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Offline duesouth

Liu Yao terminologies
« on: October 01, 2025, 11:35:55 PM »
@Random88,

Re: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sixlinesdivination/
This subReddit group appears to share a common terminology e.g. Significator (用神, Yòngshén). Would you happen to know if there is a source (i.e. book, author or teacher) from where/whom they get their terminology?

Thanks.

Offline Random88

Re: Liu Yao terminologies
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2025, 10:40:06 AM »
@Random88,

Re: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sixlinesdivination/
This subReddit group appears to share a common terminology e.g. Significator (用神, Yòngshén). Would you happen to know if there is a source (i.e. book, author or teacher) from where/whom they get their terminology?

Thanks.

Yea, although there are some differences, Host instead of Self etc, but they do explain why and it seems good reasons, although I like Self too.
I don't want to write too much or ask right now, the good old idea of "if it works well, don't mess with it", and so far it has been great, awesome terminology and the details provided can be very useful, but the basic concepts will soon be covered and I'm very curious where they will go next.

In my humble view, some of the details in there are awesome. The more info about the lines between Self/Host and Other/Correposnding for example is very new, for me at least and seems very valid. They have been mention in other places, of course, but not for reading, more for setting I think. So does other stuff.
But no idea, currently, what material its connected to or what happens when the basic terminology is covered.
I'm very curious where it will go(live examples or maybe book or something?hopefully something that is easy to access)..



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Re: Liu Yao terminologies
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2025, 09:36:43 AM »
"Significator" for Yòngshén?  That's the first time I heard this term.  Sounds an interesting term, although longer to say that the original Chinese word.

I am writing an English course on Liu Yao, and this is one of the few terms that I don't translate, so it's just Yongshen  ;D in the course manual.
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Offline duesouth

Re: Liu Yao terminologies
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2025, 11:27:20 PM »
@JLim (Darma W)

I just Google searched: "significator" is (1) the planet in an astrological horary chart that signifies the inquirer or the subject of the question, or (2) a card chosen to represent the inquirer in a tarot reading. Appears to be adopted by some Liu Yao practitioners  :).

Exciting to hear that you're working on a LiuYao course!

Cheers.

Offline Random88

Re: Liu Yao terminologies
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2025, 11:26:31 AM »
"Significator" for Yòngshén?  That's the first time I heard this term.  Sounds an interesting term, although longer to say that the original Chinese word.

I am writing an English course on Liu Yao, and this is one of the few terms that I don't translate, so it's just Yongshen  ;D in the course manual.

That is always a great idea, in my humble view. Pinyin + the character and no one has to wonder what that is, some great books out there have been made unreadable because of translating terms in a silly way I think.

Great to hear about a course, more good Liu Yao materials out there is always a good idea, in my humble view.


Offline duesouth

Re: Liu Yao terminologies
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2025, 01:10:44 AM »
Hi all,

Just in passing, The I Ching Divination – Complete and Restored (增删卜易, Zengshan Buyi) book mentioned by @Random88 in the Liu Yao/Wen Wang Gua Resources in non-Chinese languages thread also uses the translation of “Significator” for Yòngshén.

Regards.