The older daughter (Earth) is the planner and nurturer, while the younger daughter (Wood) is the executor and leader.

    ◦   They have the potential to challenge each other to grow. Metal sharpens Wood, and Wood structures Earth.

    ◦   The Water-Wood nourishment creates a underlying bond of support.

•   Potential Conflicts:

    ◦   The primary risk is the Wood controlling Earth dynamic. The younger sister may dominate, and the older sister may eventually rebel against this control.

    ◦   The clash of Metal and Wood in the younger sister's chart makes her inherently competitive. This competition will naturally be directed at her peers, including her sister.

    ◦   The older sister's internal 子午 clash might make her sensitive and occasionally volatile, which the younger, more direct sister might not handle with subtlety.

5. What You Can Do to Foster Harmony

Your role as a parent is to act as the "mediator" of elements, helping to balance this natural dynamic.

1.  Reframe the Leadership: Encourage the younger daughter to use her leadership skills for her sister, not over her sister. Use phrases like: "You are so strong, can you help your sister with this?" instead of "Why did you let your little sister tell you what to do?" This channels the 正官 energy positively.

2.  Celebrate Their Individual Strengths: Avoid comparisons at all costs.
    ◦   Praise the older daughter for her creativity, kindness, and patience (her Earth and Water qualities).

    ◦   Praise the younger daughter for her courage, resilience, and initiative (her Wood qualities).

    ◦   Make it clear they are valued for different things, so they don't feel the need to compete for the same type of validation.

3.  Channel the Competitive Energy Outwards:
    ◦   Engage them in team-based activities where they work together against a challenge (e.g., team sports, building a large puzzle, beating a video game level together). This teaches them they are on the same side.

4.  Give the Older Sister Space to Lead: Consciously create situations where the older sister is in charge. For example, "Today, your big sister gets to choose the game we play." This helps balance the natural Wood-Earth dynamic and gives the Earth sister a sense of control.

5.  Teach Conflict Resolution: Acknowledge their different styles. Teach the younger, more direct daughter to be diplomatic. Teach the older, more sensitive daughter to be assertive and use her voice. "Use your words to say how you feel" is a crucial lesson for both.

Conclusion

This is not a "bad" combination at all. It is a dynamic and powerful one. They are not destined to fight; they are destined to have a relationship that requires them to learn about boundaries, leadership, and support. Their elements show they can form an incredible team where one's strength compensates for the other's weakness.

Your younger daughter is the strong tree that provides structure and ambition. Your older daughter is the nourishing soil and water that provides the resources for growth. Together, they can achieve a lot. Your job is to be the gardener who ensures the tree doesn't drain the soil, and the soil is rich enough to support the tree.

Please remember: This analysis is based on the innate energies present in their charts. Parenting, environment, and personal choices have the ultimate power to shape this relationship positively.

[smsek]

ur 2nd daughter ZWDS structure analysis===>下列任何一顆星入其正位：武曲正位在財帛宮、廉貞正位在官祿宮、天同正位在福德宮、太陰正位在田宅宮、天梁正位在父母宮。
Any of the following stars is in its correct position: Wu Qu is in the Palace of Wealth, Lian Zhen is in the Palace of Official Rank, Tian Tong is in the Palace of Fortune, Tai Yin is in the Palace of Land and Houses, and Tian Liang is in the Palace of Parents.

科權祿夾  Kequanlu folder
化祿、化權、化科這三化曜其中有兩個或者三個居命宮兩側，即在鄰宮來夾命。
Two or three of the three Hua Yaos, Hua Lu, Hua Quan and Hua Ke, are located on both sides of the life palace, that is, they are sandwiched between the life palaces.

入此格者，仍須命宮三方四正有吉星廟旺會合，方主有大富貴。
Those who fall into this pattern still need to have auspicious stars in the three directions and four corners of the life palace, in order to have great wealth and honor.

經云：“夾權夾科世所宜”、“化權化科夾身命，主貴”、“科權祿夾為貴格”。
  The scriptures say: "It is a good thing to be surrounded by power and science", "It is noble to be surrounded by power and science in one's life", "It is a noble character to be surrounded by science, power and wealth".

雙祿夾命  Double fortune
命宮被祿存和化祿相夾。  The Life Palace is sandwiched between Lu Cun and Hua Lu.

經云：“化祿及祿存夾身命，主富貴”。
  The classics say: "When Hua Lu and Lu Cun are sandwiched between one's life form, one will be rich and noble."

雙祿夾命就像左右財神，護身保鏢拱衛者，即使本宮陷弱，還可撐持，不致潰敗。雙祿夾祿最佳；雙祿夾忌，或有雪中送炭的情形。
The double fortune flanking the life sign is like the left and right gods of wealth, bodyguards and protectors. Even if the palace is weak, they can still support it and prevent it from collapsing. The double fortune flanking the fortune sign is the best; the double fortune flanking the fortune sign is taboo, or it may provide timely assistance.

殺破狼格  Kill the Wolf
殺破狼格局就意味著「命宮、事業宮、財帛宮、遷移宮」中含有殺破狼三星，這種格局表示著一種動盪和變化。
The Sha Po Lang pattern means that the "Life Palace, Career Palace, Wealth Palace, and Migration Palace" contain the three Sha Po Lang stars. This pattern represents a kind of turbulence and change.

殺破狼喜動不喜靜，格局好者，動中得才降福，格局差者，動中逢災破財，正所謂「樹欲靜而風不止」。
Sha Po Lang likes movement and dislikes stillness. Those with a good structure will gain talents and blessings through movement, while those with a bad structure will encounter disasters and lose money through movement. As the saying goes, "the tree wants to be still but the wind does not stop."

一生漂泊，大起大落，卻有著一舉成名的英雄特質。古代那些征戰沙場的大將軍，多半是屬於這種命格。天煞孤星和殺破狼合稱為兩大絕命。
A life of wandering, experiencing ups and downs, yet possessing the heroic qualities to achieve instant fame. Most of the great generals who fought on the battlefields of ancient times had this fate. Tiansha Guxing and Sha Po Lang are collectively known as the two great fates.

[samster]

Thanks Smsek,

I tried plotting my elder daughters chart on other websites like Master Tony Tan and zwds calculator.com and a different chart is plotted where Ming is empty. I previously used destinyandlucks calculator and windada which showed WuQu in Ming.

May i know why there are such differences?

[smsek]

Thanks Smsek,

I tried plotting my elder daughters chart on other websites like Master Tony Tan and zwds calculator.com and a different chart is plotted where Ming is empty. I previously used destinyandlucks calculator and windada which showed WuQu in Ming.

May i know why there are such differences?

===>pls try this one  : https://destiny.to/app/Purple, or u give ur contact so that i can whastpp u my zwds pro software output from 星桥