When Ji Shen is sitting in the Subject line... (with Corona examples)

[Sacrar]

After some queries about the coronavirus, where the enemy entity (Ji Shen) is seated in the line of the Subject, representing either the country for which it is asked or representing the subject himself who wants to know if he is infected, I had the following doubts:

• 1.) That Offsprings is devitalizing/dominating/damaging (Ke) the Ji Shen, and also dominating the own Self/Shi, is it good, is it bad, or is it good and bad at the same time?
• 2.) Does the seasonal Qi strength of the Self line indicate the Subject/person Qi or the Ji Shen's Qi?
• 3.) How do we measure the force of the Subject's seasonal Qi in the case that it shows only the force of the enemy entity? Or in the case that it shows the Qi force of the Subject/person, how do we measure the force of the enemy entity?

Some examples of actual queries where we see Official (Ji Shen) sitting on the Self/Shi line and active or changed Offsprings lines dominating (Ke) Ji Shen and therefore also damaging (potentially) the Self/Shi line.

1.) How will Argentina go through this coronavirus epidemic?

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/13,1,0,0,0,1,1,6,9,2020-03-27,19:00

I understand that if you ask about a country, the Self line represents the nation, let us assume that fact for the purpose of clarifying the doubts raised, even though there may be disagreement about it.

2.) How will the situation in Italy evolve?

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/18,0,1,0,1,0,1,8,4,2020-03-23,19:00

3.) Here I asked for myself, for a prognosis of a cold I had, and I was afraid it was covid-19. Offsprings clashed Subject/Self line, holding Officer.

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/52,1,0,1,0,1,0,8,8,2020-03-12,19:26

These paradoxes are extensible to any other question, where we want or it is convenient that the hostile entities to be weakened (Ji Shen and Chou Shen), but it is sitting in the Self/Shi line.

[Tientai ✝️]

3.) Here I asked for myself, for a prognosis of a cold I had, and I was afraid it was covid-19. Offsprings clashed Subject/Self line, holding Officer.

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/52,1,0,1,0,1,0,8,8,2020-03-12,19:26
These paradoxes are extensible to any other question, where we want or it is convenient that the hostile entities to be weakened (Ji Shen and Chou Shen), but it is sitting in the Self/Shi line.

Hi, @Sacrar  ..
I Guess this acute condition although is annoying isn't so dangerous ..!!
You catched a cold from taking by the mouth something "cold" (perhaps cold water, ice drinking .. etc ) .. and irritate your lungs and trachea  (making cough ).. and in progress elevate some fever ..!!
Perhaps you don't need any medicine .. after some proper care you will recover from this condition .. maybe after 10 days (from the day of casting)
I wish you already get better and be in good health ...
Best regards

[Sacrar]

Hi, @Sacrar  ..
I Guess this acute condition although is annoying isn't so dangerous ..!!
You catched a cold from taking by the mouth something "cold" (perhaps cold water, ice drinking .. etc ) .. and irritate your lungs and trachea  (making cough ).. and in progress elevate some fever ..!!
Perhaps you don't need any medicine .. after some proper care you will recover from this condition .. maybe after 10 days (from the day of casting)
I wish you already get better and be in good health ...
Best regards

Thanks for the advice, Tientai. I've already let the cold go; it was just mild symptoms, especially phlegm and coughing. I think it was a cold draught from not being warm, sudden temperature changes maybe. I didn't have a fever and I just needed paracetamol and cough syrup 

On the questions raised could you share your point of view?

1.) That Offsprings is devitalizing/dominating/damaging (Ke) the Ji Shen, and also dominating the own Self/Shi, is it good, is it bad, or is it good and bad at the same time?
2.) Does the seasonal Qi strength of the Self line indicate the Subject/person Qi or the Ji Shen's Qi?
3.) How do we measure the force of the Subject's seasonal Qi in the case that it shows only the force of the enemy entity? Or in the case that it shows the Qi force of the Subject/person, how do we measure the force of the enemy entity?

Thanks you.

[JLim (Darma W)]

Hi Sacrar, you did the divination on Mar 12, and posted the topic on Mar 31.  That is more than 14 days, so obviously you were not infected by  Corona virus, thank God!

Here I asked for myself, for a prognosis of a cold I had, and I was afraid it was covid-19.

An alternative way to analyze is through the hexagram palace: covid-19 affects the lungs.  Your hexagram is neither Dui Metal nor Qian Metal.  The changed hexagram is Xun Wood, which only indicates cold or asthma.  Xun is also associated with other organs/illnesses, but irrelevant for your symptoms.
 
White Tiger (Bai Hu) is also Metal, and it's not with the Officer line.

From the line perspective, I understand the difficulty with analyzing the Self line.  Now, we must also look at the Chou Shen (Hostile God).  This is the God that supports the Ji Shen (Annoying God). 
1. Zi is weak by Month and Day
2. Zi is in Emptiness (Kong Wang)
3. Zi changes into Jue (Vanished) Qi phase. 
This is a line that cannot support the Ji Shen (Illness) at all. 

I remember seeing a Wild Crane classical book's case on illness that is posted by Tientai, where they also analyze the "source" of the Illness line.

One comment on the Self line = Day Branch sitting on the Sixth line:  You think about your illness day in and day out, constantly. 
BTW, was this the first divination for your cold symptoms?

Stay healthy!

[Sacrar]

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[JLim (Darma W)]

Sacrar, I would focus more on the first divination, because the question in your mind is essentially the same. 

There are some similarities, however, with the first hexagram:
It's Kun Palace changing to Zhen Palace, and the illness has no connection to White Tiger (Bai Hu).  No image of lungs having troubles.  Moreover, the Illness line is not supported by the Hostile God Zi Water, which is in Kong Wang (emptiness) and is entombed.  Finally, Zi changes to be overcome by Chou.

[Gmuli]

After some queries about the coronavirus, where the enemy entity (Ji Shen) is seated in the line of the Subject, representing either the country for which it is asked or representing the subject himself who wants to know if he is infected, I had the following doubts:

• 1.) That Offsprings is devitalizing/dominating/damaging (Ke) the Ji Shen, and also dominating the own Self/Shi, is it good, is it bad, or is it good and bad at the same time?
• 2.) Does the seasonal Qi strength of the Self line indicate the Subject/person Qi or the Ji Shen's Qi?
• 3.) How do we measure the force of the Subject's seasonal Qi in the case that it shows only the force of the enemy entity? Or in the case that it shows the Qi force of the Subject/person, how do we measure the force of the enemy entity?

Some examples of actual queries where we see Official (Ji Shen) sitting on the Self/Shi line and active or changed Offsprings lines dominating (Ke) Ji Shen and therefore also damaging (potentially) the Self/Shi line.

1.) How will Argentina go through this coronavirus epidemic?

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/13,1,0,0,0,1,1,6,9,2020-03-27,19:00

I understand that if you ask about a country, the Self line represents the nation, let us assume that fact for the purpose of clarifying the doubts raised, even though there may be disagreement about it.

2.) How will the situation in Italy evolve?

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/18,0,1,0,1,0,1,8,4,2020-03-23,19:00

3.) Here I asked for myself, for a prognosis of a cold I had, and I was afraid it was covid-19. Offsprings clashed Subject/Self line, holding Officer.

https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/52,1,0,1,0,1,0,8,8,2020-03-12,19:26

These paradoxes are extensible to any other question, where we want or it is convenient that the hostile entities to be weakened (Ji Shen and Chou Shen), but it is sitting in the Self/Shi line.

If you see you can't be neutral when asking a question with the calcs random number generator, use coins to make hexagram then input that in. can still read all the lines and while making it will get into more passive state and won't mess up the outcome.

That being said, Officer on self line when asked properly is bad for health in my experience. Then what weakens you will weaken the illness as well as you are the same line/representation now. But that is only if you are asking in somewhat neutral state. If you ask while being actively worried about something its very likely the Hexagram will reflect what you are worried about. At least in my experience.  And Officer on Self line, even if it isn't line 6, can just show that(you are thinking about illness).