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Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« on: April 02, 2018, 05:35:41 PM »
Today Divination about my Patient's illness (Name: Rhea - woman 37 years old) ..
First patient diagnosis visit ...
Chronic migraines ..
I'm going start treatment at least 10 days after

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Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
Year: Xu,  Month:Mao,    Day: Jia/Zi,     Empty days: Xu - Hai
Big Tribulation
- Wander Soul
Flesh-Zhen-Gua - 28
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 Tortoise              Wife    Wei  - - 
 Tiger                 Officer You   -   
 Serpent  Child   Wu   Parent  Hai   -  S
 Qi Lin                Officer You   -   
 Bird     Sibling Yin  Parent  Hai   -   
 Dragon                Wife    Chou - - O

                       Unstable                 

I present my analysis. ..
Yong Shen  4th Self yao Fu Shen Child Wu fire "Xiang " out of hidding due to Clash by the Zi of the day... and Kong wang of fei Shen of the same yao Hai water that is  weak Ji Shen .

Other 1st yao woman Chou earth facing Dragon is in trouble by month ... and bounds with Zi water EB... this woman consumes her Qi ... so she is exhausted ...
2nd yao is hidding Brother Yin Yuan shen that is in flourishing wang Qi phase .. on Kong wang of fei Shen of the same yao Hai water that is  weak Ji Shen ... Fushen and Feishen bound on a wood alliance that is Yuan Shen... moreover this yao facing Bird .. I can say that is Gall bladder inflammation disease..

Officer you metal Qiu shen is in prison 2nd and 5th yao facing Qi lin and Tiger .. Spleen /stomach congestion due to liver disorder.  ".. is good for Officer to be in Prison " disease is not noticable .. but in Autumn can be seen ... Lung or imunity involvement.

Solar month Chen earth is coming in few days  .. I think is not a good month to start therapy ..

I make a focus on Si fire Month that this supports Yong Shen and clashes the Parent Hai water long term in Kong wang ..

Unstable condition after therapy .. needs follow up for fixing this instability.

Any help is welcome  ..
Tientai
« Last Edit: April 02, 2018, 09:31:07 PM by Tientai »

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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 07:13:37 PM »
Dear Master @JLim, @Dao .. all ..

How you estimate my analysis ?
Could you offer any additional advice on my real case please ?..
It could be much appreciated. .

Best regards
Tientai


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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 11:57:54 AM »
... Fushen and Feishen bound on a wood alliance that is Yuan Shen...
Hi Tientai, yes Fourth line Fushen (hidden god) is out.  As for the above, I think you mean Fire alliance? 

can you rephrase the question you had in mind when you tossed the coins?  Or are you asking for a good date to start the treatment?  Or are you asking which treatment is good for Rhea?

And what time did you toss (your local time)? 

At this time, you haven't determined yet the cause of the migraines, am I right?  Has she had it since 2017?  Is money an issue for her to go for multiple treatments with you?

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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 01:29:09 PM »
Dear Jlim hi

... Fushen and Feishen bound on a wood alliance that is Yuan Shen...
1. I choose this bound of yin - Hai as "Liu He" that is for wood ...I think is correct. .!!

2. My asking is ... which treatment is good for Rhea?

3. I toss the coins (10 A.m local time)..

4.I was made the TCM rutine diagnosis without yet to differentiate the cause of migraines  ( .. so I am not influenced by which cause is this migraine  ) and next day I made divination ..

5. Migraines are chronic and in severe condition ..  since 6  years ...!!
Thanks for answering. ..
Tientai
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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2018, 11:52:47 AM »
Hi Tientai,

1) Yes, liver or gall bladder as the nature of disease fits with the divination, because the hexagram is 震 Zhen (Thunder) family.
2) From date selection perspective, today Xu day is actually a good day to start the treatment. 
3) Wu Fire is the Yong Shen to cure the disease, a therapy with moxibustion or other fire method may be helpful for her. 
4) This is not a serious disease, You as Illness Star is broken by the Month and weak by the Day. 
5) The only drawback may be her financial commitment for routine treatment visits.  Others line is money, weak by Month and Day, and it's overcome by Siblings Line Yin Tiger.

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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 08:18:22 AM »
Dear Master@JLim ..
From assisting in translation by PM .. Yes I have made a mistake translating. 断 as "abstain " !!
you corrected 斷 here means "decidedly". One Chinese character can have multiple meanings..
... I want to mention from quiz 18 ...
" ....金生子孙者,用针;
When metal produce offspring yao , abstain decidedly use Acupuncture ;
火持子孙者,用灸。
When fire holding offspring yao , abstain decidedly use Moxibustion (TCM) "
 
Offspring could give the nature of medicine  !! "TCM actions of treatments " .. isn't amazing ? ..
You are so kind and careful when give an expanation on any case ...
There is only one reason on my TCM diagnosis to have mistaken  !! ..
She reffered that long time ago had a bad feverish cold and Western Doctor prescribed Antibiotics. . Perhaps this is unresolved disease due to erroneous past cure ..!! .. that's why now she reacts as having a heat ( False  category syndromes ).. this can be healed by fire or heat ...!!
I use Liu Yao Gua only for dificult cases just as this .. now i feel how helpful is this tool don't making mistakes for so complicated medical cases .. what a piety don't know to use !!?

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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 05:17:30 PM »
Hi Tientai, it's been a month since you saw her the last time, I wonder if there is any update?

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Re: Real Case Inquiry: What is Rhea's treatment?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 11:16:04 PM »
Dear @JLim hi..

wanting to make a feedback from my Patient's start treatment. ..
I would like to say that even if the diagnosis is made she phoned me saying that she will come for treatments next months ahead ... not specified when ( ..probably she had money problems ...!! )

Hi Tientai,
5) The only drawback may be her financial commitment for routine treatment visits.  Others line is money, weak by Month and Day, and it's overcome by Siblings Line Yin Tiger.

... Dear Jlim you are right once more ..!!

Greatful
Tientai

 

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