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Quiz 18- Asking for Son’s near illness.
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:25:58 PM »
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Re: Quiz 18- Asking for Son’s near illness.
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2018, 09:39:28 AM »
ANSWER OF QUIZ


断曰:鬼变子孙,夭折之兆,幸子孙临旬空,近病即愈,恐其难过午年。
Duan said: ghost change to offspring, premature deathly omen, fortunate that Offspring facing Empty Days [Xun kong ], recent illness will heal at once, afraid to feel unwell on year Wu.
果在出空之日而愈。
Indeed when the day that Emptiness fulfilled then will be recovering.
辰年占卦,至午年痘症而死。
The divination made on Chen - earth year, when Wu year arrives pimple (smallpox) disease brought death ( of the Son ).
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动墓绝、化墓绝,须逢生旺;
When Changed [yao ] is in vanish or in tomb  [12 life stage ], wait the chance when regain strength and flourish [Wang qi phase ].
日月克、动爻克,最怕休囚。
When Month / day restrain, or changing yao subdue, be afraid mostly when being in rest [xiu ] or in prison [qiu ].
日月动爻冲克者,亦须看用神旺衰,旺相者,冲去克神之日而愈,衰弱者,生助克神之日而危。
When Month / day restrain by clashing a moving [ yao ] , watch also Useful God if is in flourishing qi phase, the clash [chong ] act to remove the subduing God, day is pointer of recovery. But when [Useful God is in wane qi phase ] giving strength to a subduing God then the day is pointer of danger.
散破无援脱气,忌摇元动仇兴。
When there is break loose [San Po ] then the Qi is draining without any support , be in fear by seeing  a primary  [ Yuan Shen !!!]  when moving make encouragement of an Enemy.
用神逢墓绝,及动而化墓、化绝,全看旺衰,用神旺者何须虑,用神衰者实堪忧。
When Useful God meeting vanish [jue ] or tomb [mu  ], and also changing and changed [yao ] are in tomb [mu  ], or in vanish [jue ], watch if are in flourishing or wane qi phase, if Useful God is in flourishing qi phase you need not worry, if Useful God is in wane qi phase truly must worry.
用神临散、遇破,及全无生扶、或脱气,此四者若无根蒂,少吉多凶。
When Useful God facing looseness [san ] by a break [po ] perhaps the Qi is draining , this 4th seems not have root to grow, the young’s luck is much in fear.
忌神动克用神,若有元神发动,许之有救,只恐仇神又动,当主凶危,宜于元神章内详之。
鬼持世,病虽轻而难疗。
When Fearful God [Ji Shen ] is moving can control Useful God, if there is a Yuan Shen that start mobilising [fa dong ] , allowing to rescue, only afraid Enemy God [Qiu Shen] when moving, acting as hosting terrible danger, suitable to read the details of chapter of Yong Shen.
此有两说:
There are two theories.
①自占病,官鬼持世,其病难痊,虽得子动,克去身边之鬼,目下虽愈,终不断根,不然,复生他病
When someone divines for illness, When Official / ghost holding Self Yao, then illness is difficult to recover , even if getting moving Offspring yao , by subduing to remove one’s body ghost, currently even recover, in the end not breaking the root cause, if so , will reborn this illness.
此之谓:病不离身,身不离药。
There is a saying : illness if not be away from body , then body is not away from medicine.
若官鬼持世,而临帝旺长生者,必得久远疾病。
If official ghost holding Self yao , and facing Prosperity peak[Di ] or flourish [Wang] qi phase or Birth [ Chang Sheng - 12 qi stage ], then one is faraway from disease.
②代占六亲之病,若见官鬼持世,乃忧郁之状,惟喜子孙发动,克去我之忧郁,即使用神衰弱,管许平安。
Making divination using 6 kin’s [ liu qin ] for illness, If official ghost holding Self yao, be worrying for this condition, only be happy when Offspring yao start moving  [fa dong ]. When there is a subdue [this means that ] my worries will disappear, even if Useful God is weak, is allowance to manage  as quiet  and safe.



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Re: Quiz 18- Asking for Son’s near illness.
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 04:24:29 PM »
Yes, I agree with you.  But I think in classic books that I have read, the Day Stem is generally mentioned.  With the Day Stem, we will be able to calculate which Branch is empty and which Six Animals are assigned for each line.  May I suggest to Tientai to show the Day Stem?

.... with some  way ( indirectly ) I mention Day stem ...!!
If one read the Nayin: 27 of the Day .... then can extract the Day stem easily ...
Is the number 7 ... so is Geng -  Yang Metal .
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Re: Quiz 18- Asking for Son’s near illness.
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2018, 09:43:44 AM »
.... with some  way ( indirectly ) I mention Day stem ...!!
If one read the Nayin: 27 of the Day .... then can extract the Day stem easily ...
Is the number 7 ... so is Geng -  Yang Metal .
Oh, I see... I don't use Nayin for Liu Yao.  Could you mention the Day Stem directly?  :)
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Re: Quiz 18- Asking for Son’s near illness.
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2022, 10:12:01 PM »
This case is a bit weird. I understand that the divination is done in the year of Chen (dragon) and that the Son recovers from the illness when Wu fire comes out of the void. Wu fire destroys/controls the Metal Officer (the illness)

Does anyone understand why in the wu year (two years later supposedly) it says that the Son died? the earth branch that once saved him destroys him two years later? I don't get it....

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果在出空之日而愈。
Indeed when the day that Emptiness fulfilled then will be recovering.

辰年占卦,至午年痘症而死。
The divination made on Chen - earth year, when Wu year arrives pimple (smallpox) disease brought death ( of the Son ).
« Last Edit: June 30, 2022, 10:15:02 PM by Sacrar »

 

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