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Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2025, 06:36:26 PM »
no one speaks in contradiction with you! any opinion I have argued. rob wealth or ren cannot steal 2 ding s just like shen lp- shen cannot destroy 2 si! this year was the year of the fire snake-it went excellently for me! unexpectedly well-after so many disastrous years! that is also my fault because I was too obedient and obedient I used my intuition what mind I have and how much I worked - I certainly wouldn't have ended up in a desperate situation! that's what I need if I only listened to what I was told! my fault!

wish you all the best @Ragdoll

Of course you do, you contradict me and you contradict others when you tell us that we're completely wrong in our posts, and you try to impose your own point of view about what happened for you and unsolicited comments on other topics started by other people, except that it's not Bazi Mingli, it's obvious. That's also why @eveereads doesn't want to come back on this forum and discuss with you.

From my experience with my brother, who has Ji earth in the heavenly stems with a Jia Daymaster and a Peer in his HS, one Peer and Robwealth can steal money when wealth is revealed in the HS without being combined/removed/clashed by another stronger heavenly stem, and I know that he has lost a lot of money in his wealth luck.

It's the same for a branch that combines, destroys or clashes with wealth can cause money to be lost, particularly in Bazi charts of sibling rivalry, such as that of Tori Spelling, yours, and my brother's, which are glaring examples of how wealth is detrimental to this type of Bazi chart. I am not the one saying this; Professor Lily Chung and Jerry King also discuss it most eloquently in their books.

I already had this experience of losing money in 2023, but it was less serious than for you because I had the Si-You combination in my bazi, which reduced the violence of the clash between Gui Mao and Ding You, and also because You was in my earthly branches and Gui in my hour, clashed my Rob Wealth, and I still had regular income even though it had decreased.

Think about everything @eveereads  has told you on this topic, and she's right: you're not ready to learn Bazi Mingli or Mangpai. Have a safe journey.

@Ragdoll so you know, in case you didn't know. 10 years is a lot for a lp? in 10 years even if the favorable luck is very good there will be 3 to 4 very bad years. again if a lp has unfavorable luck 10 years will be 3 to 4 good years.

what school of thought do you represent?

@Ragdoll ok
to be what you want to be!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2025, 06:39:30 PM by nin99 »

Online Ragdoll

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2025, 06:39:10 PM »
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Finally, I learned something interesting elsewhere in the Mangpai, that heavenly stems are weaker than earthly branches, which are stronger at retaining wealth. This may explain why it is not good for wealth to be revealed, especially without roots to retain it, as it can be taken away by unexpected expenses, which can lead to debt or poverty, as in the case of Tori Spelling, who lost a lot of money.

We can therefore understand that wealth is better protected in the earthly branches and in the hidden earthly trunks. And even better if it is hidden in the hour or the day. 


From what I know concerning wealth ---> Stems = wealth is seen. Branches = wealth is hidden yet stable. Wealth tomb/storage (Chen-Xu-Chou-Wei) = lots of wealth.

But I still don't grasp the meaning of clashing a tomb vs clashing a storage.

Tori shares the same birthday with this person: https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=Acu%C3%B1a%2C+Jason&y=1973&m=5&d=16&h=19%3A15&g=1&l=10.23&src=1&rr=AA

A very successful entertainer with dwarfism, Jason Acuna. He has a wealth storage in hour branch.

@coldpillow

I agree with that, at least that's what Lily Chung and Jerry King said in their books on Bazi.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2025, 06:45:41 PM by Ragdoll »

Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2025, 07:55:25 PM »
rich sucffesful.bussines woman

bing yin wood ren.    ji
xu.   mao        shen. .si

another case pavel durov,he s money in chou or metal tomb or storage this ie for you @Ragdoll  tomb=storage!same think!chou is  fully clash and control.by xu fire tomb and strong robwealth pillars bing wu.

bing ding jia jia
wu.  chou xu zi

A tomb is consider open or make the big when is clash=full control!!

Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2025, 08:11:31 PM »

Offline ren

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2025, 12:43:56 AM »
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But I still don't grasp the meaning of clashing a tomb vs clashing a storage.
Tomb, Storage, Graveyard, all are the same. The context used will change somewhat.

Generally, an element gets entombed when it appears with its tomb / storage.
The earth tomb is said to “Get” or “Possess” the entombed element and its image / action in the chart.

A tomb is closed when it meets a Liu He – six combination. The contents of the tomb are in “Storage” and are not available.
A tomb is opened by a clash, harm, or punishment. The contents of the tomb become available.

ren

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Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2025, 12:50:58 AM »
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Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2025, 06:05:37 PM »
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As I currently read things, Tori Spelling natal chart indicate money issue. If you read interviews with Tori and of her mother, she never learned finance discipline and had uncontrollable spending habits from a very young age. The mother did not give Tori a large inheritance as she knew Tori would blow it.

IMHO, the issues with her chart is the Ren Ding combination and the Ding Gui clash.
The Zi, Zi, Chou combination enclosing Si, is also problematic. The Zi Chou and Si involve the husband. So the husband and wife have money issues. I believe since the main issue is in the stems – money is on display, lavish lifestyle and spending (partying, real estate etc.).

In my opinion, Jason Acuña most likely also leads a lavish lifestyle. But he has 7K - Xu (wealth tomb) in the hour. The wealth tomb is open (due/2 Ding Gui clash). He also had very favorable LP’s during his initial exposure to money making opportunities. Thus, even though the party animal lifestyle, he made some smart moves and business investments.

ren


@ren
this chart how yiu read
xin xin gui ding
mao.si mao you
rich or poor?

and this
gui wu jia
si.  chen wu

Online coldpillow

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2025, 05:42:11 AM »
These are the closest looking charts to nin99:

- https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=Trikonis%2C+Gus&h=00%3A30&d=1&m=01&y=1938&l=-74.0&src=1&g=-5&ds=&s=&rr=A
- https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=Jacobson%2C+Colton&h=09%3A00&d=17&m=12&y=1997&l=-96.48&src=1&g=-6&ds=&s=&rr=A

Gus Trikonis was once married to Goldie Hawn and eventually divorced due to stark difference in social status ---> filmink.com.au/unsung-auteurs-gus-trikonis/

Colton Jacobson was a Youtube artist, possibly carried by Bieber hype back then. When I read his last published interview (Feb 2013), I notice a few peculiar similarities to nin99 ---> coltonjacobson.com/press
 
I guess he's now working for a global law firm. There's no official confirmation other than a Linkedin profile with his name and photo.

Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2025, 06:27:29 AM »
These are the closest looking charts to nin99:

- https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=Trikonis%2C+Gus&h=00%3A30&d=1&m=01&y=1938&l=-74.0&src=1&g=-5&ds=&s=&rr=A
- https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&n=Jacobson%2C+Colton&h=09%3A00&d=17&m=12&y=1997&l=-96.48&src=1&g=-6&ds=&s=&rr=A

Gus Trikonis was once married to Goldie Hawn and eventually divorced due to stark difference in social status ---> filmink.com.au/unsung-auteurs-gus-trikonis/

Colton Jacobson was a Youtube artist, possibly carried by Bieber hype back then. When I read his last published interview (Feb 2013), I notice a few peculiar similarities to nin99 ---> coltonjacobson.com/press
 
I guess he's now working for a global law firm. There's no official confirmation other than a Linkedin profile with his name and photo.


@coldpillow thank you for show your intresting!
but is chou no punishment zi mao
mao is also my eg.
i was when wei come like 2003 when had aaa at my svhool degree or 2015 when make big big money have good time,maybe because mao is protected by zi
i look again at this chart
gui xin ding
you hai si
he can t use fire because ding is remove by xin,si by hai-also notice that every chart that have nobleman like my chart is si and mao when they meet a clash or harm in order to bring succes they brings just chaos in life.

thank you again.cm
think when zi is clash is good for me

Online coldpillow

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2025, 07:23:29 AM »
I find it very peculiar that Colton is interested in medical field and business, just like nin99.

He eventually chose a law school to blend his multiple interests.

He's apparently working for a law firm that primarily focuses on the business side of health and life sciences.

Bazi interpretation aside, maybe nin99 should take an inspiration or two from Colton.

Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2025, 09:23:25 AM »
I find it very peculiar that Colton is interested in medical field and business, just like nin99.

He eventually chose a law school to blend his multiple interests.

He's apparently working for a law firm that primarily focuses on the business side of health and life sciences.

Bazi interpretation aside, maybe nin99 should take an inspiration or two from Colton.
thank you @coldpillow,i'm sorry i was born in this family.i never had the right to learn what i want in ji you lp.
wu shen lp i failed because shen zi chen formed strong water.strong water frame and the source of money is mao face chou-grid of the one born in 1997,so 2019 hai mao i was going to make a lot of money,hai mao=strong wood,shen zi chen arrive,so the strong body shen zi chen destroyed the source of money mao-hai.

2.how do you analyze the direction of a building stand with your back to the main door or face it and note the opposite direction.if i put an aquarium in sw and i had the apartment destroyed it is 2 3 or 9 5.s1 the era of 7 shows 9 5 se 3 shows 2 3.i think se 3 with 2 3.i think it's also a disastrous feng shui.



Online nin99

Re: Tori Spelling-bazi can lie?
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2025, 06:26:44 PM »
@coldpillow

why
yin. wood jia wu bing
hai. shen.      xu.  shen
the date on divorce

when see any annual pillar will go down easily
or thise date

geng wu ding jia
shen. shen chou shen

the dob when I was rob.
anyway 2025 as @JLim (Darma W) say meet an women re contact her 2 days before her birthday
her chart
bing yin wood ren ji
xu.   mao. shen   si

she told me that she not trust in me...judge me.not so happy life,my mother will die soon stage 4 bevause of shen,clash everyday with my father.
i never killed anyone just want to be free...next year enter in university to teach others medicine-it s a chance but not my way or choosen like before

@coldpillow
what you think about this person
bing geng bing
xu.     zi.     yin
he replace me after I helped him like he sabotage me.shouldn t help him.should fimd my true way.

not so great.
anyway @JLim (Darma W) Master ,Jlim told me that I will meet a young lady close to my age.it s not so great relation.it s work very hard with her.she judge and punish me.sad story of life!