Quiz 1 - Case study Lesson..( Evaluate your deciphering )

[Tientai ✝️]

Quiz -- Case study Lesson .. from Wild Crane Studies..
占出外经商贸易，财喜何如？
Going to another place as trade dealer, how happy will be with money (wealth) ?

午月 丙辰日 53(旬空：子丑)，
Month: Wu, Day: Bing/Chen, Void: Zi & Chou

 Constancy-Bone - 32        Enthusiasm-Harmonious-Outer - 16
6 Animals/Hiding Spirit
 Dragon                      Wife    Xu   - -   O       Wife    Xu   - -
 Tortoise                    Officer Shen - -          Officer Shen - -
 Tiger                         Child   Wu    -             Child   Wu    - 
 Serpent                    Officer You - >> S      Sibling Mao  - -
 Qi Lin   Sibling Yin    Parent  Hai - >>         Child   Si   - -
 Bird                           Wife    Chou - -          Wife    Wei  - -

                                                                         6 Match
 ... Dear Liu yao members

Try to evaluate your knowledge by desiphering on this Case ....
After some time I will give the answer from Wild Crane's Old man book ...

[Tientai ✝️]

ANSWER OF QUIZ---
世爻酉金，化卯相冲，乃反吟之卦。
Shi/Self yao is You - metal (EB), the changed yao is Mao - wood (EB) that Clash ( Chong ) Shi/Self yao, so is in Fan Yin in the Gua (Lower Trigram)

幸辰日合之，冲中逢合，又得戌土为财，暗动生世，虽则反复不常，却有财利。
(Shi/Self yao is You - metal ) with Chen -  earth Day brance make an alliance (Liu He) , during Clash there is alliance, also getting Xu - earth (6th unmoving yao ) as Money/wealth, secretly moving and giving birth to Shi/self yao, although this contrary (by Clash), nevertheless there is wealth profit.

果然此人去而复反者三次，尽在中途发货。
As expected this man was go and return for 3 times (traveling) , almost in midway (he thought) to send out goods (to dispatch) .

前曰：“爻动化冲，如逢仇敌。
Former (text) says: when a yao moves and changes to create a Clash (Chong), is as one come across to meet an enemy.

”乃是化回头之克也。
Even if (a yao of 1st hexagram) change into a yao (of 2nd Hexagram) that return to subdue ( the 1st one)

化卯冲世而不克世，又得辰日冲动戌财生世，所以为吉。
Even The changed yao is Mao - wood (EB) that Clash ( Chong ) cannot subdue Shi/Self yao , also obtaining the Chen -  earth Day brance there is an urge of Xu - earth (6th yao) to support (by giving birth by secret move) of Shi/self yao, as (final) result Good fortune....

[JLim (Darma W)]

Tientai, thank you for a simple but well-explained case!

I would like to add what the text does not mention.
-  Actually the You-Mao clash is a good one because it clashes 忌神 Ji Shen away.  Ji Shen is the Annoying God for this query.
-  The Others Line (Wealth) located on the Sixth Line coming with Qing Long (Dragon) means that the good wealth is the one from a distant place.  Indeed the text talked about goods dispatch.
-  Wealth from a nearby place in this hexagram is represented by Chou (first line).  But it's in Kong Wang coming with Zhu Que (Bird), which means all talks about money but ended in vain.

[Gmuli]

Seems nice to add that Xu is moving(active) line, because of the clash with Day Branch.

BTW if someone needs real date to input in some calculator, nearest one that gives this result is 9 June 2015.
With same day pillar, animals and void will be the same, and void branch is useful for strength... If we know this we can not use the date as well, but for starting people can be useful.

[JLim (Darma W)]

Seems nice to add that Xu is moving(active) line, because of the clash with Day Branch.

Yes, Tientai did write it below:

... Earth Day branch there is an urge of Xu - earth (6th yao) to support (by giving birth by secret move) of Shi/self yao....

BTW if someone needs real date to input in some calculator, nearest one that gives this result is 9 June 2015.

Yes, thank you!

Tientai, your original post uses the Times New Roman font.  I don't know about others, but it's a bit hard to read on my laptop.  If you wouldn't mind, could you use the bigger default font?

[Tientai ✝️]

Dear Jlim. ..

I would like to add what the text does not mention.

... yes very interesting idea to add more on ancient example ... !!
By adding  this way is much clearer the image of taken Hexagram ...!!
....
Thanks to gmuli also ...
( An unmoving yao when Clashed with Day Branch is Secretly Moving )....

[JLim (Darma W)]

Hi Tientai, your translation is correct, but the classic text is not consistent in these two sentences:

”乃是化回头之克也。
Even if (a yao of 1st hexagram) change into a yao (of 2nd Hexagram) that return to subdue ( the 1st one)

The text saying Mao subdues/overcomes You is incorrect. 

化卯冲世而不克世，又得辰日冲动戌财生世，所以为吉。
Even The changed yao is Mao - wood (EB) that Clash ( Chong ) cannot subdue Shi/Self yao

This is correct, because now it says that Mao cannot subdue Self yao or You.

[Tientai ✝️]

 Let's resume ...

The man made three round trips.
He made money selling his goods at another unexpected country. 
In the ancient text, it says that if a line moves and turns into an element which strikes back at itself, it's like meeting an enemy. 

But it happens when there is clashing to seem just as in magnetic repulsion.. if we accept Shi/Self moving Yao as stable part just as in our case You metal then Mao wood is repulsed by You metal. If a line moves and turns into a character which strikes back (..by repulsion), it means that there will be constant movement  Back and forth. 

If one ask about the stock market, the expected value will be reached because the trend fluctuates back and forth. 

If asking about business, it will go back and forth.

If asking about negotiation, one will negotiate back and forth.

[Dao]

Hi Tientai, Jlim, All,

Thank you very much for translation Classic, case study and explanations!

Grateful

 

[Dao]

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[duesouth]

Hi all,

FYI. My translation of the case study using the 1691AD version of Zengshan Buyi (ZSBY) (see ZSBY-5 pdf in https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1995.0):

[Ex.20-54. T/X to T/E]
又如午月丙辰日。占出外貿易財喜何如。得恒之豫
Another example: Wu(h) month, Bing Chen day. Divining about going away for commercial trade, how much wealth would be enjoyed. Obtained Consistency [T/X], then Delight [T/E].
才   戌   丶丶應         
鬼   申   丶丶         
子   午   丶         
鬼   酉金   ○世   兄弟   卯木   
父母   亥水   ○   子孫   巳火   
財   丑   丶丶         

Thunder-Wind Consistency [T/X]   Thunder-Earth Delight [T/E]
Wife-Wealth   Xu earth   丶丶 Object   Wife-Wealth   Xu earth   丶丶
Officer-Ghost   Shen metal   丶丶   Officer-Ghost   Shen metal   丶丶
Son-Daughter   Wu(h) fire   丶   Son-Daughter   Wu(h) fire   丶
Officer-Ghost   You metal   ○ Subject   Brother-Sister   Mao wood   丶丶
Father-Mother   Hai water   ○   Son-Daughter   Si fire   丶丶
Wife-Wealth   Chou earth   丶丶   Wife-Wealth   Wei earth   丶丶

世爻酉金。化卯相沖。乃反吟之卦。幸辰日合之。沖中逢合。又得戌土爲財。暗動生世。雖則反復不常。却有財利。
Subject line You metal, changes to Mao, clashing. It is a Fanyin gua. Fortunately, Chen day combines [with You]. Clash meeting combine. Also obtain Xu earth as wealth. [Because of Chen day,] it is Secretly Moving to produce Subject. Although coming-and-going is irregular, going will gain wealth and profit.

果此人去而復反者三。盡在中途發貨。前曰爻動化沖。如逢仇敵。乃是化囘頭之剋也。
Result: The man came and went three times. At the midway point, he sent out the goods. Previously said that line moving changing to clash is like meeting an enemy. Similar to changing to turn back to counter.

此卦世爻酉金化卯。沖世而不剋世又得辰日沖動戌財生世。所以爲吉。
In this gua, Subject line You metal changes to Mao. [Mao] clashes Subject but not counter Subject. Also obtain Chen day clashing moving Xu wealth to produce Subject. Therefore, it is auspicious.